Escape to the Movies: Scott Pilgrim vs. The World

[EBHughsThe1st]

Huh, I'm intrigued.

A movie where the main character has to face 7 bosses?

Not just seven bosses. The girl of his dreams' seven evil Ex-BFs.

Seven evil Exs. Remember the Les?

 

[captainwillies]

You... you can't be serious. Bob, if you (or anyone else here) honestly believes that, then answer me this:

As portrayed in the movie, why does Ramona feel ANY attraction Scott whatsoever?

you know just making an effort can land you a girl it's not that unbelievably hard.

BTW: if you're trying to appeal to hardcore fans by adapting scenes directly from the comic, don't strip all the narrative significance from them.

not really. the bit about subspace travel was still there. The director just placed some trivia of possibly one of his favourite games into his movie. Not only is this such a small scene but really? upon finally watching the Watchmen movie I was disappointed at the lack of alot of detail in some of the origin stories but man was that still a fantastic movie! Just try not to nit pick so much.

 

[PayneTrayne]

I enjoyed the trailer so much I went out and bought the books. I read all the books and went to see the movie so all I noticed were the scenes that I loved from the books missing (Knives' father fighting Roxie, Scott's brain cracking into a chicken, the "Dipping Sauce *****", the first fight with the vegan and of course, I'd kick your life in the balls) so I didn't enjoy the movie too much. I'm thinking I should let the books out of my brain before revisiting it with a more neutral pallet.

 

[standokan]

Finally ,i´ve really been waiting for this movie to come out, i hope its as awesome as you say.

 

[Ericb]

I don't know about the movie yet, but in the comics Ramona is a pretty selfish and self-centered nigh-emo queen with lousy taste in relationships.

So honestly, Scott is one of her better achievements. They're a match made in heaven.

I'm thinking I should let the books out of my brain before revisiting it with a more neutral pallet.

Expectation is a *****, really.

I used to feel bad about seeing some movies before I read the respective books, but now I know that it does not matter at all. Every film needs to hold up all on its own.

Even if the source material is great on many levels, like this one is.

 

[yanipheonu]

"A thoughtful, resonant and mature study of relationships among young adults in the modern era"

You... you can't be serious. Bob, if you (or anyone else here) honestly believes that, then answer me this:

[HEADING=3]As portrayed in the movie, why does Ramona feel ANY attraction Scott whatsoever?[/HEADING]

How can you call this movie a "thoughtful, resonant, and mature study" of young adult relationships when it complete glosses the female perspective? As you pointed out later in the review:

There are plenty of women in real life that date jerks that treat them far worse for reason outside parties could not possibly understand. Considering that Ramona's dating history is a history of poor choices in men, why do people think that there would be no attraction on her part just because scott is a jerk...

That may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that it's completely unaddressed by the movie.

The problem isn't that Scott's a jerk, the problem is she has no idea who Scott is. If Ramona is simply making another "poor choice in men", then fine, but that's hardly thoughtful or mature.

Note that the reason you like many people in relationship in real life can go unanswered for a long itme. I've dated girls I've had no idea why I liked until much later, but the initial attraction was enough to spark the relationship.

You don't need a reason to start a relationship or to be attracted to someone.

Besides, if you're talking arbitrary relationships in a movie, there are movies that are far worse for that.

Also, Ramona literally STATES the reason she likes him. She says he's the nicest person she ever dated, and she needed to be with something like that right now.

 

[Nmil-ek]

Shame it utterly bob-ombed at the box office then huh.

 

[cobra_ky]

BTW: if you're trying to appeal to hardcore fans by adapting scenes directly from the comic, don't strip all the narrative significance from them.

not really. the bit about subspace travel was still there. The director just placed some trivia of possibly one of his favourite games into his movie. Not only is this such a small scene but really?

I'm talking about the scene at the party. Scott's first conversation with Ramona is the only significant event there and he denies it ever happened. So what does that scene add to the movie, aside from the opportunity for a few jokes? They could have gone straight from Scott seeing her at the library to him ordering the package and waiting for her.

upon finally watching the Watchmen movie I was disappointed at the lack of alot of detail in some of the origin stories but man was that still a fantastic movie! Just try not to nit pick so much.

but I like nitpicking... ;_;

And i liked the movie, too. I don't mean to imply that I didn't. But I enjoyed it for what it was: a fun comedy romp through a post-adolescent fantasy world. It's a decent coming of age story, but not a great modern romance.

Note that the reason you like many people in relationship in real life can go unanswered for a long itme. I've dated girls I've had no idea why I liked until much later, but the initial attraction was enough to spark the relationship.

You don't need a reason to start a relationship or to be attracted to someone.

Besides, if you're talking arbitrary relationships in a movie, there are movies that are far worse for that.

Also, Ramona literally STATES the reason she likes him. She says he's the nicest person she ever dated, and she needed to be with something like that right now.

I'm not saying it's impossible for cool, attractive women to show up at your door and fall into your lap for reasons neither of you understand. Just that it's highly unlikely and it damn sure isn't thoughtful or resonant. Of course there are plenty of movies with much, much worse romances, but that doesn't make the romance in this movie particularly good.

Also, Ramona literally STATES the reason she likes him. She says he's the nicest person she ever dated, and she needed to be with something like that right now.

Did you read my first post? Bob addressed this right in his review:

"While Scott IS sensitive and thoughtful, he's also a real jerk. He's whiny, selfish, shallow and he shamelessly milks his innate helplessness for female sympathy. So all the fighting is less about proving himself to Ramona, whose already lived enough of life to have him pretty well figured out."

Scott is a pretty big jerk in a lot of ways. When Ramona gets mad at him later he says he's "a evil-ex waiting to happen". Like I said before, why does Ramona stay with him when she knows he's kind of a tool and she could do better?

Now, maybe you're right, and Ramona did fall for the first semi-nice guy who came her way. but if that's the case, then that's a far cry from "a thoughtful, resonant, and mature study of relationships among young adults in the modern era".

I enjoyed the trailer so much I went out and bought the books. I read all the books and went to see the movie so all I noticed were the scenes that I loved from the books missing (Knives' father fighting Roxie, Scott's brain cracking into a chicken, the "Dipping Sauce *****", the first fight with the vegan and of course, I'd kick your life in the balls) so I didn't enjoy the movie too much. I'm thinking I should let the books out of my brain before revisiting it with a more neutral pallet.

Agreed. This is my other big nitpick about the movie: It's wildly inconsistent in how faithful it is to the books. Some scenes and dialogue are lifted verbatim, while others are rearranged or changed completely. That, along with the lightning-quick pacing of the movie creates a lot of cognitive dissonance for people who know the books well. Being forced to constantly recontextualize events and plot points as they continue to happen in rapid succession made the film difficult for me to follow.

 

[Funkysandwich]

People need to get over the whole "Michael Cera is teh sux" thing.

I hardly pay attention to which actor is in what film, and prefer to concentrate on the characters and plot rather than the actors themselves, and I think I get more enjoyment out of films that way. At least I don't ***** and moan about whatever actor being in whatever film. I just see the movie, and if it's bad, it's bad, and if it's good, it's good.

At the end of the day, I enjoyed the movie. That's all that really matters.

 

[ziggy161]

Huh, I'm intrigued.

A movie where the main character has to face 7 bosses?

Not just seven bosses. The girl of his dreams' seven evil Ex-BFs.

So...she's a whore?

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

Huh, I'm intrigued.

A movie where the main character has to face 7 bosses?

Not just seven bosses. The girl of his dreams' seven evil Ex-BFs.

So...she's a whore?

Ramona gives a little back story of each of them actually... She dated the first because he was the only non-jock who was into her in grade 6, so they teamed up and beat the shit out the Jocks. In grade 7 hse dated another, in Grade 10 I think she dated one but he had to go off to vegan academy (watch movie for story). A few of them she actually only kissed, and some he didn't date very long. She's not a whore, she just lives in the moment...

 

[ender214]

The movie was decent, but fell far short of the books. The main issue is probably the movie's failure to convey any form of chemistry between Scott and Ramona that I could see, and how the movie made Scott far more of a "hero" character than the books ever did.

 

[Alexadecimal]

Can't wait to see this, the comics are awesome and so is Edgar Wright. Too bad im in britain so i have to wait

 

[Lunar Templar]

just saw it, and

it was good :3, i enjoyed it, enough that i'll wanna buy it when it comes out
the video game touches where done well i though, the characters fun, though, 'the clash at demonhead' pic at the end of the review confused me till i saw it,

got it lol

good review as always btw

 

[cobra_ky]

The movie was decent, but fell far short of the books. The main issue is probably the movie's failure to convey any form of chemistry between Scott and Ramona that I could see, and how the movie made Scott far more of a "hero" character than the books ever did.

Wow. I really wish I had made this post instead of three long, drawn-out argumentative ones.

 

[aeziir]

Watched the movie. Loved it. Nuff said.

 

[unicornninja]

Just got back from Scott Pilgrim and i LOVED it. the fight scenes were awesome and it was hilarious great film to go along with a great review you rock moviebob!