Escape to the Movies: The Expendables

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LXQUICKJUSTICE

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You think Rich Boy, erghm, I mean Scott Pilgrim was a good movie? Wow, absolutely no reason to listen to your opinion ever again. I wondered if you were an industry whore from the beginning while you were giving head to pixar over toy story... Yeah what an engaging pill of crap.

Scott pilgrim is the story of a lucky talentless dweeb who has family in the movie business and gets put into to big budget films because he's just LUCKY. He sucks. Anthony hopkins has talent. Ridley Scott has talent. Sigourney weaver has talent. Scott Pilgrim boy? Give me a break you pompous moron.

I'm a nerd but I don't like talentless idiots like that little Sh$% and its especially irritating to listen to a self righteous nerd talk down to the viewer of a movie review... Scott Pilgrim would be a much better movie if it had a worthy lead role. Instead its the pathetic idiot from superbad. Yeah, we all REALLY LOVE that little dweeb don't we...

I'm sure I'm not the only one would like to kick his stomach in so his nuts drop
 

Aiddon_v1legacy

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uh, Sigourney Weaver's father was at one point the president of NBC (and the creator of The Tonight Show) so her getting into showbiz was as easy as walking down the hall. Heck, a lot of actors are from rich families tied into the film industry.

And Cera's father was a Xerox technician who immigrated from Sicily
 

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Hubilub said:
I could barely finish watching this review. Took a lot of strength.

I can't believe Bob this week. We are obedient sheep because we go see one of the biggest collaboration films this decade instead of watching a film that was barely advertised in many places? We are the worst kind of people on earth because we like the premise that a movie will be an homage to 80s action films?

He dropped the ball on this review. Insulting a film is one thing, insulting someone for liking it is another, but insulting people for thinking the premise sounds like a fun idea?. That's a new low. I won't even go into how much I disagree with you on the quality of the film.

For someone who tries to hinder people from being elitist nerds, you are one of the biggest elitist nerds I've seen in quite a while.
lolz

Hate driven insulting review is not cool.

OH NOES!!! THERE IS NO GOREEEE!!! Seriously that seems to be the one consistent thing Bob likes to mention in any action/horror movie as being a good reason to see something. I think gore is a cheap most of the time and you dont need to spoon feed the images to the audience. Maybe Bob was angry he didnt get his gore fill.

Remember the days of Action and Horror when you didnt HAVE to show someones intestines being blown out of them? and by just adding the noise and showing someones shocked face was enough?.
 

Lionsfan

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F-I-D-O said:
crewman_number_6 said:
I'm sorry Movie Bob but I fear you've gone the way a ZP. I no longer listen to you for actual information instead of more of an entertainment. I thought the Expendables was a great action movie, instead of focusing on something else, it focused on the genre, action. Also, I hated Scott Pilgrim and enjoyed The Other Guys much more than it.
Woohoo! Another fan of Other Guys! Internet high five!
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Sorry, can't find very many people who liked it
Personally, I think MovieBob is, to quote Spock, emotionally compromised. He loved Scott Pilgrim (his opinion), saw it do "poorly" (Actually pretty good for a movie with almost zero advertising, no robots, and no vampires) and took his rage out on expendables. It wouldn't (probably) have been as harsh a review if Scott Pilgrim had been number one in the office.
Yes Bob, I did quote the new Star Trek. Guess what, I liked it.
oh, and to moviebob...you call the people who saw it sheep when you have a large number of people who go or don't go to every movie you like/dislike respectfully. Who's the sheep, and who's the herder now?
Your not alone! The Other Guys was easily one of the better comedies of this year. Probably my number two buddy cop movie (behind Hot Fuzz)

On topic though, this was definitely a low point for Bob. Yes, Scott Pilgrim was a better flick. Yes, people will remember it a lot longer than Expendables. Yes, Scott was a whole lot better than Eat, Pray, Love. But to criticize Expendables by saying it's an "artless piece of shit movie"? Not every movie has to have a deeper meaning for it to be good. We don't need a movie to have a sub-plot where the hero rediscovers the meaning of love in the modern world while examining the role of women in today's day and age. No one went into this movie expecting a great acting performance, hell I doubt anybody cared about the plot at all either.

Because for us "sheep" as you called us...sometimes we like cheesy action films. No I didn't like Transformers, not because of the source material or any of that. I just thought the action was poor and Megan Fox isn't all that hot. But I don't go around trashing people who watch it/love it. I argue with a lot of pretentious people about movies, because all pretentious people have this same view that their movies are better for some odd reason (probably because that person likes them) and anything they don't like is garbage. And everyone is just sheep around me cause they like whats popular. Well you know what? Things are popular for a reason, generally because enough people in the world liked it, and then told their friends to check it out and so on and so forth.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png

The image may not fit perfectly but it's somewhat close (just replace lives with movies and your good). The way your coming Bob across is that you and a select other people are the only people who know what a good movie is, or what a popular movie should be. Action movies are like a porn flick. We're not gonna see great acting, or a plausible story, or even a coherent plot. We're gonna see interesting stuff. We all know what's interesting about porn, and we all know whats interesting about action movies. A lot of explosions and gun fights and over the top stuff. That's why people liked A-Team, and Book of Eli, and Star Trek, and pretty much every movie you don't like. Everytime one of these movies comes along I know I'm about to hear a rage video from you and generally they've been fine. But I can't take it anymore. Deal with the fact that not everybody likes the same movies you do, and quite being a pretentious jerk ass
 

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OO OO OO!! JUST REALISED!!!

Bob will probably do his childish "statement" to us all in his next review video. Usually starting with

TRON 2: "Okay first off....Theres been some people blah blah blah Expendables blah blah blah"

Its funny when people try to redeem themselves or offer insight to their behaviour so im looking forward to Bob arguing back because he cant take it when the "Sheep" dont like being called idiots. Pompous ringworm.
 

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This kinda makes me glad that i saw Scott Pilgrim twice in a week,rather than once and this (like originally planned.)
 

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I'm really tired right now, so I'll join in on this conversation later. Before I pass out, I will leave you with this:
Dear Internet-
You now have no excuse to leave your sources uncited. Here is the direct transcript of Moviebob's review of The Expendables. Don't criticize my spelling - type up your own transcription, then you can criticize my efforts. Good night, and may God have mercy on the Internets.

Last weekend, I had a ton of fun re-experiencing a throwback to the golden age of cheesy, Regan-era, American action films. Because I got that DataEast Arcade Collection for the Wii, and it has an arcade-perfect port of Bad Dudes on it! Yeah, so many ninjas! Oh, I'm sorry; did you think I was talking about something else? Ah, well, the Expendables, on the other hand...this is easily the worst recent action film that doesn't star a badly-redesigned Transformer. It's not just bad, it's a worthless, meaningless, insulting piece of s*** masquerading as self-aware nostalgia. So, of course, it was a huge hit, making 35 million last weekend as the obedient sheep of the movie going public lined up for their processed cheese. In second place, two hours of watching some whiny rich chick eat pasta. And what of the other new movie? The original, engaging, potential pop-culture turning point that's probably one of the only two or three movies of the summer that'll have mattered a year from now? Fifth place. Box office dud. Just when you don't think the human race could prove itself any more f***ing worthless...well done, Planet Earth...*sigh*. Anyway, this is a guys-on-a-mission movie built around a poor imitation of 1980s action aesthetic. It stars Sylvester Stallone as the leader of a mercenary team, Mickey Rourke as their shady manager, Terry Cruze as a guy who should really be more famous than he is, Dolf Lundgrin as an underrated performer the film can't find anything to do with, Randy Couture as a fringe athlete who has no business acting in movies, Stone Cold Steve Austin as a pretend fringe athlete with no business acting in movies, Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger as cameos to make the trailer look more interesting than the actual movie, Jason Statham as Jason Statham in the Jason Statham story, and Jet Li as a martial arts legend who's being a really, really good sport about how easily he can probably take most of these dudes apart. The film wants to work on two levels - IE, if you're the sort of person who actually is longing for a return to the days when "Men were men, and action movies meant lumbering sacks of meat slammin' into one another! You know, before all that girly choreography; girly, skinny, kung-fu guys; and girly, uh...girls showed up and ruined it for everybody" you're probably just the worst sort of person, but you're probably going to like this. But, with all the retirement age, yesteryear bigshots stumbling around, it also wants to sell itself as a Grindhouse-style homage to the testosterone-fueled nonsense of the 80s, that film-geeks of sophistication often look back on with nostalgia or have learned to appreciate ironically. But that's a lie! Do not be fooled! This isn't a celebration of junk movies, or an elevation of junk movies, or even a deconstruction of junk movies - it just is a junk movie. Don't believe the hype - this isn't a love letter to bad 80s movies. It's just a plain-old, bad 2010 movie. The fact is, despite what the world's surprisingly large population of un-self-conscious bicep fetishists would have you believe, action movies got better once we got back to teaching actors how to fight, instead of finding guys who looked good in black tank tops and tried to pretend they were actors. Keanu Reeves may not have the most range in the world, but teaching him Kung Fu yielded a better Matrix than, say, casting Van Damme would have. I can't name one person in this movie for whom it isn't one of the worst things they've ever done...well, maybe Stone Cold. I mean, Jet Li was in an Oscar nominee. Mickey Rourke is an Oscar nominee. Stallone has an Oscar. Hell, even Couture was in a David Mamet movie. Lundgren, Statham and Cruze: they've all made better movies! So has Eric Roberts, even! Hell, he was just in that Dead or Alive movie and that had eight more reasons to exist than The Expendables does. What are any of them doing here, other than cashing a paycheck and wasting your f***ing time? Worst of all, it's boring. The shootouts are lame, the fight choreography is non-existent, there's not a single memorable kill or signature death scene to be had. And, to seal the deal, it's almost totally bloodless! Remember all that insane, over-the-top gore that made Rambo so fun? It's gone, except for some insert shots, giving off the suspicion that Stallone was going for a PG-13 and then changed his mind. That's right, there's only one thing a movie like the Expendables has to get right and it gets it wrong! It's too late to hope for it not to succeed, but it can't be said loudly or more often enough for the rest of the year - The Expendables f***ing sucks. It's a worthless, artless, piece of s*** that makes the whole movie-going world poorer by its existence. If you've managed to miss it so far, keep right on doing that. You'll be all the better for it. How much more succinct can I get? F*** this movie, and the next twenty, muscle-head, douche bag, pandering piece of crap movies that are all gonna get green-lit because this made money? F*** them too! See you next time.
 

Turkey Braveheart

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Actually Moviebob, between distribution, advertisement and sharing profits with the theaters the Expendables can only take home around 40% of the box office gross. Meaning they would have to make at least $180-200 million to turn a profit, which is damn unlikely.
 

xKevzeppelinx

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Bob completely missed the point of why The Expendables was good. His criticisms were as bad as if I said that a romantic comedy was bad because there wasn't enough blood. Or a Disney movie was bad because there wasn't enough swearing. You don't go to a romantic comedy for blood or a Disney movie for swears, and you don't go to an action movie for story or plot. Or expect it to have any depth. Me thinks Bob went in expecting to hate it and only saw parts he hated and brought them up in the review.
 

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Mostly I think you are quite good at reviewing movies, but on this occasion I think you have failed spectacularly. There are people in this world that can like movies like this and also like other more meaningful (and better) films as well. Just because you like this film, which I did, does not mean you are an idiot. It's an action movie, with terrific action. It does not attempt to be anything else other than an action movie. The plot is mearly incidental, it simply does not matter what reason those guys had to go to the island. It's all about the action when they get there.

I really think you missed the point. I also think, if you consider the action in this to be bad then you don't know what you are talking about. The fights are cut together very well.

This movie is fun, it's fun as hell. Just because you don't like a film doesn't mean it is bad and it doesn't mean it's completely worthless.

Personally if I don't like a film I just say it's not for me, I don't call everyone who does like it a moron and a bad person??!! That's not an intelligent view to take in my opinion.

Maybe I should mention that Scott Pilgrim wasn't out yet in Britain and I fully intend to go and see that as well as it looks great.

Seeing as I like your reviews and thought you had a good eye for films I would suggest maybe not going to see films like this again, as you come across as a bit clueless when reviewing them. You don't look for some sort of artistic merit, it's just a bunch of guys beating the crap out of some other guys.

And for the record Van Damme turned this down because he hates Dolph Lundgren. Don't ask me why.
 

duchaked

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well it's the MAN movie
so gonna watch it...why?
us guys need a turn
the girls have had 3 turns with their Twilights (all crappy films)
so why not us? that is...if you're man enough to join us! rawr :p
 

Michael Jaynes

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Personally, I enjoyed this review, though I'm not planning to base any decision on seeing the movie on it. I was excited about the idea when I first saw the trailer months ago, but my enthusiasm has waned.

Having not said the movie, I want to comment on the endless comments along the lines of "You missed the point, BOB. We don't go to an action movie because we want to see a good movie. Sometimes, we just need something dumb and mindless."

That's great, and that argument might fly for me if there wasn't a completely mindless action movie (or any other genre of movie) being offered up literally every other week. Have we forgotten about the other action movies that have come out this year? You know, all of these movies: http://www.themovieinsider.com/movie-releases/action/2010/ Clash of the Titans, Kick-Ass, Book of Eli, The Losers, Iron Man 2 (not necessarily brainless, but certainly an action movie), Robin Hood, Prince of Persia, The A-Team, Predators, etc etc. I saw and enjoyed several of these movies myself, but I don't really give them much credit for being lasting relics of cinema or art. Let me think of the mainstream movies I saw this year that WILL have a lasting impression on me: Inception, most importantly, and to a much lesser extent, Scott Pilgrim. There were a couple of other movies that I'll probably remember fondly/own on DVD down the line (Girl With the Dragon Tattoo), but those were arthouse/limited distribution.

My point is this: defending a bad movie because from attack because being silly, mindless entertainment is just "part of the genre" is not a very well-reasoned argument. It's not possible to make an action movie that is also an intelligent, interesting movie - like Inception - but it's something we as moviegoers should hope for. Sure, you can't hope for an Inception every weekend, but cut the fucking guy some slack. If you had to watch the movies that came out every weekend and pick one to review for an audience of gamers, wouldn't you get pissed off at a bad movie every now and again, especially if an interesting film that tried to break out of the expected Hollywood action/comic book movie mold got stomped by it at the box office?
 

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Well that's a bummer. No other good movies than scott pilgrim out apparently. But I dunno. I'm not sure what to think, since I didn't see it. Still, I didn't want to see it that much in the first place
 

Kavonde

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Gorram, Bob! 23 pages of comments. You and Spoony both seem to be taking a lot of heat for not liking this movie.

Me? I'm skipping it. I considered seeing it tonight, but I decided to see Scott Pilgrim again instead. I do not regret my decision in the slightest.

Hell, I'll think I'll go see it again next weekend.
 

RDubayoo

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Well, I saw the movie, and I have to say that while I didn't hate it as much as as Movie Bob, it didn't really connect with me, either. Sure, it had a big bad fight scene at the end, but I didn't care about any of the characters involved or what they were fighting for. I think part of the problem was that, with the possible exception of Dolph Lundgren and Jet Li, everyone involved was playing as themselves and not a character. I don't think it helps that the movie has marketed itself largely by its stars' names and reputations. I mean, just look at the poster for the movie. It's a list of names! Before you say, "Doesn't every big movie do that?" please understand that I don't think this problem is confined to the Expendables, but it is especially pronounced, here.

Also, Bob may have had a point about at least some of the people who went to see this movie. When I saw it, there was a bunch of mongoloids sitting in the row behind me, hooting and hollering like frat boys, even when Austin's character (whoever he was) punched the female character. Hell, they REALLY liked that. It depresses me to think that those guys were precisely the demographic the movie was targeting.

Why did I watch it? Well, people I knew were seeing it, and I just went along. I could have waited to see it on DVD, though.
 

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Everything else aside the Van Damme post credit annotation is not really accurate.

Stallone said in an interview and he said that Van Damme did not want to partake because he was supposed to loose a fight with Jet Li. Then Jean Claude said he wanted to make a movie with Sttallone about a monk (Jean Claudia) who saves latinos in LA.

So it seems that it was rather Van Damme's stupidity than a wise choice of his.
 

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I actually saw this movie because I am a fan of most of these actors. I think my biggest problem was there were too many big actors in this movie with too little to do for each. Most of these actors can hold a movie by itself but with all of them together it is a huge shitpool of a movie...I so wanted more.