Escape to the Movies: The Kings Speech

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rddj623

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One day this generation of old guard Academy voters will succumb to the inevitability of time. When that happens I will be interested to see if this structure of baiting for an Oscar stays true to form, or breaks down completely in favor of a new system. We'll just have to wait and see.
 

UberNoodle

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So he hasn't seen the film at all but he's ripping into it?

But anyway, how the hell would this guy know what the intent behind making this film was?
 

Dahemo

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Bob, I'm normally a massive fan and while we disagree on many points (a difference I relish)I plod over to the Escapist every Friday to get your take on the big release, often returning to your review once I have seen the film to compare notes, leaning back in my chair and mulling over your point of view versus my experience, which I'm positive was your intention (not only with At The Movies but also Big Picture).

However, the stars aligned in such a rare way that I have seen this film prior to your review, and I am sorry to say that I have been moved for the first time since watching your videos to come to the internet and voice my displeasure.

Let me provide some context: I'm a liberal, I'm anti-monarchist, I'm a theatre student with a penchant for Grotowski and Beckett, essentially I am everything this movie is not. Yet I was moved to tears by the film, had such a profound emotional reaction to the way the film presented me with the life of George VI that I could not help but be affected. You're quite correct in your assertion that "The King's Speech" is exactly the kind of picture the Academy likes, this does not preclude its dramatic impact or execution.

Let's face up to a simple truth, you and I, mano-a-mano, the Academy is a broken institution, like so many other old men populated governing bodies. Because of them, Sandra Bullock has an Oscar. In fact, "The Blind Side" is a perfect jumping off point.

Compare the two films for me. True life story, the protagonist has a serious impediment that must be overcome, there is a class divide, the protagonist overcomes and eventually triumphs. I could be talking about either one, yet I cannot honestly believe that you, a man whose opinion I respect, can honestly say to me that the two films are of comparable value.

The cinematography is exquisite, while the casting may "fit the bill", take it from an actor that it is top drawer. Your presentation of the Brits is a very post-colonial interpretation of what our actors offer American cinema, in reality the production should have occurred several years ago, but at the behest of the Queen Mother (Helena Bonham-Carter's character) it was not produced within her lifetime, and these are the contemporary actors most suited to the roles required.

I also quibble with your 'based on a true story" jab, the script is based upon the notes of the speech therapist and so could not possibly be referred to as gospel without incurring some serious legal flack.

I know this is like water off a duck's back, you don't care and probably won't read this. I haven't lost any respect for you, I shall return again eagerly anticipating your next installment, but for now let me say I believe you to be wrong, it's your opinion and you shine on, you crazy diamond, I wouldn't have it any other way. But I hope you see this and that I give you pause for thought, as you have done for me so many times. If you look again without Oscar connections I am positive you will see a great film that met the criteria you were looking for but is also a lot more...
 

leviadragon99

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That's actually quite depressing... that the bias of the academy causes them to ignore the best films and instead award those that revolve around themes that appeal to them directly...
 

Rocketboy13

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Honestly, if going for formula constructed scripts that are acting driven is the worst offense I could forgive the academy, but really the racism and sexism is what gets me. Look at "Blood Diamond" and tell me why Djimon Hounsou was nominated for best supporting actor when he is the central protagonist. Watch "true Grit" and tell me why Hailee Steinfeld, the main character is nominated for best supporting actor. This happens a lot.
 

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secretsantaone said:
The Kings Speech was seriously an awesome movie, it managed to be interesting and enjoyable without resorting to action and sex scenes. I think Bob's just annoyed because it wasn't some sci-fi or other 'geek culture' film that would justify his personal tastes.

I also don't get why he thinks 'based on a true story' is something bad in the slightest. This DID actually happen, it's a classic story of the great British underdog, something which seriously underpins British culture and makes for a fantastic film.
Of everything in your comment, the thing I took the most exception to was the phrase "without resorting to action and sex scenes", as if action is automatically a lower form of movie than drama. THAT is the attitude I and many others (Bob included, apparently) find so infuriating.

Let me say right now, however, that action scenes that manage to be a)exciting and b)deeper than "shit blows up" are few and far between, and sex scenes that aren't just shoehorned in for some extra titillation are even rarer (off the top of my head, I can only really think of Black Swan as an example of a sex scene that actually added something important to the movie), but that doesn't mean action is somehow inherently worse. Quite the contrary, that means that a director has to work extra hard to actually MAKE it good (though, in line with what I said earlier, that doesn't make good action better than drama anywhere but my own preferences).
 

NeoShinGundam

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DOWN WITH THE ACADEMY AWARDS!!!

Also, the fishing joke works on a number of levels, because oscars are a kind of fish: http://www.aqua-fish.net/imgs/fish/oscar-fish.jpg
 

matt87_50

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HEY!!!!! ... Rush is Australian.

but I'm going to assume he does a good British accent, so I'll let it slide...
 

Gunnyboy

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Rocketboy13 said:
Honestly, if going for formula constructed scripts that are acting driven is the worst offense I could forgive the academy, but really the racism and sexism is what gets me. Look at "Blood Diamond" and tell me why Djimon Hounsou was nominated for best supporting actor when he is the central protagonist. Watch "true Grit" and tell me why Hailee Steinfeld, the main character is nominated for best supporting actor. This happens a lot.
lol The studios push actors for certain categories. The Academy does not have to follow but they often do. Hailee being in Supporting gives her a better chance to win, that's why they pushed her there.

And disagree about Djimon; Leo is the arc of that movie.
 

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"And if it wasn't bad enough that he was Jewish, and retarded... he was an alcoholic"

Great episode, Bob. The Oscars really don't do their job, do they.
 

Andy of Comix Inc

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Actually they do. People vote for the film they feel deserves to win in each category and then everyone whines about how broken it all is because a movie they like didn?t win or wasn?t nominated at all.
No. You shouldn't be able to make an Oscar-worthy film by ticking off a list of tropes.
 

SeumasBates

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While I don't disagree that The King's Speech has many of the key elements looked for in the classic British Oscar winning mould (which Sandra Bullock in 'The Blind Side' is perhaps the American version of) I do reject that The King's Speech was a bland or boring film. Perhaps it's because I'm British and the speech in question was such an important moment in my nation's history, but I found the film rather engaging. Was it the deepest or most compelling film I've ever seen? No. But it did give a flavour of the events and the man who was reluctantly carried along by them, and I think it might encourage people to look more deeply into the story to get a closer look at the 'real' events the film portrays. More than that however, I think taken as a trilogy along with 'The Young Victoria' and 'The Queen' we get a royal triple bill which tells us more about our own society's changing perception of the Royals and the times in which they lived, even if they tell us little about the actual reality of those times.
 

Slimshad

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I don't care if he bashes the oscars, but that film was really freaking good. I don't believe it was created only to win oscars, because I enjoyed myself tenfold during that movie than I did while watching other "Oscar-Quality" movies. It is a fantastic picture, with fantastic writing, acting, and directing. It's informative, compelling, and heartfelt, so what more do you want from a movie? I understand that bob doesn't say it is a bad movie, but to call it "bland" is a HUGE misconception, and I think a bad opinion. The King's Speech is not just oscar bait, it is also a GOOD MOVIE!