Escape to the Movies: Predators
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Nice, I was planning on seeing this anyways later on this weekend. I love all the Predator movies and the Alien movies. When it comes to Sci-Fi B movies involving monsters/aliens and all out carage I try not to think about them to much. I know I'm not going to be seeing the next Shawshank Redemption, so I don't go looking for it.
An on technologically advanced tribal culture. Maybe the reason they are that way is because they realized long ago that violence is a natural state of mind for intelligent life forms and learned to embrace it fully and inpliment it into their society completely. when you learn to live with something and accept it to it's fullest maybe it is easier to move on and advance without being sidetracked. Or maybe it's because they are fucking aliens and we can't even begin to understand them... also it would have made a lame movie if the predators came to earth to beat bongo drums and cook organic granola bars whilst floricking in the woods.
EDIT: Also, I remember learning from some source that the next AVP movie will once again take place in space a hundred years or so after the first two installments. Back where it should be IMO, and in better accordance to the videogames.
An on technologically advanced tribal culture. Maybe the reason they are that way is because they realized long ago that violence is a natural state of mind for intelligent life forms and learned to embrace it fully and inpliment it into their society completely. when you learn to live with something and accept it to it's fullest maybe it is easier to move on and advance without being sidetracked. Or maybe it's because they are fucking aliens and we can't even begin to understand them... also it would have made a lame movie if the predators came to earth to beat bongo drums and cook organic granola bars whilst floricking in the woods.
EDIT: Also, I remember learning from some source that the next AVP movie will once again take place in space a hundred years or so after the first two installments. Back where it should be IMO, and in better accordance to the videogames.
I will go and see this, naturally but I do have one concern... the original Predator killed an entire squad of what were essentially super soldiers, yet the trailers for this film imply that a good chunk of the cast survive for a good while against MULTIPLE Predators... I mean one Predator is to much for a group of strong humans.
So what I ask is this: are these Predators weaker or different some how to explain why the cast isn't killed in seconds as they SHOULD be if they were against a group of original Predators, because that would mean they loose their menace if there is no reason.
So what I ask is this: are these Predators weaker or different some how to explain why the cast isn't killed in seconds as they SHOULD be if they were against a group of original Predators, because that would mean they loose their menace if there is no reason.
I think the fact that the Predator race has advanced techologically as far as intergalactic space travel while still living in a tribalist society demonstrates that their cultural development is so radically different from ours and therfore it stands to reason that their value system is also different. If there is one problem with aliens in most sci-fi media (at least as far as I've seen) is that they are distinctly human in their sensibilities, values and culture. If not particularly human, then a social/value set that we understand, i.e. warrior/hunter culture in Predator or the hive-like structure in Alien. The point is that the Predators' ways make sense to them, and they are probably just as baffled about apparent contradictions in our cultural development.MovieBob said:
I don't think that it's quite fair to equate the Predators' culture with redneck trophy hunters. It is demonstrated at several points during the Predator movies that they only hunt targets that can defend themselves and possibly fight back. They ignore unarmed humans and one even spares a pregnant woman in Predator 2. I don't believe that rednecks give creatures that wander into their crosshairs the same consideration.
As for the ultimate Predator movie, I think it would have to be set from the Predators point of view, without the human element. That way we can (hopefully) get to see how the Predators' society really works and what makes them tick. And hopefully there will be some awesome battle scenes along the way.
Bob, I enjoy your reviews and watch them every friday...but can we go one flippin week without your text book liberal agenda. I'm sorry there aren't any abortions and gay marriages in this movie, just let it go. PREDATOR- any organism that exists by preying upon other organisms. IE hunting
The best thing that Robert Rodriguez has ever done for the world is put Salma Hayek in a bikini and had her dance.
I drooled a little bit there...
I drooled a little bit there...
Maybe the reason the Predators are so technologically advanced... is because of they're civilization is based around primitive hunting and worshiping...
Quick everyone follow me into the jungle! If we start now maybe we can invent cloaking devices in just 40-60 years!
Quick everyone follow me into the jungle! If we start now maybe we can invent cloaking devices in just 40-60 years!
Whoops; so distracted by Salma that I forgot what I was going to say.
I always thought it was fairly obvious: Predators are a highly violent society, so to avoid killing one another wholesale for dominance, they have a ritual of bloodletting/rite of passage that establishes a young male's place in their society (the more dangerous the kill, the higher rank he would receive). I'm guessing that Humans probably are considered to be fairly dangerous, Aliens even moreso.
'Scar' in P2 was clearly older, a leader Predator, and- not coincidentally- had a full trophy-case: in fact, I think the genesis of AvP was directly due to the fact that there was an Alien skull at the very top of that trophy case.
The books are actually pretty interesting. Certainly the literary equivalent of popcorn, but an enjoyable read if you like the subject.
I always thought it was fairly obvious: Predators are a highly violent society, so to avoid killing one another wholesale for dominance, they have a ritual of bloodletting/rite of passage that establishes a young male's place in their society (the more dangerous the kill, the higher rank he would receive). I'm guessing that Humans probably are considered to be fairly dangerous, Aliens even moreso.
'Scar' in P2 was clearly older, a leader Predator, and- not coincidentally- had a full trophy-case: in fact, I think the genesis of AvP was directly due to the fact that there was an Alien skull at the very top of that trophy case.
The books are actually pretty interesting. Certainly the literary equivalent of popcorn, but an enjoyable read if you like the subject.
Wow, this sounds like exactly everything I hoped a new Predator movie would be, but never really expected to get.
If the Predators are truly a tribal hunter race then they probably have some kind of Shaman. I'll see it because Despicable Me seems great but I want to wait till the end of the month for that.
I have no complaints to see this movie: The Original starring nearly a cast made up of mostly Governors by now (Schwarzenegger, Ventura and Sonny Landham) is a feat all by itself, but Adrien Brody and Topher Grace, while nowhere equal in size, machismo or a strange concurrent of "ehh" movies definitely makes me want to go to see this.
In fact, Brody and Grace could punch me in the face and I'd apologize to them, that's how awesome of actors they are (I forgive you, Grace, for "Spider Man 3").
A good review, as always. Now if only I could convince my sister not to see Eclipse [sarcasm]"...Goody..."[/sarcasm]
In fact, Brody and Grace could punch me in the face and I'd apologize to them, that's how awesome of actors they are (I forgive you, Grace, for "Spider Man 3").
A good review, as always. Now if only I could convince my sister not to see Eclipse [sarcasm]"...Goody..."[/sarcasm]
And is it not fascinating that a society capable of interstellar travel has such a primitive and archaic ritual as part of their society? TV Tropes notwithstanding, the concept of a Proud Warrior Race and space travel just don't seem to mesh that well. You'd think cultures that still inextricably associate masculinity with the ability to kill something would've destroyed themselves by the time they had figured out nuclear fission.lwm3398 said:
Actually, have the movies ever shown a female Predator*? Maybe they're the ones doing science (and still being alive) while the guys are off playing space Nugent.
*I am perfectly aware that the species in question refers to itself as "yautja" (possible misspelling).