Escape to the Movies: Star Trek: Into Darkness

[RJ Dalton]

And this is why I wasn't planning on seeing it from the beginning. Abrams is an idiot who doesn't know the first thing about writing a good story. I mean, did we all forget that his movies have been a succession of hype building up to some kind of "big secret" that was ultimately stupid, lacking any semblance of cleverness and brain-burstingly disappointing?

 

[Parakeettheprawn]

Spoiler filled? Why?

This means that I can't watch this review.
The general consensus seems to be that it's good, I'll have to go by that - as I don't want a review spoiling the movie.

Really? Not what I've been hearing...

 

[felicia_angel]

I know MovieBob has a problem with Abrams and his direction. I personally like it because non-Star Trek fans tend to get into the movie, and as a fan of the original series, I personally liked the reboots. Even the semi-forced kid!Kirk and car scene in the first one. Not because it was just mindless (it was, but it was well-shot and decent) but because it did help set up this new universe. I liked it enough to follow the comic tie-ins, and those do basic re-treads of the old show, and a lot of it is good because you have to take the new dynamics into consideration.
Also, as a writer (non-professional but still), I will say that there is nothing new under the sun. I didn't watch the spoilers but I can guess...and I honestly don't care. I could just say 'because Cumberbatch', but also because I really don't. There are only so many "twists" you can do, even for Star Trek. I'm not worried about Abram's work with Star Wars either - he's so far done ok with Star Trek and if he leaves the next movies to others, that'll be fine. He has good ideas, and sometimes it takes a moment for those to work. He did his best to keep things a secret, it's just harder to do without giving out a false script and trailers.
I like your reviews, I do Bob...but sometimes letting you see a Abrams movie is like letting me review a rom-com. It usually starts with 'yeah, doesn't sound good' and ends with 'waste of my money'. If there is ever an exception, I congratulate you. Until then? I'm going to be in my AOS camp with my younger McCoy.

 

[MarsProbe]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/star_trek_into_darkness/

87% of professional critics and 89% of people who saw the movie thought it was good.

Can you hear the butthurt?

I love the old star trek, i loved TNG, i loved the reboot, and I'm sure I'm gonna love this. Everything he says in this review is just REALLY subjective (like saying something is dumb, you can not objectively say a movie "works" or "doesn't work"). Just remember, this is the same guy who told us to watch a Twilight movie and Sucker Punch (and also genuinely believes that Halo: Reach was just "Halo 3 with jetpacks" and that the humans were the bad ones and protects the hypothesis whenever arguments against Nintendo come up)

Yeh, I don't really get what people's problem is (read: there isn't one but hey, Bob is doing it, so it must be right!) here. Who cares if it's not really like "old" Trek, I'd take this film and it's predecessor over another viewing of The Voyage Home or Nemesis any time.

To cut a long story short, people will whine about these films until they're blue in the face but in the end it's their loss for not being able to enjoy them. And if that means they won't be able to enjoy the new Star Wars film either then so be it. At least the rest of us will get on okay.

 

[synobal]

As someone who loathed the first film, I'm pretty glad this one bombed. This 'reboot' needs to reburied so we can move onto more and better stuff.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Not particularly relevenat I guess, but wednesday night I had the chance to go outa nd see the midnight release (without really even realizing), and instead went out to see pain and gain.

... and from the sound of it, I think pain and gain was the more enjoyable of the options. cause it was actually really good.

 

[John Wedge]

Now I am really worried about the upcoming Star Wars movies. Why couldn't it have been Peter Jackson?

What, after the abortion that was the Hobbit?

I don't know, every time I watch Bob I can't help but find him more wrong- having already seen Into Darkness I was intrigued to see what he made of it. It would seem that in his view the film is bad because the writers had the audacity to reference the original universe and make, you know, one that runs parallel while writing their own story. There was me thinking this was sort of the point of the reboot. The 'twist' he so disliked I found to be brilliantly executed, even more so when I realised exactly what they were doing.

The fact that Bob dismissed Harrison as merely a 'plot device' really smacks of him going into this with his mind already made up- there is pretty much no way in Bob's world that this film could please him- complex and multi-layered is dismissed as being a plot-device, yet if Harrison had been consistently evil/psychopathic/raspberry flavoured or whatever Bob would have called him 'One dimensional'.

My girlfriend and I are both lifelong Trek fans, her even more so than me, and we both thought it was an enjoyable fun movie with some great performances and decent-if-unoriginal action sequences which was true to the Trek mythos, and true to itself. I'd definitely recommend it to everyone. But then I know I'm odd because...

Spoiler

I don't think Wrath of Khan is that good in the first place, and have never understood the hype around it.

 

[daxterx2005]

The Hang Over Part III, YES!

 

[otakon17]

Remember folks, J.J. Abrams is the guy that's going to direct the new Star Wars movies too, from all accounts. Man, shooting down TWO beloved sci-fi universes with one director. What a twist.

 

[VoidWanderer]

Dear Mr Abrams...

You are becoming a hybrid of M. Night Shyamalan and Michael Bay.

Be forewarned...

 

[Chessrook44]

Or they could just have Luke fight and kill one of Palpatine's many clones. Yes he actually had clones in the lore. Several of them.

Not any more.

Lucas has stated publicly that he hates the EU. And guess what, he's a creative consultant for the new Star Wars movies!

Expect absolutely none of the EU's canon to be respected. Not even the good stuff.

If the new movies aren't the Thrawn Trilogy, in my eyes they are not episodes 7 8 and 9.

 

[w00tage]

I know (am related in fact) to people who thought Battleship was "f*ckin' awesome!". So I predict this movie will do well at the box office, and Mr. Abrams will be hailed as awesome too. Again.

 

[ash12181987]

The thing about Movie Bob reviews, is that I really don't have time for twists in movies. I've seen too many movies myself to be "Surprised" by anything these days.

I actually kind of like when he does these spoilers so I can get an idea of what I'm getting into, and from what he said, I'm actually kind of upset they did with Star Trek what I kind of saw happening 2 years ago (Which I wont mention incase someone reading this, didn't watch the review or see the movie yet, but will refer to here on out as ripoff, and assume people know what I am talking about).

Ripoff is a really bad thing to do with a series like star trek, because there is only so far you can go, using that same tired formula, before you start to run out of material.

Thank you for throwing all that out there, so now I know what to look for going into this movie.

Will repost agree/disagree when I've seen it.

 

[navyjeff]

Well that just saved me $20. I figured that this movie was going to be like that; now I have confirmation. The only way I can enjoy this movie now is drunk, so I'll have to wait for video. I think I'll go watch the Wrath of Khan now instead.

Thanks, Bob!

 

[Nomanslander]

Am I like the only few people that felt Wrath of Khan wasn't as great as people like to imagine it to be? Best entry in the series is still Star Trek 4 if you ask me.

Anyways, saw this movie, and I thought it was pretty good. It wasn't great. But it was a decent entry in the revamped series. The problem that I had with the last movie was how dumb and nonsensical the motives and plot were in the movie. Nero's motives made no sense, and the time traveling elements didn't seem plausible but force.

On the other hand, I felt Into Darkness was a lot more easier to follow. I could have used more Klingons and less scenes of forced Star Trek shout outs to the original series (Bones' metaphors started to get annoying). But I regress.

The twist in the end... well, I felt like they chickened out in the end (having to do with Captain Kirk). But then again the original movies did the exact same thing with Star Trek 3. As being an altered timeline, I sorta liked how Kirk and Spocks positions were reverse, it gave it the sense that even with altered timelines, certain things do end up playing themselves out.

As for Bob's review? Well... I don't know. One thing I figured out about the way Bob does his job is he has the bad habit of making up his mind a little to easily. He doesn't have much of an open mind, and if he decides he's going to hate Star Wars 7, no matter how good the movie turns out to be, he's not going to change his mind. On the reverse side, no matter how bad Avengers 2 ends up, I know he'll defend and praise it till the end.

 

[lacktheknack]

http://www.metacritic.com/movie/star-trek-into-darkness

http://dustinputman.com/reviews/s/13_startrekintodarkness.htm

So, basically, what I've pulled from this is that I, a non-Trekkie, will enjoy this.

Awesome!

 

[Frost27]

Why do people who hate movies do movie reviews?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Yeah, I hate Abrams. I probably won't bother to see this in theatres and instead wait for it to appear on Netflix.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Not really into Star Trek (at all) and I gave the first movie a pass. Good to know the sequel isn't much to speak of.

Seems to be that if you're trekkie you're going to realize where this going before it's even a twist and non-trekkies will be left... into darkness. That was tortured.