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MB202

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You know, I'd like MovieBob to do a response video or response article to the comments on this video. Only unlike Yahtzee's SSBB fanmail video, he chooses legitimate criticism.
 

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One of the first times i truly disagree. There was alot of blood... alot of ...body parts and explosions and guns and fighting. There was some stuff that wasn't that great like some of the effects were definitely CGI (maybe that's what you meant, Rambo's gore WAS much much much better for sure). But any how... friends liked it, i liked it for what it was, and my girlfriend loved it, high fived me for the Jet Li/Stathom Tag team kill. Not the greatest movie ever for sure, but it certainly wasn't worse than alot of purely nothing but action movies.
 

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Bob, I get the anger and all but Jesus just because someone may of wanted to see this over Scott Pilgrim doesn't make them a meat head asshole.

I haven't seen the Expendables yet (I still plan on seeing this movie), and I saw Scott Pilgrim twice in theaters but the problem with Scott Pilgrim is anyone who didn't grow up on Nintendo won't get it. Despite how brilliant it is, it was just too narrow of a market to make money.

I usually side a lot with your reviews, but there is seriously no need for shit talking anyone who would wanna see this movie. That's just poor form coming from a movie critic who embraces silly movies with a good time in mind.

I get it. It wasn't all that good, a much better movie should of made more money, etc. Hell even insulting the movie is fine, but the sweeping assumption that every person who saw and enjoyed (or would be interested in) this movie is some collar popping, steroid taking douche bag is about as mature as when a critic says the sweeping assumption that every person who saw and enjoyed (or would be interested in) Scott Pilgrim vs The World is a immature virgin basement dweller who can't put down the controller for 5 minutes to learn how to talk to a girl.
 

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usually love the reviews, but have to say that this one was way off the bat. think ye were mostly just pissed off that scott pilgrim didnt do well.
went to see it there last night and i feckin loved the film. there was only really one dodgey blood scene. but you dont need buckets of blood to make an good action movie, and this waya good men ona mission balls to teh wall action movie.
so if you like all the classis cheesy action movies of the 80's go see this as you will love it.

oh and movie bob you need to take a break and get over yourself.
 

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MB202 said:
You know, I'd like MovieBob to do a response video or response article to the comments on this video. Only unlike Yahtzee's SSBB fanmail video, he chooses legitimate criticism.
Ideally, you're dead on the money, but it's more likely he'll dismiss this thread as whining on our part and move on to lower and more disgusting and irrational places.
 

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I like it when he talks confused in his videos.

"You know...I...I...I cant believe....like....wait"

With the constant whispering tone. Comedy gold.
 

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Starke said:
MB202 said:
You know, I'd like MovieBob to do a response video or response article to the comments on this video. Only unlike Yahtzee's SSBB fanmail video, he chooses legitimate criticism.
Ideally, you're dead on the money, but it's more likely he'll dismiss this thread as whining on our part and move on to lower and more disgusting and irrational places.
I think MovieBob is better than that.
 

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MB202 said:
Starke said:
MB202 said:
You know, I'd like MovieBob to do a response video or response article to the comments on this video. Only unlike Yahtzee's SSBB fanmail video, he chooses legitimate criticism.
Ideally, you're dead on the money, but it's more likely he'll dismiss this thread as whining on our part and move on to lower and more disgusting and irrational places.
I think MovieBob is better than that.
There was a time I would have agreed with you, but, after his recent videos, I don't think so. He's simplifying down the entire audience for a film, including many of his viewers, pejoratively, and throwing a five minute tantrum.

As for the "more disgusting", look at the Salt review again.
 

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I still watch and for the most part enjoy bobs reviews, I also know this comment will have no bearing whatsoever on anything other than putting forward my 2p.

I lost much of my ability to take bob credibly when he practically worshipped Watchmen and said 2012 was a good film.

I didn't see them that way, I'm sure some do and it's everyone's right to enjoy what they want to (so long as it's not grating babies for a baby and tomato sandwich). But I feel that a critique of something should present a more balanced and informed perspective with a light sprinkling of subjectiveness to keep the review/critique spicy. The way he wanked over those films you'd think they where an FHM shoot of Angelina Jolie and Scarlett Johansson in bath of jelly. As a critique he shouldn't be doing that.

While I vehemently disagree on the quality of those films I wouldn't knock someone for liking them and if I where paid to critique them I would give a balanced review.

Harry over on AICN has gone down the same route (of being strangely self 'unaware' and too subjective) though it's easier to see there because there's other critiques to compare against.

I know quality is both a subjective and objective concept and levels of opinion in both vary on many factors such as personal taste and ability to suspend disbelief and so on, but to out right insult people over this is something I grew out of when I realised it's a douche thing to do.

Give Yahtzee this credit when he insults someone it's not only from a highly self aware perspective but he has his tongue firmly in cheek.
 

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Starke said:
MB202 said:
Starke said:
MB202 said:
You know, I'd like MovieBob to do a response video or response article to the comments on this video. Only unlike Yahtzee's SSBB fanmail video, he chooses legitimate criticism.
Ideally, you're dead on the money, but it's more likely he'll dismiss this thread as whining on our part and move on to lower and more disgusting and irrational places.
I think MovieBob is better than that.
There was a time I would have agreed with you, but, after his recent videos, I don't think so. He's simplifying down the entire audience for a film, including many of his viewers, pejoratively, and throwing a five minute tantrum.

As for the "more disgusting", look at the Salt review again.
Yeah, I never did care for his Salt review, either...

Maybe you have a point, but I still want him to address the complaints, and not be funny or ironic about it like he did when he addressed the complaints of "him only saying and doing controversial things just to get attention" in his Alice in Wonderland review.
 

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lead sharp said:
I lost much of my ability to take bob credibly when he practically worshipped Watchmen and said 2012 was a good film.
Honestly, given how much of the content was carried over, I can't really disagree with him on the subject of Watchmen. Though, I'm pretty sure you couldn't actually teach classes on films with it.

lead sharp said:
Give Yahtzee this credit when he insults someone it's not only from a highly self aware perspective but he has his tongue firmly in cheek.
The other thing with Yahtzee is, he's making critiques. He mocks what he's playing, and in that sense, you're right, his tongue is firmly in his cheek, but he's also pointing out legitimate problems with the games (or at least the ones I've played). What we got here was less of a review, and more of a tantrum.

MB202 said:
Yeah, I never did care for his Salt review, either...

Maybe you have a point, but I still want him to address the complaints, and not be funny or ironic about it like he did when he addressed the complaints of "him only saying and doing controversial things just to get attention" in his Alice in Wonderland review.
I may not be giving him enough credit, that's true. But, after he goes off on Transformers 2 for it's testicle joke with Devastator, his virtual masturbation in Salt, his eight reasons to watch DoA, and his near masturbation humor in Iron Man 2 over Scarlet Johansson, strike me as more than a tad bit hypocritical, and the fact that he keeps doing this is really burning through my patience for him rapidly.

So, I do apologize if I'm being too cynical, but, based on what I've seen from him so far, that's my prestidigitation[footnote]I'm going to feel really stupid if the spellchecker or my own brain f'ed up the meaning of this one.[/footnote] on the subject.
 

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I shall remember this video as when MovieBob became AngryBob.

Given the movie has its flaws, but seriously its not that bad of a movie that you effectively spend all your review time just telling people not to see it. Infact its actually a fun movie. If you can enjoy Avatar (and you obviously did) theres no reason you can't enjoy this.
 

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Starke said:
lead sharp said:
I lost much of my ability to take bob credibly when he practically worshipped Watchmen and said 2012 was a good film.
Honestly, given how much of the content was carried over, I can't really disagree with him on the subject of Watchmen. Though, I'm pretty sure you couldn't actually teach classes on films with it.

lead sharp said:
Give Yahtzee this credit when he insults someone it's not only from a highly self aware perspective but he has his tongue firmly in cheek.
The other thing with Yahtzee is, he's making critiques. He mocks what he's playing, and in that sense, you're right, his tongue is firmly in his cheek, but he's also pointing out legitimate problems with the games (or at least the ones I've played). What we got here was less of a review, and more of a tantrum.

MB202 said:
Yeah, I never did care for his Salt review, either...

Maybe you have a point, but I still want him to address the complaints, and not be funny or ironic about it like he did when he addressed the complaints of "him only saying and doing controversial things just to get attention" in his Alice in Wonderland review.
I may not be giving him enough credit, that's true. But, after he goes off on Transformers 2 for it's testicle joke with Devastator, his virtual masturbation in Salt, his eight reasons to watch DoA, and his near masturbation humor in Iron Man 2 over Scarlet Johansson, strike me as more than a tad bit hypocritical, and the fact that he keeps doing this is really burning through my patience for him rapidly.

So, I do apologize if I'm being too cynical, but, based on what I've seen from him so far, that's my prestidigitation[footnote]I'm going to feel really stupid if the spellchecker or my own brain f'ed up the meaning of this one.[/footnote] on the subject.
Your not being too cynical trust me bob comes across (FHM EVERY MONTH sorry sorry had to...) as some one in dire need of a girlfriend, or at least some one to just hold it for a few minutes.

Yeah, I mean OK I thought Watchmen was an un-watchable mess but if someone likes it I'm not going to call them out on it. Agree on the Yahtzee front to. His stance on JRPG's I think is hysterical (and in a lot of cases spot on) but I still enjoy them and would indeed like to sit down and debate over them with him for shits and giggles.

In fact you could see it that way. Yahtzee; you could sit down and enjoy the hell out of a debate with him and come away feeling you've at the very least had a good conversation. With bob you would sit there and get insulted for five minutes and come away feeling icky.
 

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In hindsight, it's kinda hilarious how out of proportions this has gone.

Certainly didn't expect this to be taken to over 1000 comments.
 

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Well, my second post here is this. After watching the movie "The Expendables" it reminded me of a game that not only Movie Bob hated, but other critics didn't like as well. But this character I really liked and so did other fans of his games, Nathan Drake aka Uncharted. To me this character was one of the most honest to himself character than others during his time. He can be a sarcastic butt because he wants to be a sarcastic butt. He loves women and isn't afraid of the fact. The way everyone communicated in the movie "The Expendables" reminded me so much about how Nathan Drake spoke with his friends and vice versa.

To put this short. If you really liked the character Nathan Drake than you will like the characters of The Expendables and enjoy the movie.
 

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Starke said:
lead sharp said:
I lost much of my ability to take bob credibly when he practically worshipped Watchmen and said 2012 was a good film.
Honestly, given how much of the content was carried over, I can't really disagree with him on the subject of Watchmen. Though, I'm pretty sure you couldn't actually teach classes on films with it.

lead sharp said:
Give Yahtzee this credit when he insults someone it's not only from a highly self aware perspective but he has his tongue firmly in cheek.
The other thing with Yahtzee is, he's making critiques. He mocks what he's playing, and in that sense, you're right, his tongue is firmly in his cheek, but he's also pointing out legitimate problems with the games (or at least the ones I've played). What we got here was less of a review, and more of a tantrum.

MB202 said:
Yeah, I never did care for his Salt review, either...

Maybe you have a point, but I still want him to address the complaints, and not be funny or ironic about it like he did when he addressed the complaints of "him only saying and doing controversial things just to get attention" in his Alice in Wonderland review.
I may not be giving him enough credit, that's true. But, after he goes off on Transformers 2 for it's testicle joke with Devastator, his virtual masturbation in Salt, his eight reasons to watch DoA, and his near masturbation humor in Iron Man 2 over Scarlet Johansson, strike me as more than a tad bit hypocritical, and the fact that he keeps doing this is really burning through my patience for him rapidly.

So, I do apologize if I'm being too cynical, but, based on what I've seen from him so far, that's my prestidigitation[footnote]I'm going to feel really stupid if the spellchecker or my own brain f'ed up the meaning of this one.[/footnote] on the subject.
Just so I'm clear, I hate how MovieBob praises movie for the hot woman in them. It's like the whole review stops just so he can ogle the women in that movie, and to me that makes him look stupid in the process. He's supposed to be this intelligent guy who looks into stuff too much for a live, but here...

...Also, what does DoA stand for, again?
 

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There is a trend B-level horror movie began at some point that is a trend I freaking hate and as you know, is a trend that shows no sign of stopping any time soon.

The basic part of the trend is: a ridiculously hot girl at some point in the movie will show off her ridiculously hot body, usually her exposed breasts. Almost immediately after that happens, the ridiculously hot girl will be killed in the bloodiest manner possible.

I'm not sure if all horror movie directors at the beginning of this trend were Puritans or something; but I got the impression early on that the director was trying to get viewers to associate the pleasurable feeling one associates with the sight of a beautiful woman naked with the unpleasant emotion of seeing someone killed. It really did feel like the directors were trying to condition us to associate the unpleasant emotion with the site of a naked woman. Go on, tell me I'm completely off base here! (I'm not, but you're welcome to try)

This trend got so widespread that I have sworn off all B-level horror movies completely. Anyone who sees Piranha 3D will be able to affirm that at least one beautiful woman gets bloodily killed almost immediately after getting her tits out (in fact, I think Bob said just that)

Personally, I don't want to have to fight the urge to puke any time I see a pretty girl, and I don't want to keep a barf bucket next to my porn collection. I don't know why this trend was started, but fuck this trend and fuck all the directors who still follow this trend. I'm sure Piranha 3D is a perfectly serviceable movie, but it follows this fucked-up trend, so fuck it also.
 

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Mmmm Okay, having been away all week on a holiday with the family... I'm currently catching up with the goings on. So I watched the review and disagreed, read some of the comments and well... Ouch. There's 32 pages of this and I'm not reading them all. I'm at page 3 and I'm going no further than this.

So, with that said, I'm not going to criticise Bob or start launching names about. I'm just going to give my opinion of the movie. Which should be pretty brief.

I thought the first half of the movie was boring trash. I thought most of the movie was boring trash to be honest. They spent way too much time with the story for a film like this. The film starts feeling pretentious, as if Stallone was actually being serious with this movie. I'm sat watching stuff I don't care about... I don't care much about these characters... I just want to see them shooting and hitting shit while throwing out cheesy one liners. I wanted to see unnecessary amounts of gore, impossible stunts and really big explosion. I didn't get any of this until the final act (Which I enjoyed).

The whole first and second acts had me bored to tears setting up the characters... Which isn't what I was expecting when I watched the trailer or read about the movie. When I see a list of 80's action heroes along with the heroes of the 2000's on the cast list... The last thing I expect from that movie is boredom. Again, as said, Stallone seemed as if he was actually trying to sell this movie as more than a testosterone filled ride. Which the movie shouldn't have been. That's not to say Stallone can't write serious gripping movies -Points to Rocky- I'm just saying that he can't have both a serious gripping movie while also having a testosterone filled ride... He can only have one or the other.

These type of films can be pulled off... However it takes a master to do so Robert Rodregues could pull some thing like this off... However Stallone doesn't seem to be able to.

I did like the final act though... I disagree with Bob on that one... I loved the final act, that was what the whole movie should have been like. I got my testosterone filled action, I got Randy Couture kicking the ever loving shit out of Stone Cold Steve Austin... I got impossible stunts... I really enjoyed that final act. As for the rest... No, it was shite. I'd give it 5/10.

Also I notice there's a lot of grief over the preference of A-Team. Well in A-Teams favour... I was never bored in that movie... That movie managed to set up interesting characters while keeping it entertaining.
 

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MB202 said:
Just so I'm clear, I hate how MovieBob praises movie for the hot woman in them. It's like the whole review stops just so he can ogle the women in that movie, and to me that makes him look stupid in the process. He's supposed to be this intelligent guy who looks into stuff too much for a live, but here...

...Also, what does DoA stand for, again?
Dead or Alive. It's a series of fighting games that was infamous back when dinosaurs ruled the earth for being one of the first with jiggle physics. Hilariously bad jiggle physics. Over time, that's become the defining trait of the series, so the film being nothing more than scantily clad women fighting one another somehow seems like an apt adaptation, if more than a bit exploitative.