Escape to the Movies: This Means War

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Sovvolf

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370999 said:
Misogyny means a hatred of women. It can't apply to men, that word is misandrist.
Ha, thanks for clearing that up, using the wrong term here but the point still stands, she's a misandrist then. Either way, she's not a very nice person and not the victim in this movie by a long shot.
 

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I am amazed at how sexist and juvenile so many of these comments are. I haven't seen the movie, but why is everyone calling Witherspoon's character a "two-timing slut"? The trailers have done nothing to imply that at all. She's doing what rational adults do, and going on dates with people to get to know them better. There's no implication of a committed relationship or cheating or anything from the trailers I've seen. She's simply going out with people she finds interesting to see if a relationship would work. That's how adults do it.
 

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bojac6 said:
I am amazed at how sexist and juvenile so many of these comments are. I haven't seen the movie, but why is everyone calling Witherspoon's character a "two-timing slut"? The trailers have done nothing to imply that at all. She's doing what rational adults do, and going on dates with people to get to know them better. There's no implication of a committed relationship or cheating or anything from the trailers I've seen. She's simply going out with people she finds interesting to see if a relationship would work. That's how adults do it.
Prehaps we have very different standards to me but for both a man or a woman it is fine to go out with two or three people for first date. If you are meeting up with someone for a second time you have pretty much shouldn't be going out with everyone else.

From the trailer the fact that they both had their picture on their laptop, she called up her friend to ask if it was ethical, she seemed to be going on multiple dates with them seems to eb pretty much that she is going on with these guys for a while.

This applies for both men and women.
 

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When I saw the trailer, and the Spy vs. Spy tagline came up, I thought it was a live action "Spy vs. Spy" movie.
 

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bojac6 said:
I am amazed at how sexist and juvenile so many of these comments are. I haven't seen the movie, but why is everyone calling Witherspoon's character a "two-timing slut"? The trailers have done nothing to imply that at all. She's doing what rational adults do, and going on dates with people to get to know them better. There's no implication of a committed relationship or cheating or anything from the trailers I've seen. She's simply going out with people she finds interesting to see if a relationship would work. That's how adults do it.
Cause she's clearly dating two men at the same time to see which one is better and which she'd like to commit to... Also, how is thinking that is wrong sexist? I'd think the same if it was a man doing it to a girl, girl doing it to a girl, ect.

Dating is when a relationship is beginning to form, least that's how it works here. This isn't just one date then moving on. They are actively dating and probably getting to the sex part. Though here she's doing it with two men at the same time, having two relationships... So yeah two timing.

Colour-Scientist said:
Misogyny is a hatred or dislike of, or prejudice against women.
So, is that the one point your going to address. It's been pointed out that I'm using the wrong term (Misandry is the right one) however its pretty much the same thing just gender swapped.
 

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misterprickly said:
Let me get this straight... A love triangle movie, thinly based on the Spy vs Spy comics, DOESN'T WORK!?

This is a complete surprise.

This is what I was hoping for...


And give it an ending like in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
Oh so that's the idea. I thought it was going to be something more interesting that morse code but it's just the authors signature.
 

Sovvolf

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370999 said:
bojac6 said:
I am amazed at how sexist and juvenile so many of these comments are. I haven't seen the movie, but why is everyone calling Witherspoon's character a "two-timing slut"? The trailers have done nothing to imply that at all. She's doing what rational adults do, and going on dates with people to get to know them better. There's no implication of a committed relationship or cheating or anything from the trailers I've seen. She's simply going out with people she finds interesting to see if a relationship would work. That's how adults do it.
Prehaps we have very different standards to me but for both a man or a woman it is fine to go out with two or three people for first date. If you are meeting up with someone for a second time you have pretty much shouldn't be going out with everyone else.

From the trailer the fact that they both had their picture on their laptop, she called up her friend to ask if it was ethical, she seemed to be going on multiple dates with them seems to eb pretty much that she is going on with these guys for a while.

This applies for both men and women.
Pretty much the standard here, there's a first date which is fair game... However when you start going on multiple dates, you've pretty much started a relationship. Maybe its not a committed relationship and you can walk out at any point and stop dating. Then you can date someone else. However when you start actively dating 2 people at the same time... That's two timing, you've got two relationships going on with two separate people.
 

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I knew I wasn't going to be that interested but... that was pretty unequivocal there, Bobby! Wow... good to know I wasn't even slightly missing out on something.
 

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Sovvolf said:
370999 said:
bojac6 said:
I am amazed at how sexist and juvenile so many of these comments are. I haven't seen the movie, but why is everyone calling Witherspoon's character a "two-timing slut"? The trailers have done nothing to imply that at all. She's doing what rational adults do, and going on dates with people to get to know them better. There's no implication of a committed relationship or cheating or anything from the trailers I've seen. She's simply going out with people she finds interesting to see if a relationship would work. That's how adults do it.
Prehaps we have very different standards to me but for both a man or a woman it is fine to go out with two or three people for first date. If you are meeting up with someone for a second time you have pretty much shouldn't be going out with everyone else.

From the trailer the fact that they both had their picture on their laptop, she called up her friend to ask if it was ethical, she seemed to be going on multiple dates with them seems to eb pretty much that she is going on with these guys for a while.

This applies for both men and women.
Pretty much the standard here, there's a first date which is fair game... However when you start going on multiple dates, you've pretty much started a relationship. Maybe its not a committed relationship and you can walk out at any point and stop dating. Then you can date someone else. However when you start actively dating 2 people at the same time... That's two timing, you've got two relationships going on with two separate people.
I mean if she at least told the two guys it would be fine but she didn't. Heck if the whole film was that she couldn't choose so told the two guys and then they weren't able to behave as adults I wouldn't have any real problem to it. But she doesn't.

The boys actions then are wrong and if Bob is right the film is wrong for playing them as romantic but she doesn't sound like a great catch.
 

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misterprickly said:
Let me get this straight... A love triangle movie, thinly based on the Spy vs Spy comics, DOESN'T WORK!?

This is a complete surprise.

This is what I was hoping for...


And give it an ending like in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
Honestly, that's the same thing I thought of when I first heard about this movie. And from the sounds of it, this would have been a far better plot than the one bob just talked about. God it just sounds painful and I've seen all three Transformers movies of my own free will so I'm not exactly a snob about movies.
 

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I wonder just how many people acually CARE about the TMNT franchise, or are willing to direct the new movie.

Also, I like how you pointed out the stoker-ish, "dude-bro", macho feel of this whole movie, because it's pretty much what I was thinking when I first heard about it.
 

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Redem said:
At least it show us what happen when intelligence agency have too much power and money
So your saying they will continue to make bad movies until the intelligence agencies all have less power?

o_0 God help us in our coming decades of need......
 

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Every time I see one of these "look at all the WACKY MISFORTUNES these characters go through!" movies (i.e. most Ben Stiller movies), I lose more faith in the improvement of humanity. How can America become a post-modern nation if one of our pastimes is laughing at people who are in serious physical or emotional pain, whether simulated or not?

Also, I expected Bob's little monologue about Ghost Rider 2 not being shown to critics because it's bad as soon as Bob said "If you're wondering wondering why I'm not reviewing..." To be honest, I'm stating this more because Bob has explained this situation already, and not to imply that I am some kind of genius.
 

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When the first trailer for this movie started, it looked like a bad ass action movie with too actors that I liked, then half way the trailer turned into this crap and I was very pissed off at Hollywood.
 

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Imp Emissary said:
Redem said:
At least it show us what happen when intelligence agency have too much power and money
So your saying they will continue to make bad movies until the intelligence agencies all have less power?

o_0 God help us in our coming decades of need......
Well bob mention it a bit, but not only the behavior the movie trivalise is stalkerish but the leads essentially are corrupting goverment powers for their own pleasure and make it spy on its own citizens without any warrant or good reason, essentially making the CIA act like the Stasi.
 

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Redem said:
Imp Emissary said:
Redem said:
At least it show us what happen when intelligence agency have too much power and money
So your saying they will continue to make bad movies until the intelligence agencies all have less power?

o_0 God help us in our coming decades of need......
Well bob mention it a bit, but not only the behavior the movie trivalise is stalkerish but the leads essentially are corrupting goverment powers for their own pleasure and make it spy on its own citizens without any warrant or good reason, essentially making the CIA act like the Stasi.
Kind of reminds me of when the FBI use to spy on the president and other officials, then blackmail them with the information.
Or when the CIA put LSD in the drinking water of unwary citizens. Hmmm, you'd think they could have just asked and some people would have willing tested the drug.