Escape to the Movies: Untangling Spider-Man

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Antonio Torrente

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Zachary Amaranth said:
"Miss me yet?"

Oh HELL no. Even if this movie's ten times as bad as you say, Bob, I will likely NEVER miss Toby's Spider-Man. Or the Raimi films at all.

Antonio Torrente said:
You gotta face the unfortunate fact that people(main stream audiences) are sucker for Spiderman.
Lousy Mainstream, enjoying things I don't. RAWR!
I don't know remember what video it is but I'm sure it's MovieBob's
He says in that video "We humans are smart as individuals but stupid as a group."
So we can apply that quote to what happened here and why TASM still made a lot of money.
 

anthony87

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Antonio Torrente said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
"Miss me yet?"

Oh HELL no. Even if this movie's ten times as bad as you say, Bob, I will likely NEVER miss Toby's Spider-Man. Or the Raimi films at all.

Antonio Torrente said:
You gotta face the unfortunate fact that people(main stream audiences) are sucker for Spiderman.
Lousy Mainstream, enjoying things I don't. RAWR!
I don't know remember what video it is but I'm sure it's MovieBob's
He says in that video "We humans are smart as individuals but stupid as a group."
So we can apply that quote to what happened here and why TASM still made a lot of money.
.....Wasn't it Tommy Lee Jones who said that?

 

anthony87

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Noelveiga said:
* While we're at it, what's with the fluid being commercially available but Spidey later claiming to have designed it himself? Is he lying to brag or is it a plot hole? Either way, I would have preferred the USM solution of making the fluid part of his dad's experiments.
I think that's meant to imply he designed the actual web shooter mechanism himself by using the fluid that was designed by Oscorp.
 

Antonio Torrente

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anthony87 said:
Antonio Torrente said:
Zachary Amaranth said:
"Miss me yet?"

Oh HELL no. Even if this movie's ten times as bad as you say, Bob, I will likely NEVER miss Toby's Spider-Man. Or the Raimi films at all.

Antonio Torrente said:
You gotta face the unfortunate fact that people(main stream audiences) are sucker for Spiderman.
Lousy Mainstream, enjoying things I don't. RAWR!
I don't know remember what video it is but I'm sure it's MovieBob's
He says in that video "We humans are smart as individuals but stupid as a group."
So we can apply that quote to what happened here and why TASM still made a lot of money.
.....Wasn't it Tommy Lee Jones who said that?

Yes he even should that same pic.
Now I remember what video it is.
Its title is "Untransformed". [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/5384-Untransformed]
 

Arcane Azmadi

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Quiotu said:
Two reviews for one movie. MovieBob is spending a -little- too much time here trying to prove that his opinion is right.

Seriously, your first review was all you needed. This second one just reeks of you trying to justify your opinion to the masses that disagree, which is unnecessary and a bit narcissistic of you.

Stop trying to prove your point, your opinion is different than most others. And that's OKAY... stop already.
Maybe he just had the feeling that his initial review was inadequate to convey his proper reasons for hating the film (he certainly received a lot of flames in response to his vitriol-laden review) and felt he needed to clarify his point in order to maintain a certain level of professionalism that he had let slip in his last video? This really does seem to be less about "stop arguing with me" and more about "OK, maybe I should have explained that better".
 

Anchupom

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"Geeky, socially awkward people aren't sexy"?

Benedict Cumberbatch, Sherlock.
Matt Smith, The Doctor

I object, your honour.
 

Lhynn

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Well, i just saw the movie and it was boring, and kind of stupid, wouldnt recomend it. Not the anti-christ bob seems to think it is, but just not worth your time.
Theres far better content in youtube made by amateurs.
 

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SuperFlik said:
The story of the movie is actually mashing together several of the different Spider-Man continuities.

In The Amazing Spider-Man comics, The Lizard is a different personality than Curt Connors and does on several occasions try to turn the world (or New York at least) into giant lizards like him. And to be fair, in the original run of the comic, no characters actually say "With great power, comes great responsibility," a narrating text box says it at the end of the very first issue.

In the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon (Easily the best Spider-Man cartoon ever but only 24 episodes), Gwen Stacy and Peter are childhood friend who are in high school together and Gwen is working as an intern for Dr. Connors.

In the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, Dr. Connors was friends with Richard Parker, Peter's father, and it's he who accidentally creates Carnage using Spider-Man's DNA and Richard Parker's research.

So yes, while it is not the perfect "Amazing Spider-Man" movie, it gets more correct than Bob gives it credit for.

Additionally, George Stacy has always been a police captain.
You sir have obviously done more digging than most of the "hardcore" spider man fans (*cough Bob), this post made me smile.

Thank you for making me not feel like a traitor to spider man for actually liking this movie...
 

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Ironically, I went to see the movie BECAUSE of his reviews. I'd heard from other people it was really good, then Bob says it's really bad, I was torn.

I went in all set to hate the movie (I really didn't like the trailers) but you know what? It was actually pretty good.
 

darksakul

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Yers I can realize when you watch alot of movies and you supposed to be a condenseur of movies your pallet for films is supposed to be more developed and refined that the average movie viewer.

Unfortunately Movie Bob already lost credibility with me for giving a great review to
Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1855401/

If you want to wow us over with your superior refined taste in movies you lost it with Tim and Eric. It is like saying you prefer the Entenmann's apple pie to grandma's home made apple pie.

Like really, you like the reject material from Adult Swim? Okay I can get you stay out late night watching whats ever on TV, and maybe you develop a taste for a certain brand of comedy that other people wouldn't give it a 2nd chance. Example out of my group of friends I am the only one who liked Adventure Time. It does not mean I should shoe horn my pals to watch the show.

Lately Bob been trying too hard to justify this views and tries to explain how our opinions might be wrong if we disagree with his views.

Look its going to be obvious that everyone opinions are different, but if you are going to argue and prove your position on a film stick to what points are good and bad.

As for the Lizard in the new Spider Man movie, they are hinting at a deeper and more complex reason for why all the events are going on.
 

Lovely Mixture

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I don't know how, but Bob's criticisms of the Garfield Spider-Man (which I disagree with immensely) are the very same criticisms I have for the Mcguire Spider-Man. Yet he seems to think the Raimi films are perfectly fine.
 

Roman Monaghan

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Well if the Amazing Spider Man review was this shows version of "Heavens to Metroid", then this was the "HtM: Revisited" equivalent. In other words, Bob is working much much faster to ruin this show just as completely as he's ruined his other one by releasing his "I'm right because you're all stupid shut up listen to me not make any sense see how much I can miss the point Twilight sucks!" thing immediately after the last episode.

Don't see how you could be mad at the poor guy though. Remember the Scream 4 review? Bob has finally realized the walking cliche he decided to personify is no longer relevant or funny, and is rebelling against any and all ideas that no one gives a shit anymore.
 

Roman Monaghan

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MrJoyless said:
SuperFlik said:
The story of the movie is actually mashing together several of the different Spider-Man continuities.

In The Amazing Spider-Man comics, The Lizard is a different personality than Curt Connors and does on several occasions try to turn the world (or New York at least) into giant lizards like him. And to be fair, in the original run of the comic, no characters actually say "With great power, comes great responsibility," a narrating text box says it at the end of the very first issue.

In the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon (Easily the best Spider-Man cartoon ever but only 24 episodes), Gwen Stacy and Peter are childhood friend who are in high school together and Gwen is working as an intern for Dr. Connors.

In the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, Dr. Connors was friends with Richard Parker, Peter's father, and it's he who accidentally creates Carnage using Spider-Man's DNA and Richard Parker's research.

So yes, while it is not the perfect "Amazing Spider-Man" movie, it gets more correct than Bob gives it credit for.

Additionally, George Stacy has always been a police captain.
You sir have obviously done more digging than most of the "hardcore" spider man fans (*cough Bob), this post made me smile.

Thank you for making me not feel like a traitor to spider man for actually liking this movie...
You have nothing to fear in that regard. Bob is the traitor. Not because he doesn't like the movie, but because he's not liking the movie for the sake of not liking it instead of just because it's lagitamently bad. Don't take what Bob says as what the majority thinks.
 

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Antonio Torrente said:
I don't know remember what video it is but I'm sure it's MovieBob's
He says in that video "We humans are smart as individuals but stupid as a group."
So we can apply that quote to what happened here and why TASM still made a lot of money.
Men in Black, perhaps? Regardless, it's also a distinct possibility that people just liked it.

It seems like this is an instance where the outrage is coming in the form of histrionics.
 

Beautiful End

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Am I the only one who actually liked the previous Spider Man movies? I'm starting to think I am.
So alone.

See, the original Spider Man movies were really cheesy; I'll admit it. Peter turning into a emo guy as a result of him being "evil" or having J.J. Jameson be the random comic relief and then that moment with the waiter when Peter tries to propose...yeah, it had its weird moments. But besides that, it was pretty spot on. Perfect costume, accurate story, good villains (Except the Sandman). Hell, even Connors showed up in those movies and I, for one, admire the fact that they resisted temptation and didn't turn him into the obvious villain.

And above all, I liked the old Peter better. He was the perfect Spidey; not strikingly handsome, nerdy but not a doormat, an awkward personality that shifts completely when he puts on a mask (Insecurities), a motif, no pantomime acts, etc. His character literally evolves throughout the movies. He goes from insecure loser to confident hero. Being nerdy just means you're a bookworm and you're socially awkward. A badass outsider doesn't qualify as one. If you saw Tobey/Peter walking down the street, you wouldn't even give him a second glance. But this new Spidey is, like Bob said, carrying that Edward Cullen vibe: mysterious outsider who's pretty handsome and god, everyone wishes to date him but it's too dangerous. And he just seems to be ready and eager to become a hero whereas old Spidey didn't but he stepped up anyway.

I admire the fact they tried to "modernize" Peter with this new brooding personality but there was just no need. We still got geeks around. Geeks did not turn into brooding outsiders. They're still geeks. They will always be geeks. So it's not like the concept of having a geek as the main character is gonna be completely foreign to tweens and the age group below those.

No, just no. Pity because the whole thing had potential. I was all up for the reboot assuming they've done it right. Not a carbon copy of the old Spidey movies but just something...original and better. It can be done (See: Batman). Instead, they just took ideas from previous popular franchises and shoved them down Spidey's suit and voila! You got yourself a movie!
it suffered what I call the Resident Evil syndrome: It would have been an okay movie if it wasn't because it was named after a franchise that it didn't make justice to.

EDIT: Yes, the movie is cool. I'll admit that. But again, I don't feel it makes justice to Spidey's name.

*Abandons topic before flame war starts*