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So, it appears I'm a tad better than the average forum go'er about vising Escapist 2: It's just a flesh wound (kidding, though content remains way way down from the site's peak).

Most of the articles are Okay. MovieBob's doing the things that made me follow him to YouTube (now there's a cesspool if I've ever seen it), though I miss many of the running columns. Adam Adler's legal column and Riley Constantine's work shine through, though I suspect that's partially me being an attorney and transwoman, both backgrounds that are rare enough in journalism that each one tends to be unique in how they approach subjects.

Still, it's a long way to go from the heyday of the site, and I suspect that editorial control is going to need a lot of practice before it's refined properly. I think the Russ Pitts article that @IceForce published should have been kept up as there is a discussion to be had (ironically, one that would be poisoned because of the very people that he stated were unwelcome) as it is something that kind of needs to be discussed, both in terms of the industry's practices and that godawful moment which laid bare some of the deepest fears of those of us who love games, but find self-described "gamers" to be a toxic bunch (I lost my brother at least briefly to those assholes, and I still wonder if my preference for female avatars in CoDs Blackout keeps making me a target during the lobby session).

For now, I'm willing to stay, if only because I'm not willing to shell out a subscription to Forbes just for their AAA-focused gaming coverage (seriously though, there's a reason I have them in my Google News feed [https://www.forbes.com/games/#4498cc4f42ac]).
 
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No. Still occasionally remember to watch ZP, but I haven't really seen anything else interesting, gaming opinion pieces just don't appeal to me. I liked the escapist covering bits of science, tech, tabletop etc news.
 
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I tend to head to the v2 escapist first, open up the forums on one tab, articles and videos in others. Don't really comment though, not going to sign up for Disqus
 

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tippy2k2 said:
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The new articles have honestly been a bit of a trainwreck. Multiple times, content has been published and then pulled down again (originals here, and here). And the Editor himself even had to take a leave of absence.

Most annoyingly, the above drama could all have been avoided had they just stuck to their initial promise of "leaving politics at the door".
So wait, they pulled an article for being pro-LGBT?
The article had borderline slander (and supposedly one of the people trashed in the piece sent actual legal stuff in from their lawyer but no idea if that's legit). That likely took down the LGBT article.

Russ (editor in chief) picked a fight with the Depression Quest lady about the "Talk about Ethics" article (which is why Russ is currently on a self imposed break/sabbatical/whatever you want to call it). That he admits is what took down the Ethics article.
I thought we weren't meant to talk about the Event That Shall Not Be Named. It's one of the first things in the CoC. But Russ does it?
 

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trunkage said:
I thought we weren't meant to talk about the Event That Shall Not Be Named. It's one of the first things in the CoC. But Russ does it?
Yeah, it's not a great way to start out, but not talking about it, at least in some way where something actually comes of it, feels more like covering it up than letting it stay there. But the bigger problem is that the event had repercussions throughout the world, with many of the tactics and approaches to messaging and the resulting networks on one side of that debate being weaponized to infect politics and society at large. At a certain point, we will need to discuss what happened and what kind of industry and community behavior ultimately gave cover of plausible legitimacy to people who ultimately waged a terror campaign against women and minorities within the industry and community. I'm not saying it has to be today or tomorrow or anytime soon, but we can't simply not acknowledge what happened.

At the end of the day, it feels like we just went through the gaming community equivalent of Port Arthur and no one wants to talk about it.
 

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Yeah I check the new site for the new ZP, and MovieBob content when its up. I mean I don't use it chat because Disquss doesn't load properly on my iPad. Or my Desktop.
 

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I read/watch most of it. Never stopped watching ZP. Never really stopped watching MovieBob's stuff either, after all, he's just moved around as far as I'm concerned. Nice to have Shamus back. I tend to skim over the reviews/previews unless I'm already interested in the property.
 

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trunkage said:
tippy2k2 said:
Saelune said:
IceForce said:
The new articles have honestly been a bit of a trainwreck. Multiple times, content has been published and then pulled down again (originals here, and here). And the Editor himself even had to take a leave of absence.

Most annoyingly, the above drama could all have been avoided had they just stuck to their initial promise of "leaving politics at the door".
So wait, they pulled an article for being pro-LGBT?
The article had borderline slander (and supposedly one of the people trashed in the piece sent actual legal stuff in from their lawyer but no idea if that's legit). That likely took down the LGBT article.

Russ (editor in chief) picked a fight with the Depression Quest lady about the "Talk about Ethics" article (which is why Russ is currently on a self imposed break/sabbatical/whatever you want to call it). That he admits is what took down the Ethics article.
I thought we weren't meant to talk about the Event That Shall Not Be Named. It's one of the first things in the CoC. But Russ does it?
And immediately put himself in suspension. The system works!
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
I tend to head to the v2 escapist first, open up the forums on one tab, articles and videos in others. Don't really comment though, not going to sign up for Disqus
I too start out on V2 first, then go to forums. I tried to comment but could not get Disqus to work. I don't really like videos but read the articles. I get a bit frustrated though at times because I am a stickler for organization and I don't like how they don't have the genre at the top of the reviews. Personally, I would love it if all reviews were organized by genre making it easier to find the games you are interested in. Though I usually know what genre a game is due to my gaming history, it can be confusing if they do not have the genre mentioned if it is a new title and I have had to look for other review sites to figure out what the game actually was. Like if at the top of gaming reviews it has Genre/ release date/ developer so you know what you are looking at and can understand the context of what is written. A Moba isn't going to play like an RTS and neither are going to play like a single player RPG so you don't have the same expectations of game going into reading the review. I also always want to know up front if a game has PVP, and that is not always specified as well. It can be confusing at times if not put out there up front, otherwise you are forced to go to another site to read about the game just to figure out what it is you are looking at here.

I really do like the tabletop articles as well as other hobby stuff like Lego, science, tech, cosplay, action figures, toys ect. and want to see more of it, in written with photos form rather than video. I like to read rather than listen to it. Reading interesting articles while listening to my favorite music is more relaxing to me.
 

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Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
Am I the only one who gets unskippable ads, that then after the ZP video doesn't load? And no error, just black screen, no run time, press play doesn't work...
 

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Silentpony said:
Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
Am I the only one who gets unskippable ads, that then after the ZP video doesn't load? And no error, just black screen, no run time, press play doesn't work...
No I get that on my iOS devices. My desktop browser running the plugins that shall not be named however, no issues.
 

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Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
TBH, I personally haven't noticed it being much more ass than the previous one the Escapist had. This site hasn't had a decent player for as long as I can remember.
 

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Avnger said:
Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
TBH, I personally haven't noticed it being much more ass than the previous one the Escapist had. This site hasn't had a decent player for as long as I can remember.
That's what sucks. Why bother updating a website if you aren't going to fix the one thing that constantly breaks and makes people say "this shit better get uploaded to youtube". The rest of the content is text. You can put that shit on anything.
 

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Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
Avnger said:
Gordon_4 said:
Also the new video player is ass and should be replaced.
TBH, I personally haven't noticed it being much more ass than the previous one the Escapist had. This site hasn't had a decent player for as long as I can remember.
I haven't had any problems with the player on my tablet or PC's. Of course it works for me and I don't even like to watch videos :p