Oh noooooo! The monkeys have heightened intelligence! If only we had some sort of lead throwing device with which to Swiss cheese them with, since all we have are these feeble explosive weapons and other interesting ways to maul living organisms.
Escape to the Movies: Rise of the Planet of the Apes
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Actually this movie does a much better job of explaining how the apes end up in control and also showing how "We really did it" so to speak. I don't want to ruin the ending but basically we are responsible for our own destruction and the apes just happen to take advantage of that fact.
I don't totally agree with Mr. Bob's review, at least that the movie doesn't focus on "Science is bad" so much....since uncontrolled science is basically what mostly wipes out humanity (not to mention making another species intelligent enough to move in and enslave us afterwards), but I do agree that it focuses more on how the actions of individuals (or people just being jerks) can have such a large influence and ultimately lead to our doom as well.
I really liked the originals and to be honest I'm more jaded now then I was back then, but I did enjoy this movie and I think it's well worth seeing. I certainly thought it was better then the 2004 planet of the apes movie (Which I've seen twice...only 2 parts I really liked in that...Heston cursing the humans and the ending).
I'm a marvel fan, but not a huge fan of DC or Captain America....so for me this has been the best movie of the summer so far.
I don't totally agree with Mr. Bob's review, at least that the movie doesn't focus on "Science is bad" so much....since uncontrolled science is basically what mostly wipes out humanity (not to mention making another species intelligent enough to move in and enslave us afterwards), but I do agree that it focuses more on how the actions of individuals (or people just being jerks) can have such a large influence and ultimately lead to our doom as well.
I really liked the originals and to be honest I'm more jaded now then I was back then, but I did enjoy this movie and I think it's well worth seeing. I certainly thought it was better then the 2004 planet of the apes movie (Which I've seen twice...only 2 parts I really liked in that...Heston cursing the humans and the ending).
I'm a marvel fan, but not a huge fan of DC or Captain America....so for me this has been the best movie of the summer so far.
Seems like everyone's problem is that it seems unfeasible for the apes to take over humanity just by getting smarter, but the end credits of the film explain that the virus spreads all over the planet killing humans and making apes smart.
So if humans are dying by the truckload from a virus and the very same thing is making apes capable of beating humans, then it seems reasonable to me that they could take over the earth.
So if humans are dying by the truckload from a virus and the very same thing is making apes capable of beating humans, then it seems reasonable to me that they could take over the earth.
i was kinda eying this movie weird because they've done so many reboots of stuff recently,but it looked good, and this review seems to agree.
Question tho,(not sure if this was asked/answered or what) what was the original premise of the first film? i know he was a space traveler that crashed on the planet, but was it supposed to be that he traveled through time and ended up back on earth, or was the planet of the apes a different planet?
i saw a remake with Matt Damon that seemed to favor the time travel thing, except when he left it was like he had been in the past, and had caused the earth he returned to to be full of apes.
i think the first film had him travel to a future earth inhabited by apes, but i'm not sure. its been kinda bugging me, so i'd appreciate a response.
Question tho,(not sure if this was asked/answered or what) what was the original premise of the first film? i know he was a space traveler that crashed on the planet, but was it supposed to be that he traveled through time and ended up back on earth, or was the planet of the apes a different planet?
i saw a remake with Matt Damon that seemed to favor the time travel thing, except when he left it was like he had been in the past, and had caused the earth he returned to to be full of apes.
i think the first film had him travel to a future earth inhabited by apes, but i'm not sure. its been kinda bugging me, so i'd appreciate a response.
Zetsubou^-^ said:
Yes, in the original you think it's another planet for most of the movie...or an alternative reality etc, but towards the end he finds party of a buried statue of liberty and realizes that it's earth in the future and humanity destroyed itself.
In the Mark Walberg (not mat damon) remake they tweaked it a bit but still when he arrives on the planet humans are enslaved and the apes know about their superior technology in the past. At the end of the remake though it looks like the rift sends him to alternative realities though because when he gets back it's a planet run by apes with technology....and the leader ape he just defeated when he left....is celebrated as a hero (taking the place of abraham lincoln.
In the original though it was all basically done in one timeline/reality pretty much and they covered many points in the timeline (The creation of the smart apes, their revolution etc).
This newest movie though is VERY different then the originals in that smart apes were never used as slaves like in the original (which is probably why they in turn used the humans as slaves). It would be a bit more difficult to incorporate how the super smart apes end up enslaving humans (since they would probably fight to the end) in this new version.
This. 100 times this. There can be no suspension of disbelief for me without some sort of explanation for how the apes are immune to bullets. It's just ridiculous.jumjalalabash said:
It would really be funny if it was an anti-gun control message. We don't use guns because we abolished them, thus evening the playing field for the apes who are resistant to our non-lethal crowd control weapons. Then it could have a shout out to Charleton Heston that would work on multiple levels. Something about prying something from someone's cold dead hands or "get your dirty hands off my gun, you damn dirty hippie!" Of course the premise would cease to make sense once the National Guard was called in, but whatever.
No way a predominantly liberal Hollywood would go for it though. Too bad.
Ya know we really don't have enough hippie beats in movies that are played straight. There is probably a huge market in that, because that sounds much more interesting of an idea then people fighting apes with riot batons and police horses. Even weirder being that most producers and upper management of Hollywood are pretty Right-wing and old timey.ReiverCorrupter said:
This calls for a song!
TARZAN SUPER APE An Origami Rock Opera
TARZAN: Aah aah aah ahh
CHORUS: Big white man from out of the sky (x4)
TARZAN: My name's Tarzan and I am an ape man
Yes I really am
JANE: His name's Tarzan and he is my love
BOMBA: He's my Daddy and I love him too
'Cause I'm Bomba the jungle boy
And I love you too, I really do
WITCH/DR: I, I am the Witch Doctor
And I hate them so
TARZAN: As I fly through the trees again si boo ba boppa
I got my wife and Bomba by my side
As we swing we go ohh ah ooh ooh ah ay
We go aaaaaahhhhhh!
WITCH/DR: As I see them fly through the sky
I tell you I feel like a mere mortal man
Standing here upon the ground
While he and Jane and Bomba in the sky
I wonder why
TARZAN: Evil witchdoctor come on here
I've got something to tell you
'Bout the woman I love
WITCH/DR: But you said you loved all the animals
TARZAN: I know I said that
WITCH/DR: Now they're made 'cause you've left them
For a woman of her kind
JANE: I'm not that kind of woman!
BOMBA: Mommy doesn't like you, daddy doesn't like you
And I don't like you much at all
Evil witchdoctor you're really small
Compared to daddy, isn't he daddy
WITCH/DR: Well you know, that's not a nice thing to say to me
Bomba gonna getcha
BOMBA: Help me daddy, you know I can't swim
Evil witchdoctor's gonna throw me in
TARZAN: Put down mah son, don't throw him to the alligators
WITCH/DR: I will
JANE: But we're happily married with four hairy children
His furry black hair it just brings out the animal
In me, I go bananas, I go bananas for him
WITCH/DR: She goes bananas for him
TARZAN: Oh, he's dying
CHORUS: As we see the boy
BOMBA: Can you see me daddy, I'm still here
JANE: I see my boy
BOMBA: Well come on will ya, come on
TARZAN: As the alligator drags him down to drown
BOMBA: Hey quit singing and do something will ya!
TARZAN: This looks like a job for Tarzan
How do you spell it?
You take a T and an A and an R and Z
And an A and N it spells Tarzan
Spell it!
CHORUS: You take a T and an A and an R and Z
And an A and N that spells Nazrat
TARZAN: Aint that sweet
Here I come on my way to save yer
Bomba baby, my sweet baby
BOMBA: I can see you comin' daddy
I can see you comin'
CHORUS: Big white man from out of the sky
Big white man it was Tarzan
WITCH/DR: But to me he's still brave
Gone to his watery grave
All the live he could save
He was Tarzan
JANE: And the elephants
CHORUS: They're cryin' for the love of you Tarzan
JANE: Hey yeah
I loved a man, not just any superman
He was an ape to me
And we'll miss you so, in the Jungle Book you know
We'll miss you Tarzan Super Ape
CHORUS: Super Ape, Super Ape (repeat)
TARZAN: Oh I was the king of the animals
Please forgive me I was wrong
I should've married oen of my own kind
But I hate gorillas
WITCH/DR: Well know he's gone, I don't know why
To that great waterhole in the sky
And we'll miss you in the Jungle Book of Life
ALLIGATOR: Tarzan sure tastes great!
Played as a clip on this show originally, from around the same times as the Goodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQuWre6CJk
Now my friend will probably be drawing everyone as a chimp in his weekly comic strip for the next six months like last time.
TARZAN SUPER APE An Origami Rock Opera
TARZAN: Aah aah aah ahh
CHORUS: Big white man from out of the sky (x4)
TARZAN: My name's Tarzan and I am an ape man
Yes I really am
JANE: His name's Tarzan and he is my love
BOMBA: He's my Daddy and I love him too
'Cause I'm Bomba the jungle boy
And I love you too, I really do
WITCH/DR: I, I am the Witch Doctor
And I hate them so
TARZAN: As I fly through the trees again si boo ba boppa
I got my wife and Bomba by my side
As we swing we go ohh ah ooh ooh ah ay
We go aaaaaahhhhhh!
WITCH/DR: As I see them fly through the sky
I tell you I feel like a mere mortal man
Standing here upon the ground
While he and Jane and Bomba in the sky
I wonder why
TARZAN: Evil witchdoctor come on here
I've got something to tell you
'Bout the woman I love
WITCH/DR: But you said you loved all the animals
TARZAN: I know I said that
WITCH/DR: Now they're made 'cause you've left them
For a woman of her kind
JANE: I'm not that kind of woman!
BOMBA: Mommy doesn't like you, daddy doesn't like you
And I don't like you much at all
Evil witchdoctor you're really small
Compared to daddy, isn't he daddy
WITCH/DR: Well you know, that's not a nice thing to say to me
Bomba gonna getcha
BOMBA: Help me daddy, you know I can't swim
Evil witchdoctor's gonna throw me in
TARZAN: Put down mah son, don't throw him to the alligators
WITCH/DR: I will
JANE: But we're happily married with four hairy children
His furry black hair it just brings out the animal
In me, I go bananas, I go bananas for him
WITCH/DR: She goes bananas for him
TARZAN: Oh, he's dying
CHORUS: As we see the boy
BOMBA: Can you see me daddy, I'm still here
JANE: I see my boy
BOMBA: Well come on will ya, come on
TARZAN: As the alligator drags him down to drown
BOMBA: Hey quit singing and do something will ya!
TARZAN: This looks like a job for Tarzan
How do you spell it?
You take a T and an A and an R and Z
And an A and N it spells Tarzan
Spell it!
CHORUS: You take a T and an A and an R and Z
And an A and N that spells Nazrat
TARZAN: Aint that sweet
Here I come on my way to save yer
Bomba baby, my sweet baby
BOMBA: I can see you comin' daddy
I can see you comin'
CHORUS: Big white man from out of the sky
Big white man it was Tarzan
WITCH/DR: But to me he's still brave
Gone to his watery grave
All the live he could save
He was Tarzan
JANE: And the elephants
CHORUS: They're cryin' for the love of you Tarzan
JANE: Hey yeah
I loved a man, not just any superman
He was an ape to me
And we'll miss you so, in the Jungle Book you know
We'll miss you Tarzan Super Ape
CHORUS: Super Ape, Super Ape (repeat)
TARZAN: Oh I was the king of the animals
Please forgive me I was wrong
I should've married oen of my own kind
But I hate gorillas
WITCH/DR: Well know he's gone, I don't know why
To that great waterhole in the sky
And we'll miss you in the Jungle Book of Life
ALLIGATOR: Tarzan sure tastes great!
Played as a clip on this show originally, from around the same times as the Goodies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQQuWre6CJk
Now my friend will probably be drawing everyone as a chimp in his weekly comic strip for the next six months like last time.
I never saw the original Planet of the Apes, and I thought this was a fantastic movie. One of the best I've seen all year in fact
Also, to everyone asking why they didn't just shoot the apes, here's what happened:
Of course, if you guys actually saw the movie, I wouldn't have to spoil it for you.
Also, to everyone asking why they didn't just shoot the apes, here's what happened:
When the police and SWAT set up a barricade on the bridge, Cesar ordered his ape army to go below and above the bridge in order to surround and surprise them. He also had some of them knock down and push a bus in order to provide cover while making the gunmen think that they are attacking them directly. Once the bus was close enough, Cesar signaled the apes from below and above the bridge to attack. That's how a bunch of apes were able to defeat a group of heavily armed men.
Of course, if you guys actually saw the movie, I wouldn't have to spoil it for you.
This is the most retarded movie premise I've seen in a long time. There just aren't enough chimps in the world for this. Next, just how many can you gather in one spot? I find it completely unbelievable enough that suspension of disbelief isn't possible. There just aren't enough many chimps and apes to do this. We're talking species in danger of extinction due to deforestation, and these scientists just happen to have several hundred in cages? Never mind the breeding needed to generate a world dominated force (assuming the drug affects the children as well).
Oh and one last thing, being given the ability to be smart |= being smart. Just look at our own children, it takes decades. The bigger and most complex brains take years to develop.
Oh and one last thing, being given the ability to be smart |= being smart. Just look at our own children, it takes decades. The bigger and most complex brains take years to develop.
It was nice enough of a movie. The how apes win is explained very well, I actually saw it coming miles away, they give hints as to how it goes down along the line.
But really Bob? They dont depict science as the evil here?
"Somethings arent meant to be controlled." -quote from the movie. Said on the face of a guy trying to cure his dads alzheimer. Classy. They should totally say this to people with huntingtons as well. And people with other, as of now, incurable diseases. You know, because its fun to watch other people suffer. I get it. And they propably deserve it.
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But really Bob? They dont depict science as the evil here?
"Somethings arent meant to be controlled." -quote from the movie. Said on the face of a guy trying to cure his dads alzheimer. Classy. They should totally say this to people with huntingtons as well. And people with other, as of now, incurable diseases. You know, because its fun to watch other people suffer. I get it. And they propably deserve it.
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I went to see it and to me it pretty much sums up why I hate PG13 movies. I was sat next to some kid who was brought by there parents and had to listen to what?s that who?s that why is there words on the screen (subtitles), although it did make me laugh during the scene with the horse back cop with the biggest balls ever starts waling on the gorilla and is about to be deboned when the protagonist ape basically says with one yell hey throttle back man kids are watching this you know. Now directors throttling back on some themes to get adults to bring there kids and thus get an extra ticket sale isn?t a horrible thing in-fact it can cause directors to have to put on there creative cap with things like violence and character deatt. usually however it just means adult viewers will see the safe for kids stamp justifications in every scene aimed at adults and the kid will be board with plot points they don?t understand and all the dynamic drama pro points you mentioned will have just shot over there heads. witch leads to my point can we stop lowering the bar just to get ticket sales plase?(listen to me being the pretentious idiot expecting directors to circumvent and jeopardise the very reason they are in a job) or maybe all these extra sales tickets where needed only to pay for the fancy CGI.