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Magmarock

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There's a lot I could say about the intro to this video, but I won't I can't. I'd get in trouble.
 

m72_ar

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And it's not exactly hard to create a motive against AI development.

We live in a cyber world, creating an entity that effectively regulate our world that can think for itself is a bad idea.
If it can love, there is no reason it can't hate, and in order to hate humanity it's as simple as reading Youtube comments.

I take Neuromancer's take on AI, I wouldn't trust an AI that doesn't have an electromagnetic shotgun aimed at its head 24/7.

And let's not forget, if transhumanism technology exist it's not like everyone will get it. Only the rich will get it.
The rich will be technically post human, better than anyone else, while the poor well.... screwed.

Currently income inequality already created riots, just wait till you see technological inequality
 

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Safe to say that anybody who saw the trailer (because trailers give everything away for some reason) pretty much had this movie figured out. My memory is fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure there was a Batman Beyond cartoon with damn near this exact premise, in fact there are a bunch of kids' cartoons and comic books which follow this same setup. Which makes the scientists even dumber since giving the AI supermind internet access is pretty much the universal turning point for all hell done breaking loose.

Y'know, this movie might have been slightly more interesting if at the very least they had the "good scientist" as transcendent digital god. Have him struggle with his sense of identity, values, etc. instead of going straight into mad, indifferent god.

Or he could just turn into Freakazoid when he delves into the internet. That would have been just as good.
 

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well, you know, as much as you like to rave against fanatic terrorists in this movie, they realistically depicted the anti-science movement. they dont utilize those really good arguments to raise questions, instead they go "but skynet hur dur".
 

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Bloody hell... the cultural mainstream needs to realise that technology and science is neither good nor evil, it is a neutral force that can be applied for the good of all or misused for destructive self-interest.

And I guaran-damn-tee that scientists "playing god" in the lab aren't the people we have to worry about misusing it.
 

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Zeikier said:
Funny how Bob calls the female scientist bullshit out here but lauded that nonsense in Splice.

Also ha, implying Nolan's smart/competent.
That would be because Splice was actually a darn good movie. The female protagonist made mistakes, but they were due to deep psychological issues, not a lousy script. They were also recognized and criticized by the other characters, rather than being overlooked by everyone else in the movie.

What are you basing your criticism of Nolan on? The Dark Knight Rises? Man of Steel? Okay, fine. The guy made two mediocre movies. He's made a pile of excellent ones, too. A few questionable decisions doesn't mean he's an incompetent idiot.
 

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I think there's a philosophical argument that can be made about whether or not technological advancements are really a good thing. Things like medical advancement are good in the sense that they keep people alive, but then there is the idea that we've removed ourselves from the evolutionary chain of Darwin's law. And in the word's of Doctor Perry Cox, "That's the magic of medical advancement, newbie: keeping people alive long after everything that made them human has passed on."

It's unpopular, because essentially saying scientific advancement is bad is saying the internet, electrical entertainment, lights, heat, giving a kid with cancer a fighting chance, etc. But just blindly saying, "If we can do it, we should" is just as bad as religious zealotry.
 

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AdagioBoognish said:
MCerberus said:
So dumb premise, bad execution, high opinion of itself, and NANOBOTS?

This movie appears to be a somehow worse version of Chriton's "Sphere"
Pffft Sphere was fkn awesome.

Anyone know when movie bob got so angry?
When Sony and Fox refused to give Spider-man and X-men back to Marvel. Ten bucks says if X-men Days of Future Past is great, he'll have an aneurysm.
 

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This is just yet another point into the "Christopher Nolan is just a really well disguised hack" category for me. He's one of those directors that everyone thinks is good when he's just not. If he's not careful, he's going to end up like "Vhat a tweest!" ShamallamaAlabama. Dark Knight, Inception, and this didn't do him any favors.

Also, Virtuosity is a fucking awesome movie. How dare you imply it is only good when compared to something worse!
 

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Luminous Chroma said:
What are you basing your criticism of Nolan on? The Dark Knight Rises? Man of Steel? Okay, fine. The guy made two mediocre movies. He's made a pile of excellent ones, too. A few questionable decisions doesn't mean he's an incompetent idiot.
I think he's making the point that Shyamalan started out brilliant and now look. I have a feeling Nolan has run his "visionary" course and will soon go the Shyamalan route.
 

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leviadragon99 said:
Bloody hell... the cultural mainstream needs to realise that technology and science is neither good nor evil, it is a neutral force that can be applied for the good of all or misused for destructive self-interest.

And I guaran-damn-tee that scientists "playing god" in the lab aren't the people we have to worry about misusing it.
This reminds me of an old SMBC comic strip where two scientist wonder while eating cake if there was a way to create a beam that only removes the raisins they don't like from the cake, and on the next panel we have a general explaining to the president how now they can use the same beam to remotely destroy all the fruits in an enemy country.

Played for laughs, but it depicts the relationship between the intentions of scientists and the way their research is used by politicians pretty accurately.
 

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I have a feeling the upcoming "Lucy" is going to get it wrong in the same way. If only for that stupid "using 100% of the brain" gimmick.

Heck, both movies have Morgan Freeman as, well... Morgan Freeman.
 

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When you got to the last line about "the most egregious example of a really, really stupid movie that think it's a really, really smart movie" I was CERTAIN you were going to end the sentence with "since 'Branded'" because that was the last film I remember you really ripping into for its own stupid pretention and contempt for its audience. Citing Prometheus caught me off guard, especially as you weren't initially that harsh on it (although you HAVE indicated since that, in hindsight, you really don't think that much of it).
 

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After seeing Captain America: The Winter Soldier, and keeping in mind its mid movie twist, I will from now on refer too a character uploading their mind into software as
pulling a Zola. I got chills up my spine when he said "I am not a recording!"
 

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I remember when virtual reality was going to be the next big thing in the early 90s. Unfortunately technology was not advanced enough yet and the sets were really bulky.

Fun fact there was even a scripting language called Virtual Reality Markup Language (VRML) that I ended up using in a college project in 1997 that ended up being a version of Google Streetview for the one college campus except inside the bulidngs. Everything had to be done manually including making the 360 degree panoramas and linking each one.

Dennis Potter covered similar ideas with the series Cold Lazarus http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115140/ that also had the "Reality or Nothing" (RON) terrorist organisation.

There look to be themes in the movie that were around all the way back to Der Golem and earlier.

Am a bit disappointed in how this movie turned out as it would be interesting it if was actually a good story.
 

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LOL Virtuosity
I only remember the man and the snake that can regenerate using glass. Besides, the special effects, I don't remember a thing. Oh yeah, it was crap.
 

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Why are they still posting these subtitles?
They're spoiling the jokes with a worse delivery than there would be in the video - detracting from how funny the video is.
 

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shogunblade said:
MCerberus said:
So dumb premise, bad execution, high opinion of itself, and NANOBOTS?
This movie appears to be a somehow worse version of Chriton's "Sphere"
God, why did you remind me of Sphere? That movie sucked something fierce, and I have just enough of a memory of it that I remember being disappointed by it. That was Aliens, though, if I remember correctly.

OT: I had high hopes for this, but if nothing else, it probably makes the Genius of Christopher Nolan much stronger than expected, which means Dark Knight Rises issues are more with its script than anything else.

Oh well, Interstellar should make up for it, so I'm excited for that, and if nothing else, I haven't seen Captain America 2 yet.
No, they thought it was aliens but it was really time travel and they spend the last two chapters sitting around talking about how they need to use the nanomachine thought-powers to wish away all their new abilities.
 

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GabeZhul said:
Also, according to studies we could have actually made the Polio virus extinct in nature (similarly to smallpox) by 2010 if not for the anti-vaccination movement and the retarded conspiracy theorists and/or fundamentalist Christians in African countries who publicly campaigned against people vaccinating their kids.

We live in a fucked up world, my friends... -.-'
Not solely due to this. Intelligence agencies have a habit of tagging along with the vaccination folks and using their data for political ends. It's how they caught Bin Laden after all. And a lot of the poor, desperate places that still have Polio and such are also the places where the local government is actively malign and would misuse medical data.