Escape to the Movies: The Expendables

[Axolotl]

That's probably the biggest flaw in most people bitching about Bob. It's OKAY for him to rant on Twilight because most of the Escapist hates that too but they suddenly remember their critical analysis when he bashes on a bad movie that some people on this site happened to like? Bad idea, as it just comes off as being opportunistic and petty.

I think the big difference is that with his Twilight review he simply attacked the movie, the part people are being annoyed at in The Expendbles review is where he insuts the people who watched the film. I he savagely attacks a movie I like I can just shrug and move on, that's just a difference in opinion but to actually insult people over their choice of film? That's going to offend people.

And geuss what? Being offended is a perfectly reasonable reaction to being insulted.

 

[andy_wolfe]

that sctually would be pretty interesting.
bob doing a game and yahtzee doing a movie i mean.
and also. whoa! some folks is pissed riht the fuck off huh? well far be it from me to interfere. carry on

 

[Will Lorus]

That's probably the biggest flaw in most people bitching about Bob. It's OKAY for him to rant on Twilight because most of the Escapist hates that too but they suddenly remember their critical analysis when he bashes on a bad movie that some people on this site happened to like? Bad idea, as it just comes off as being opportunistic and petty.

I think the big difference is that with his Twilight review he simply attacked the movie, the part people are being annoyed at in The Expendbles review is where he insuts the people who watched the film. I he savagely attacks a movie I like I can just shrug and move on, that's just a difference in opinion but to actually insult people over their choice of film? That's going to offend people.

And geuss what? Being offended is a perfectly reasonable reaction to being insulted.

As has been previously stated though, Yahtzee has said worse things before to his audience and nobody appears to mind because he's funnier. It seems odd that people are alright if somebody insults them by calling them a sheep or a drooling idiot providing they also make them laugh. Either way, the insult still stands.

That said, I do think that Bob was a bit sloppy with his own comedic jabs this week, some comments of this I think have been taken as completely serious when they were intended as tongue in cheek.

 

[Spydiggity]

great review, but i find it odd that you hated this so much but actually liked the a-team. considering the a-team was not only all the things you said here, but it actually does most of it worse.

 

[Spink]

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You've really hit the nail on the head. Funny people get really upset over this whole thing because they hate the fact Bob likes a film they don't and dislikes a film they do. That's when they start taking comments made in jest seriously. It's really disappointing to see just how defensive people can get over movie preferences. Honestly all the people who just decided to rip on Bob attack as viciously as if Bob himself had come over sat and their room insulted them kicked their cat and left. I mean Jesus people it's the internet and he's on a video game-centric website. This isn't the New Yorker.

Don't start complaining about professionalism and how he hurt your feelings. If he wanted to do reviews of that kind he would, not here but somewhere else.

 

[William Dickbringer]

You got beat up a lot in high school didn't you?

Rule one of the escapist:
Don't insult people, only say why they're wrong.
Rule two of the escapist:
It's generally not wise to insult people who WORK here.
Rule three of the escpist: Post an avatar so I feel better.
Have a nice stay here, however long.



OT: I am sad about Scott Pilgrim, but I don't feel it gives you the right to insult everyone who liked "The expendables" Bob.

Um, so Movie Bob is free to insult anyone who may like this movie? He is free to vent his nerd rage with half-assed stereo types? He is also free to revel in the self-righteousness of his Scott Pilgrim praise while literally calling the people who liked The Expendables morons. Yet I can't make an observation on regarding his obvious insecurities about his own machismo? Give me a break.

As is often the case on the Escapist, people are far to willing to dish it out yet completely incapable of taking ANY criticism, actual or in your case perceived. The probability that you and Movie Bob were both geek/nerds in high school is pretty darn high IMO and with such a thin skin I feel it perfectly logical to question your overall safety during the high school years. I didn't say I wanted Bob to get beat up, but rather that he seems to have some deep rooted psychological issues from being bullied as a teen. Which is why he loves a movie like Scott Pilgrim where, the hero nerd from every nerd movie in the past 3 years, once again triumphs over everything, and is no more poignant or realistic than the action shoot-em ups and one-liners in the Expendables.

Oh and Rule number 4 of The Escapist:

Don't question the validity of a persons opinion, as they have just as much right to it as you do to yours, especially when they have been participating, reading and supporting the site for more than a year longer than you...

well he does work here so it kinda gives him some leniency on insults (look at yahtzee he insults people on a regular basis) but when members do it it could be viewed as trolling and get you put on probation or banned

Im arguing on the internet! Look at me! Im a valuable member of the intelectual disscourse! That movie bob dosen't have a patch on me, he should apologise for having an opinion!

I would rather say this about EVERYONE'S arguments

 

[samonix]

Look, Bob. I've defended you more than I need have, you're probably one of my favourite movie critics but please, for the love of God, accept that not every movie has to be this artistic piece, with amazing acting, original set pieces and have an important message behind them. Some movies are just meant to be enjoyable to sit through. Salt was this and you appeared to like that even if there were two reasons attached to Jolie that probably helped your opinion along the way.

And please, stop stating that everyone who likes a movie you don't is worthless. Transformers, Book of Eli, and now Expendables - some people just like to sit through a movie that's brainless. Whilst they're not that good, stating that everyone who likes them is pretty much wrong is just arrogant and pretentious.

Not everyone who likes bad action movies is this douchebag frat boy, who can't tell the difference between an etch-a-sketch and a Da Vinci. Just accept that occasionally people don't see things the way you do, because you're starting to become insufferable.

THANK YOU! Someone really needed to say this.

 

[Normalgamer]

You got beat up a lot in high school didn't you?

Rule one of the escapist:
Don't insult people, only say why they're wrong.
Rule two of the escapist:
It's generally not wise to insult people who WORK here.
Rule three of the escpist: Post an avatar so I feel better.
Have a nice stay here, however long.



OT: I am sad about Scott Pilgrim, but I don't feel it gives you the right to insult everyone who liked "The expendables" Bob.

Um, so Movie Bob is free to insult anyone who may like this movie? He is free to vent his nerd rage with half-assed stereo types? He is also free to revel in the self-righteousness of his Scott Pilgrim praise while literally calling the people who liked The Expendables morons. Yet I can't make an observation on regarding his obvious insecurities about his own machismo? Give me a break.

As is often the case on the Escapist, people are far to willing to dish it out yet completely incapable of taking ANY criticism, actual or in your case perceived. The probability that you and Movie Bob were both geek/nerds in high school is pretty darn high IMO and with such a thin skin I feel it perfectly logical to question your overall safety during the high school years. I didn't say I wanted Bob to get beat up, but rather that he seems to have some deep rooted psychological issues from being bullied as a teen. Which is why he loves a movie like Scott Pilgrim where, the hero nerd from every nerd movie in the past 3 years, once again triumphs over everything, and is no more poignant or realistic than the action shoot-em ups and one-liners in the Expendables.

Oh and Rule number 4 of The Escapist:

Don't question the validity of a persons opinion, as they have just as much right to it as you do to yours, especially when they have been participating, reading and supporting the site for more than a year longer than you...

I got you to respond, must have pressed some major buttons. Note: I didn't register until I felt like trying out the forums, I'm 100% positive I've been here longer silently.
Ohhh you decided to insult me because I was giving you some friendly advice, you know what's even funnier? I can prove I'm not the negative stereotype "Nerd", while you seem quite anger-prone over the interwebz. Take a chill pill, I didn't insult you once, Movie Bob may have upset you, but you should still remain calm and collected, post why you don't agree instead of "RAWR BLAND OVERUSED INTERNET JOKE X"

 

[|.|HaL]

Thank you Bob.
You found a way into my heart when you proclaimed Robocop as one of your all time favourite films and then again by giving Gone Baby Gone it's due props. This review has sealed the deal - you're now officially my "main man" of film .. stuff.

 

[captainwillies]

meh Scott Pilgrim will definitely become a cult film while the expendables become forgotten.

 

[Ryan Hodros]

What I would like to see (and I'm not posting this in any kind of intentionally inflammatory way here) is an unironic Michael Cera action film. I'm not talking about an action film where skinny Michael Cera plays Michael Cera and CGI plays the part of "the action."

I mean, I would like to see him take a good 18 months off from acting, and get together with a half dozen trainers and put on some serious muscle. I'm talking like fifty pounds of muscle. A "we're concerned about you Michael" amount of muscle. Like Christian Bale in "the Machinist" but in reverse.

But, and this is the kicker, I would like for him to still be the "awkward guy around girls" type.

In this movie, action would play a very small part in the film. It would open with a blockbuster action sequence with Michael Cera as a cop chasing down bad guys, involving cars, helicopters, explosions, etc. Something out of a Michael Bay wet dream. And he'd kick major ass. I mean, guns blazing, fist punching, door-kicking, no non-sense action. And the obligatory "fight with a huge guy" which he wins by killing the guy with an axe or a chainsaw or something.

I recognize this will be hard to do unironically, but you have to picture Michael Cera on Van Damme or something in order to get the full effect. It should be noted that he won't have his normal hipster haircut. He'll have a very straight-edge 'do. No moustache.

The next 45 minutes to an hour will be the typical Michael Cera fare: him awkwardly trying to ply his awkwardness as a strength around girls. Maybe his cop friends will drag him to a club, and a hot girl with blue hair will spill a drink on him, and rather than getting mad, he'll apologize a million times. Then they'll get to talking, and they'll laugh a lot, but ultimately he'll go home alone. This will be followed by him obsessing over the girl.

At the one-fifteen mark, he'll get a call from the girl, and they'll start dating. A montage will ensue, where we will be shown that he is "getting the girl."

Then, at 1-30, bam. She gets kidnapped. He has to go on a rampage to save her. And save her he does! But here's the kicker: She winds up with his partner, a skinny, geeky, Michael Cera-esque dude who has some weird quirk (like he can't keep his pants up or something).

That would be awesome. Totally awesome.

 

[AvsJoe]

Well, for the first time since January's Edge of Darkness I wholly disagreed with MovieBob. Sure it was empty, but I thought the Expendables was damn good fun. The acting was par and the story was unspectacular but the action was ridiculous without being too comically over-the-top. There are memorable moments in my eyes, like Stone Cold's spear and Terry Crews' mowing down the baddies with whatever the hell that thing was. I very much enjoyed this flick (4* of 5) and will definitely be among the masses to see the sequel, should it get made.

 

[robobengt]

Thank god he hated it. Now I can go watch it without hesitation. A man who likes G.I. Joe and doesn't like The Road? Whooo...He gets nothing right.

 

[Nomanslander]

That's probably the biggest flaw in most people bitching about Bob. It's OKAY for him to rant on Twilight because most of the Escapist hates that too but they suddenly remember their critical analysis when he bashes on a bad movie that some people on this site happened to like? Bad idea, as it just comes off as being opportunistic and petty.

I think the big difference is that with his Twilight review he simply attacked the movie, the part people are being annoyed at in The Expendbles review is where he insuts the people who watched the film. I he savagely attacks a movie I like I can just shrug and move on, that's just a difference in opinion but to actually insult people over their choice of film? That's going to offend people.

And geuss what? Being offended is a perfectly reasonable reaction to being insulted.

As has been previously stated though, Yahtzee has said worse things before to his audience and nobody appears to mind because he's funnier. It seems odd that people are alright if somebody insults them by calling them a sheep or a drooling idiot providing they also make them laugh. Either way, the insult still stands.

That said, I do think that Bob was a bit sloppy with his own comedic jabs this week, some comments of this I think have been taken as completely serious when they were intended as tongue in cheek.

People don't find Yahtzee offensive? Did you really just say that?

The reason no one talks back on the Yahtzee show as much anymore is because they're afraid he'll call them out on a video and make mamma jokes...lol

Anyone remember the SSBB fanmail vid? That was harsh, really harsh!

 

[Akalistos]

The sad thing is, they actually DID take a movie meant to be a PG-13 and made it R. The studio made to cuts to the Movie, one being PG-13 and the other being the one on screen now and let a test audience decide what would make more money. They wanted R, so the effect team added the same amount a gore a noise bleed has so it barely got an R rating.

In retrospect: Can you name a great action movie from the 80 that if full of blood? I love the Rambo series but even if you count the cuts on the heroes, you never see blood. Not like modern day action flick at least. There's even a joke INHot Shots! Part Deux where no enemies bleed. Even the one that got hit with a rocket become a "Tom and Jerry' Smear on the wall".

While that is true for a lot of old action movies, some really amped up the gore.

You seen Total Recall recently?

Yeah. Still little compared to modern flick... but that's not the point. Can a little red sticky substance make a movie bombed or succeed? Saying that it's sad is, you dismiss it for the gore only... at least according to your post and that is a sad thing indeed. It's like if i ***** on Red Dead Redemption because they didn't add a Lucky Luke costume in the unlockable (and they didn't).

 

[Akalistos]

People don't find Yahtzee offensive? Did you really just say that?

The reason no one talks back on the Yahtzee show as much anymore is because they're afraid he'll call them out on a video and make mamma jokes...lol

Anyone remember the SSBB fanmail vid? That was harsh, really harsh!

Ha! You are afraid that your Username will be mention in a video if you talk back to him? You are nuts! Listen Ca.re.ful.ly.

Nobody made a valid point in his reply. They attacked him. If you go back and listen to them, you'll see that he's making better points then the one he quoted. As for the fact that BOB look down on the people that watch THE EXPENDABLE, he's right. That movie isn't good by any stretch of imagination. Thing is, there's a audience for that (as do Vampire Suck and Movie Movie series). It's isn't as much as an insult toward the crowd as a question toward the crowd. Why didn't we checked Scott Pilgrim? How can a better movie overall (I mean look around, everyone love Scott) can bombed and the EXPENDABLE do good? (Which is a dumb, dumb flick that peoples kinda hate)

Also, note that i say PEOPLE and not CRITIC because I got a few User generated score website as favorite and this is where i pick that up.

 

[warthoggunner]

That 4 screenshots at 03:08

I see Equilibrium and Bourne.
But what are the other two?

 

[Nomanslander]

People don't find Yahtzee offensive? Did you really just say that?

The reason no one talks back on the Yahtzee show as much anymore is because they're afraid he'll call them out on a video and make mamma jokes...lol

Anyone remember the SSBB fanmail vid? That was harsh, really harsh!

Ha! You are afraid that your Username will be mention in a video if you talk back to him? You are nuts! Listen Ca.re.ful.ly.

Nobody made a valid point in his reply. They attacked him. If you go back and listen to them, you'll see that he's making better points then the one he quoted. As for the fact that BOB look down on the people that watch THE EXPENDABLE, he's right. That movie isn't good by any stretch of imagination. Thing is, there's a audience for that (as do Vampire Suck and Movie Movie series). It's isn't as much as an insult toward the crowd as a question toward the crowd. Why didn't we checked Scott Pilgrim? How can a better movie overall (I mean look around, everyone love Scott) can bombed and the EXPENDABLE do good? (Which is a dumb, dumb flick that peoples kinda hate)

Also, note that i say PEOPLE and not CRITIC because I got a few User generated score website as favorite and this is where i pick that up.

LOL, how about you listen up Ca.re.ful.ly.!Yeah no one made a valid point in that vid because Yahtzee picked all the dumbest replies, none of the constructive arguments which he should have done if he was a respectable critic that wanted to deal with negative feed back.

(If you don't believe me go back and read the actual thread for the SSBB review, it's full of constructive, polite, and sound criticism against Yahtzee, but did he use any of it to base his arguments in the video response? NO! Every 15 or so post you had one idiot picking his nose while typing "ZOMG, FUK U YAHTZZE, SSBB IS THE BESTEST OF GAMEZ EVA...YO!! and he used those beautiful minds to represent anyone that would argue against him.)

Yahtzee just wants to make himself look good by putting down others, sometimes he might be doing it for satirical reason but in most cases it's not, people here are just too much of a bunch of fanboys of his to willingly admit it.

Yahtzee is an ass, but people like him just the way he is.

Of course having two asses on escapist might be a bit too much for regular viewers here, and MovieBob does have his own weird taste in movie that not everyone could agree with. As for agreeing with Yahtzee, heck, this site's audience was mostly built up by the introduction to his videos and taste, I don't know if you've noticed it but there sure is a lot of Valve/Silent Hill 2/Saint's Row 2 fans on this site and all in good reason.

There's also a lot of people that aren't but like I said before, we're all use to Yahtzee, and deep down MovieBob comes across as a bit of a Yahtzee poser, so criticism here will tend to be a lot harsher on his judgement and poncy attitude.

-_-

Oh and both Expendables and Scotty "same old-Cera hipster dipshit" Pilgrim Vs the World....sucked! Truth be told I just should have rewatched Inception again instead of these two movies, but I guess I'm just a dumb sheep in line to get my processed cheese so forgive me!

bBAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!



=P

 

[Akalistos]

People don't find Yahtzee offensive? Did you really just say that?

The reason no one talks back on the Yahtzee show as much anymore is because they're afraid he'll call them out on a video and make mamma jokes...lol

Anyone remember the SSBB fanmail vid? That was harsh, really harsh!

Ha! You are afraid that your Username will be mention in a video if you talk back to him? You are nuts! Listen Ca.re.ful.ly.

Nobody made a valid point in his reply. They attacked him. If you go back and listen to them, you'll see that he's making better points then the one he quoted. As for the fact that BOB look down on the people that watch THE EXPENDABLE, he's right. That movie isn't good by any stretch of imagination. Thing is, there's a audience for that (as do Vampire Suck and Movie Movie series). It's isn't as much as an insult toward the crowd as a question toward the crowd. Why didn't we checked Scott Pilgrim? How can a better movie overall (I mean look around, everyone love Scott) can bombed and the EXPENDABLE do good? (Which is a dumb, dumb flick that peoples kinda hate)

Also, note that i say PEOPLE and not CRITIC because I got a few User generated score website as favorite and this is where i pick that up.

LOL, how about you listen up Ca.re.ful.ly.!Yeah no one made a valid point in that vid because Yahtzee picked all the dumbest replies, none of the constructive arguments which he should have done if he was a respectable critic that wanted to deal with negative feed back.

What good criticism. Here, tell me one good criticism that could have been put to support SSBB. I have read the comments. I have search those username that did it. None were more friendly if not for those who agree with him, but all bring some criticism about either his review or him.

But no, Yahtzee just wants to make himself look good by putting down others, sometimes he might be doing it for satirical reason but in most cases it's not, people here are just too much of a bunch of fanboys of his to willingly admit it.

Yahtzee is an ass, but people like him just the way he is.

Beside the dickhead moment which is justify because he call him a twat. Yeah, what work for you should also work for a guy that do sarcastic review on the web. And don't get High and Mighty because your basically doing right now what he did. So, call me a douche while i savor the irony.

Wow, i'm off track. Beside the dickhead moment, he didn't insulted anyone except a mother. And a mother of a grown up kid. If the Twilight Mom have thought me anything, they will boast the fact that she had sex with someone that half her age. So the insulting part isn't because he lashing on bad reply but because people feel enraged when he doesn't agree. He tied all that up nicely in his video and i recommend you to see it once again! (It's my favorite and i watch it everyday.)

Of course having too asses on escapist might be a bit too much for regular viewers here,

Yeah, people don't seem to listen well before spewing nonsense. Alto, he's enraged because it's a fight between Style and Substance and Blandness and Blandness WON. WHY!

and MovieBob does have he's own weird taste in movie that not everyone could agree with.

Taste as in Everyone has and it's not debatable because it can't be. We love the thing we love. And that make that phrase stupid and pointless.

As for agreeing with Yahtzee, heck, this site's audience was mostly built up by the introduction to his videos and taste, I don't know if you've noticed it but there sure is a lot of Valve/Silent Hill 2/Saint's Row 2 fans on this site and all in good reason.

Yeah, because they are good game. I have played all of them and i can safely said that they couldn't make them better. Valve did great game and are now releasing old classic through their system of online distribution. I never finish Silent Hill 2 on my PC because I'm scared shitless every time i play that game for more than a hour. Saint's Row 2 has improved over everything that failed in GTA4. It's the first Open world game that i have legitimately had fun playing (since then, i found RED DEAD REDEMPTION, the second game i enjoyed).

Like Yahtzee said: "Do you really need a authority to give you a simple yay or nay?" No! Those game have a following base on their own merit. To tell otherwise, have asked every gamer why they love them and that they reply that it's because of Yahtzee. Since those option are impossible due to time, I'm willing to bet you just pull that one out. Well, I'm nothing if not fair. Prove it and i will grant you your point.

There's also a lot of people that also aren't but like I said before, we're all use to Yahtzee, and deep down MovieBob comes across as a bit of a Yahtzee poser, so criticism here will tend to be a lot harsher on his judgment and poncy attitude.

Na! Having follow him way before his time on the escapist, i can safely say he doesn't want to emulate Yahtzee but provoke thought. That's his main goal. He's not the kind to say FU to everything, he need to understand. When he can't, that's when the blame hammer hit everyone he feel deserve it. It's piss him up, and so do I. I have brush off Pilgrim for it's artwork before and when i pick the comic up again because someone spoiled a awesome part. I power through until I got comfortable with the art. It's a great story, funny and well written. That piss me right the f' up to know that people prefer A dying Stalone over some Original story. No joke, pick any movie and i'm sure i can name 7 other with the very same plot. New thing is good. It's what brought us away from the cesspit that was the middle age. If not, we will still be banging two rock together to make fire... or whatever was the pronunciation of that by cavemen.

Oh and both Expendables and Scotty same old-Cera hipster dipshit Pilgrim sucked

I won't debate over your taste, since it can't be done. No, i can say that you are trying to be like Yahtzee by spewing hatred and insult on something you don't like. Funny, you seem so eager to burn the man down while doing the exact same thing.

....truth be told I just should have rewatched Inception again instead of these two movies.

So what? Want me to be sorry for you?

Edit: I jump over a paragraph. Now, it's corrected.

 

[Jeans44]

He sounded super butt hurt that scott pilgram tanked, I almost always like his reviews but bob acted like a complete douche in this review. Why the fuck are reviewers going so easy on scot pilgram? I dont want to see cera the hipster douchebag gamer wannabe try to impress me with game refrences for an hour or two, are gamers really this easily pandered too? Oh and I cant believe he called everyone who watches Expendables "sheep" Get the fuck off your high horse, everybody whos raving about SP is just as bad. The only diffrence is that Expendables has a wider audince and did better in the box office, they have the same stragedy for selling tickets i.e people rembering things. So if I have to choose one pandering movie I think I will pick The Expendables, its way better than karate fighting hipsters tossing out game refernces.