The thing is that Gandolf didn't intend to stick with them all the way. He left them at the entrance to Mirkwood.FelixG said:
Escape to the Movies: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
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I know I am not gonna enjoy this as much as LOTR, that's a given considering I consider them almost perfect movies. The Hobbit should be good but the lack of practical effects make it look unrealistic IMO.
I was really scared that the movie was going to be ok.
But after seeing it, I can?t think of a better form of adapting the book.
Love the movie.
But after seeing it, I can?t think of a better form of adapting the book.
Love the movie.
i saw it on the opening midnight premiere in IMAX+3D+HFR
And it was amazing!
The 48fps makes things so clear and fluid...
Though a lifetime of "24fps = realtime" conditioning makes my brain think im watching a sped up film,
even though the motions occur at a normal pace.
This is both weird and interesting.
mostly since apperantly our brains can recognise framecounts and can associate a certain "speed" with it.
The strange thing is is that this does not occur with games running at 50fps (or even a varying fps)
My guess is that we just have to get through this and get used to the feeling,
This might however take a long time to ajust.
And it was amazing!
The 48fps makes things so clear and fluid...
Though a lifetime of "24fps = realtime" conditioning makes my brain think im watching a sped up film,
even though the motions occur at a normal pace.
This is both weird and interesting.
mostly since apperantly our brains can recognise framecounts and can associate a certain "speed" with it.
The strange thing is is that this does not occur with games running at 50fps (or even a varying fps)
My guess is that we just have to get through this and get used to the feeling,
This might however take a long time to ajust.
Yay for Bob liking Hobbit! Was there ever any doubt? 
And to quote everyones favorite daddy figure:
"Nooooooooooooo!"
The horrible argument of "is X fps better Y fps? Is Y fps even enough? Or is X fps just a waste of money and needless luxury?" is spreading from games to movies! Gods help us!
And to quote everyones favorite daddy figure:
"Nooooooooooooo!"
The horrible argument of "is X fps better Y fps? Is Y fps even enough? Or is X fps just a waste of money and needless luxury?" is spreading from games to movies! Gods help us!
Sylvester McCoy's in this? We've got the 7th Doctor involved?
This should bring in a nice cross-section of fans!
*sudden realization* Crap...I just gave some fanfictionist/fancomicist ideas, didn't I?!?
This should bring in a nice cross-section of fans!
*sudden realization* Crap...I just gave some fanfictionist/fancomicist ideas, didn't I?!?
Dude, relax. If you're worried about crossovers I can assure you that you are years late to that party.GamemasterAnthony said:
OT: Should be going to see it Sunday, I'm uncontrollably excited. Glad to hear most of the reviews are good, and I don't hink anywhere in my backwater area has the 48fps thing anyway, so that should be a non issue.
Can't wait!
Just got back from seeing this and I agree with everything Bob said except the pacing really felt off at times with the best comparison being The Fellowship of the Ring compared to the Extended Version. In extended FOTR, it felt they sacrificed the good pacing they had to slow things down (or grind them to a halt) to shove in scenes with extra back story/action/Fan Wank and the Hobbit feels exactly the same. You could probably have chopped 20 minutes without really losing anything.
Don't let that put you off though. I saw it in 3D at 24fps and while the 3D really works well, the darkening of it by the glasses is a bad thing when dealing with the fantastic New Zealand landscape.
Talking of New Zealand landscape, have fun playing "Location Spotting". I swear they reused outdoor areas seen in LOTR a couple of times at least.
Don't let that put you off though. I saw it in 3D at 24fps and while the 3D really works well, the darkening of it by the glasses is a bad thing when dealing with the fantastic New Zealand landscape.
Talking of New Zealand landscape, have fun playing "Location Spotting". I swear they reused outdoor areas seen in LOTR a couple of times at least.
that has to do more with how the frame is changing. in a movie that still uses reals (even digital to some extent) you can see scan lines (well your brain does, but the brain processes it, and tells you how fast it is going), but on a game the frame on the screen is being displayed, and then deleted, and replaced without anything moving (things on the screen can move, but there is nothing for the brain to process as in motion besides what is cognitively seen moving)rvdm88 said:
also there is still great debate as to whether the human brain can even process anything higher then 50fps (I know that 60 is a standard, but it has to do with if an image is inter-spliced onto one frame of a frame test (replacing a frame that should be there) will it be seen, or even recognized, and I think at last results it came back that above 50fps only about half the people saw/realized it. and it was because of this likelihood that people wouldn't be able to recognize everything, and in addition the cost of the cameras needed to actually record is why it took Soooooooo long for the film industry to move up the frame rate. while with games it's all a matter of controlling everything else that is going on besides the render (and simplifying the render itself because it is still considered the most expensive thing you do during any given frame)
the thing is that in games it is more an argument about other things like: stability, calculation density, and other logic stuff (also see post 33) while in a non 100% CGI film (still having real actors doing stuff) there is actually something to be said for cost (of equipment to film, having to update/upgrade theaters, and then having the difference be recognizable.dangoball said:Yay for Bob liking Hobbit! Was there ever any doubt?
And to quote everyones favorite daddy figure:
"Nooooooooooooo!"
The horrible argument of "is X fps better Y fps? Is Y fps even enough? Or is X fps just a waste of money and needless luxury?" is spreading from games to movies! Gods help us!
then when it comes to even computer animated, or hand draw film fps is also a thing because it has to do with how many screens need to be created, or how many essentially screen caps need to be taken then concatenated together to make the finished thing. technically this discussion actually holds more water in the realm of film then in video games (again post 33)
Sylvester mc coy is in this movie? Does he at any point in the movie rrrrrregenerate?
I?m worried my dad wants to go see this movie with me which considering how much he likes the book means he is not going to like all of the changes to the story.
I?m worried my dad wants to go see this movie with me which considering how much he likes the book means he is not going to like all of the changes to the story.
Kinda iffy on seeing this. On the one hand LOTR had a lot of great moments and was overall a enjoyable experience. On the other hand the most annoying aspect of middle earth (to me) was the hobbits, and this movie is literally titled a race that I really didn't like seeing.
I mean Frodo was fine, so was Sam, but the rest of them I wished stayed the hell away.
I mean Frodo was fine, so was Sam, but the rest of them I wished stayed the hell away.
Brilliant to see that Bob thinks it's good. I'm going to see this at the IMAX in London with my best friend next weekend. Can't wait! I'm still not sure about the whole "3 movies" thing; giving a child's story the same screen time as the LOTR trilogy doesn't seem justifiable.
Oh and FYI, Howard Shore doesn't disappoint with his soundtrack. I have the special edition and it's fantastic!
Oh and FYI, Howard Shore doesn't disappoint with his soundtrack. I have the special edition and it's fantastic!
...................................................SQUEE!!!!
Great, glad Jackson managed to pull it off, was alittle worried (after all, King Kong was good and all, but not on par with LotR and I was abit worried LotR was just a realllly great fluke).
Again, SQUEE
Great, glad Jackson managed to pull it off, was alittle worried (after all, King Kong was good and all, but not on par with LotR and I was abit worried LotR was just a realllly great fluke).
Again, SQUEE