Escape to the Movies: Predators

[0megaZer0]

This review has just made me realized something about you Bob...

You're completely biased.

perhaps you do'nt realize or recognize this yourself, but all you care about in a movie is if it represents your own personal views correctly (and having some good action sequences and/or some artsy bs in it does'nt hurt).

What you want is a movie that basically turns society on its ass, something shocking that has a 'message' to send; something that proclaims how utterly shitty one aspect of society currently is by portraying it "realisticly" on screen. Like in district 9 where human/alien and/or animal rights/treatment involving kindness are shown to be nonexistant, or in watchmen where human nature is made out to be absolutely and ultimately violent with a tendancy to war eachother out of existance to the point that the only solution to this is to have us vent this tendancy at a common enemy. You want this same thing for the Predator series, except with hunting being the victim.

By that same token, you also by default dislike anything that represents a theme or message that you do not agree with, one that paints the world as all butterflys and rainbows, or anything remotely close to a 'religious concept' like following what a 'god' tells you just for the sake of it in Eli (I wonder what you think of 'Blues Brothers' by the way...) or abstinence in Twilight (do'nt get me wrong, I'm not saying that Twilight is good, but there are much more reasons to hate Twilight than the christian/mormon themes in it).


Wow Bob... I mean, maybe I'm just being unfair and this is something everyone does, but wow... I thought you were different...

 

[EchetusXe]

So now nobody alive today believes in marriage before sex? Get a fucking grip Bob. I haven't read the books or seen the first Twilight movie but it is pretty damn obvious to me that this Edward guy was a religious man when he was bitten, and believes that although he has lost his chance to get into heaven he should still live his life according to his beliefs and morals.

Your telling me that if you are inexplicably still alive in the year 2274 and by that time the moral brigade somehow convinces governments worldwide to ban violent games, that you are going to shrug your shoulders, get in line and say "hey, well now society has changed I will change my views too"?

Back to Predators and back to spot on reviews because it is a grade A B movie, if you catch my drift. More aliens and less cocking up classic fables and movies please (i.e. Robin Hood and Clash of the Titans).

Looking at the Expendables I'm thinking why isn't that cast in this movie? After all which is the more intriguing plot: kill foreigners because they are bad and nasty CIA men are helping them OR the elite fighters of Earth fight for survival in the jungles of the Predators own private planet? hmm, hmmm, I wonder?

 

[johnman]

Saving my money for Inception.
Nice review as always =D

[sub][sub][sub]Torrents for the WINNNN![/sub][/sub][/sub]

Quick heads up, remove the torrents part, I got suspended for mentioning those once.

I watched predator 2 a few eeks ago, it does feel as if there should have been another film between the two.

Thanks for the heads up (fixed it). But torrents aren't illegal, that's reason to get suspended now?

Its the whole piracy thing and the admins take a strong stance on it. Best to not take the risk

 

[GodKlown]

I saw the previews for this movie, and was genuinely excited by the prospect of this movie. I have been a little disappointed that the alien planet doesn't really look that "alien". That aside, it's about time someone do something to try and save the good name of the Predator franchise after that last AvP movie. Predators are always at their best when they are skinning and disemboweling people, not just aliens.

"Predators are like Ted Nugent in space"... best line I've heard all week! But Bob did have a good point about it not making a lot of sense for a race who has space travel to want to collect such trophies, unless they are Klingons or something. Maybe this sets up a prequel for the full backstory of the Predator race? Dear Raptor Jesus, keep Micheal Bay away from that!

 

[Blind Sight]

Hi MovieBob, could you stop ragging on Twilight, its flawed yes... not every single piece of literature is The Divine Comedy, if you hate anything enough you will find flaws because your looking for them.

You said yourself in the Harry Potter critique you did that any flaws pointed out would not change peoples minds over it (please correct whatever you said) and whether or not they would see it.

Aren't you technically pointing out flaws in his review, and thus making the same mistake he is? And I'm pointing out how that's flawed so that means that...*head explodes from paradox* (see what I'm trying to get at? There's no point in reviewing or commenting on anything if you believe it's about changing people's minds. It's not, it's about stating your own opinion through your own medium in anyway you see fit. Of course, you're welcome to critique that as well, just thought I'd point out the broken logic haha).

At least MovieBob offers up intelligent arguments for why it's bad, rather then just attacking it mindlessly.

I'm fully aware of the hypocrisy, I also said if you look at anything closely enough you can find faults in anything, saying that MovieBob has found an intelligent argument to why you should hate Twilight is flawed itself, I'll just go tell all my Twilight fan friends about this nugget of info Bob has realised, I'm sure they are just going hate the books now.

If I hated Chocolate Fondant's I could sit there for long enough and find a reason to ***** about it to others.

The previous statement is patently false, Chocolate Fondant is perfect and without flaw.

My whole point is that it's MovieBob's opinion, thus he's allowed to make any comment he sees fit, and asking him to stop ragging on it seems like a waste of both letters and time to me. Whatever, I'm one of those people who don't care when someone complains about something, as long as they've actually given some thought to it, as he has. It has nothing to do with changing other people's opinions, it has to do with his own thoughts on the Twilight franchise. Just like how his opinion isn't going to change Twilight fan's beliefs, your suggestion isn't going to have much pull, as it's HIS reviews, and he's free to do what he wants in them.

Feel free to respond to this in whatever you see fit, but after that I think this has gone far enough haha, I don't want to keep arguing about mundane details on my day off

 

[Captain Pancake]

My only complaint is how much they built up Fishburne's character, for him to only appear for about 20 minutes of film time. Other than that, your review about covers it. Nothing you'd see film snobs talking about, but something you and your mates can have heated, nerdy after movie discussion on.

 

[JokerCrowe]

Am I the only one who thinks Brody looks a lot like Bear Grylls, in this move? Which just makes it more awesome. : )

 

[baconfist]

Uh, no. That happens in every culture, it's just that in (for lack of a better word) "civilized" cultures it's done in other, subtle ways (or not so subtle as with the whole shooting your first deer example).

Here, I'll get you started with one great example: The whole "losing your virginity, notch on your belt" thing. Seems innocuous at first, and yet think about how much shit guys get as they get older and older for having not done it.

To think that "civilized" cultures have moved past the basic tropes of hunter/gatherer life is pure fallacy. All of our instincts and old tribal habits are still there, they've just been channeled and funneled into different directions. After all, beating your enemy's head open with a rock isn't exactly kosher these days

"Getting shit" can't really be compared with the rites of becoming a man that tribes today have.

No, and I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that while they've become subdued and not terribly overt, all of our tribal tendencies do still exist. Humans may have neat technology and fancy clothes, but we are animals at heart.

But that's the thing with Predators. Humankind has subdued these tribal tendencies over time, and considering Predators seem to be much more advanced than us (even though they are still, for some reason, vile, slimy monsters with fuckin' huge claws sticking out of their mouth and shit), shouldn't their tribal tendencies be more subdued than that of the modern societies on our planet?

I like to think that they are more advanced because they found a way to divert their genetic tendancies outwards rather then inwards. They don't hunt each other. Where as we still war with each other. Also you never see a Yautja(predator) female, so its safe to assume they are all back home running the show, I think its also safe to assume that the hunters may just be a type of elite warrior caste like a military force and not a true representation of the species as a whole.

 

[whycantibelinus]

I thought this movie was pretty damn good besides Adrian Brody's corny ass lines. It's totally the best Predator since the first one.

 

[TOGSolid]

Uh, no. That happens in every culture, it's just that in (for lack of a better word) "civilized" cultures it's done in other, subtle ways (or not so subtle as with the whole shooting your first deer example).

Here, I'll get you started with one great example: The whole "losing your virginity, notch on your belt" thing. Seems innocuous at first, and yet think about how much shit guys get as they get older and older for having not done it.

To think that "civilized" cultures have moved past the basic tropes of hunter/gatherer life is pure fallacy. All of our instincts and old tribal habits are still there, they've just been channeled and funneled into different directions. After all, beating your enemy's head open with a rock isn't exactly kosher these days

"Getting shit" can't really be compared with the rites of becoming a man that tribes today have.

No, and I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that while they've become subdued and not terribly overt, all of our tribal tendencies do still exist. Humans may have neat technology and fancy clothes, but we are animals at heart.

But that's the thing with Predators. Humankind has subdued these tribal tendencies over time, and considering Predators seem to be much more advanced than us (even though they are still, for some reason, vile, slimy monsters with fuckin' huge claws sticking out of their mouth and shit), shouldn't their tribal tendencies be more subdued than that of the modern societies on our planet?

But you're assuming they had the same development that we did culturally. I'd hate to veer further into nerd territory here, but think of the Krogan in Mass Effect 2. They're a warrior race that love to fight and have many tribal style rites, but they also have a science caste that considered it an honor to design new weapons for their warriors. Unless it's been covered in a canon book/comic (once again, I'm not a Predator junkie, I'm just having fun theorizing here), then for all we know the Predators may have something similar.

 

[Maxi-005]

Man, your thoughts about vegan predators are hilarious, but you have a point. Maybe these concrete predators are some kind of space mercenaries or space sect, which kills humans and sacriface their remains or something. Whatever, I think I'm going to give this movie a chance, since I watched only two first movies about predator(s)

 

[Ramzeltron]

It's so refreshing to actually have a good Predator movie after all those cheap cash-ins we had for all this time.

 

[Jumpingbean3]

So it wasn't actually bad? A remake of a movie that wasn't all that good to begin with was nearly as good as that movie?

I'm amazed.

Edit: And in relation to the seemingly-tribal yet technologically sophisticated predators, maybe the reason they hunt like they do is not for sport or to bring home a trophy (They don't eat the humans they kill, do they? That might be the reason), but because all of the predators we see are adolescent predators that are sent to kill whatever they can to prove their status as a "real man" back at the predators' home planet. Instead of trophy hunting because you need to prove to yourself that you're more manly than everyone else, you trophy hunt because of a traditional rite of passage all predators must go through.

I think I heard from someone that a Predator has to hunt in order to be recognized as an adult but I'm not sure.

 

[Jumpingbean3]

Hi MovieBob, could you stop ragging on Twilight, its flawed yes... not every single piece of literature is The Divine Comedy, if you hate anything enough you will find flaws because your looking for them.

You said yourself in the Harry Potter critique you did that any flaws pointed out would not change peoples minds over it (please correct whatever you said) and whether or not they would see it.

Aren't you technically pointing out flaws in his review, and thus making the same mistake he is? And I'm pointing out how that's flawed so that means that...*head explodes from paradox* (see what I'm trying to get at? There's no point in reviewing or commenting on anything if you believe it's about changing people's minds. It's not, it's about stating your own opinion through your own medium in anyway you see fit. Of course, you're welcome to critique that as well, just thought I'd point out the broken logic haha).

At least MovieBob offers up intelligent arguments for why it's bad, rather then just attacking it mindlessly.

I'm fully aware of the hypocrisy, I also said if you look at anything closely enough you can find faults in anything, saying that MovieBob has found an intelligent argument to why you should hate Twilight is flawed itself, I'll just go tell all my Twilight fan friends about this nugget of info Bob has realised, I'm sure they are just going hate the books now.

If I hated Chocolate Fondant's I could sit there for long enough and find a reason to ***** about it to others.

The previous statement is patently false, Chocolate Fondant is perfect and without flaw.

He's not saying YOU should hate it he's simply explaining why HE hates it. Besides the guy's a critic it's his job to nitpick just about everything and I suppose he looked back on his Eclipse review and found a problem that he didn't include in the review and wanted to include it.

 

[blankedboy]

So it wasn't actually bad? A remake of a movie that wasn't all that good to begin with was nearly as good as that movie?

Not a remake, a sequel.

Even though I'm completely sick of this show, I might have to see this sometime.

 

[cjalw1]

I went to the movies today, loved it....

was not expecting tf2 the movie 4 of my friends all came to the same conclusion.

main hero:scout
IDF sniper: sniper
soldier: the guy who's shoot did not deploy. He tried to rocket jump to stop his fall. that
is what happened to his legs.
The doctor:That Medic is a Spy!
Yakuza: Spy
Convict: face stabbing Spy
African Deathsquademo
Russian spetsnaz: Heavy
Drug cartel enforcer: pryo

 

[Legend of J]

Hi MovieBob, could you stop ragging on Twilight, its flawed yes... not every single piece of literature is The Divine Comedy, if you hate anything enough you will find flaws because your looking for them.

You said yourself in the Harry Potter critique you did that any flaws pointed out would not change peoples minds over it (please correct whatever you said) and whether or not they would see it.

All your doing now is giving flamers and trollers ammo to attack someone else on this site and other sites with regards to Twilight, these kids would not have noticed what you have noticed because a) they aren't as of observant as you and b) because they wouldn't have watched it anyway.

Anyway, I'm going to buy all the films and all the books as retribution for all the smack talk this series has got, girls like it, LET THEM, I like KillZone, I've not come across a girl that likes that, or anyone for that matter.

I think the reason why him and other people are flaming it so much and picking it apart is because it really is that bad. If i wrote a bad essay at university my lecturer doesn't say "ahh well everyone to their own" they fail my ass and proceed to tell me why it's a load of crap. That is what bob is doing, he's explaining why it's rubbish.

But the problem is twilight was good as a one shot vampire romance (not the best yeah ill admit it). But i had an enjoyable plot which was taken to the 20st centery and wasent set in a major city or night club. Yeah sparkle vampries i wount justify it as a great move however it was there own shot at the vampire legacy. I mean common sunlight burning vampires or vampires being able to walk in the daylight or vampires rotting (my personal favorite). Has being done whats the point makin exactly the same. The reason it failed because are you a girl/guy who wanted to "escape to a romantic vampire world". Everythink has its flaws the sooner you just bury your head and think meh to twilight the more you can enjoy the stuff which really matters. Like reading the first book cause your uni roomate asked you to XD.

 

[tamerman]

Uh, no. That happens in every culture, it's just that in (for lack of a better word) "civilized" cultures it's done in other, subtle ways (or not so subtle as with the whole shooting your first deer example).

Here, I'll get you started with one great example: The whole "losing your virginity, notch on your belt" thing. Seems innocuous at first, and yet think about how much shit guys get as they get older and older for having not done it.

To think that "civilized" cultures have moved past the basic tropes of hunter/gatherer life is pure fallacy. All of our instincts and old tribal habits are still there, they've just been channeled and funneled into different directions. After all, beating your enemy's head open with a rock isn't exactly kosher these days

"Getting shit" can't really be compared with the rites of becoming a man that tribes today have.

No, and I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that while they've become subdued and not terribly overt, all of our tribal tendencies do still exist. Humans may have neat technology and fancy clothes, but we are animals at heart.

But that's the thing with Predators. Humankind has subdued these tribal tendencies over time, and considering Predators seem to be much more advanced than us (even though they are still, for some reason, vile, slimy monsters with fuckin' huge claws sticking out of their mouth and shit), shouldn't their tribal tendencies be more subdued than that of the modern societies on our planet?

i think the key word here is WE subdues our tribal tendencies. Obviously the predators didn?t, and instead embraced them, looking for new and exiting ways to do so via technology

Judging from the first Predator; nope. Remember that Indian bloke ripping his shirt off and pulling his knife? He got backstabbed. Slimy bastard that Predator is.

IMO that predator was actually a "rogue" predator. he wasent uspposed to be there, and so evrything he did was just for kicks and giggles rather then for any real trophies or honor.

Lets just hope they fuck off with the alien vs predator crap. Unless they make it without any humans in it. That might be alright.

honestly, WTF was wrong with the alien Vs predator movies? i think they were absolutely amaising. also: it would be kind of hard to have any of the ALIENS in that movie if there werent any humans around to incubate them.

 

[Dioxide20]

I liked the movie, it wasn't the greates, nor was it the worst.

But I have got a few questions, and it involves spoilers and I don't know how to hide them so:

SPOILERS!

At 4:42 in the video you see about 10 of the Predator laser trackers on Brody, and yet in the movie itself, there are only 3 Predators. Where did the other 7 trackers come from?

During the movie, you have the Doctor character running as bait from that one strange creature. It definetly is not a Predator, as it does not have the facemask, the cloaking device, or anything. What was that thing and why did it just kind of get dropped later in the movie?

And finally, what's the deal with this Predator blood fued. You have the one normal Predator (as in the one you see in the AVP movies and the original Predator movies) bound and left for dead in the Predator camp, and then all the other strange Predators who have different skin coloring and longer faces. That whole thing was just brushed on, never really explained. But what I want to know is, is there some story line not seen in the movie that has to do with this strange fued? (like something in the comic books?)

 

[ICanBreakTheseCuffs]

Ha! Ted Nugent from space harharhar