Escapist News Now: Playstation 4 Revealed & Sony Burns Microsoft

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V da Mighty Taco

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First off, I like this Ma'idah lady. This may be extremely rude for me to say and I really do not mean any offense by this, but she's not the most beautiful thing out there - and that's part of why I find her charming. Everything about her screams "genuine" including her attitude and personality, and that's something I can really appreciate. Looking forwards to seeing her around more.

Next, Sony wrecked it. This was a no-holds-barred beatdown of colossal proportions that Microsoft just received. The PS+ requirement for online play is certainly very upsetting, but overall Sony ran away with this. Nintendo didn't do bad either, but Microsoft... there's no way they aren't freaking out right now.

Captcha: "grand slam"
 

Nurb

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Next Gen is washed out brown, gray, and green again too I see :(
 

ZephrC

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Well, I do have to congratulate Sony. I think they may even have convinced me, and I'd already pretty much given up on this console generation.

Heck at this point if they found some way to work backwards compatibility with the PS3 in there it might even be a day one purchase for me, and I've only ever bought a console on day one once before and I've been gaming since the Atari days. (PS2, if you were curious which one.)
 

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Funny, I always hoped that it would be Xbox that would string us along with the horrible ideas before throwing their hands up and laughing saying "You didn't believe that did you?" and we'd say "Oh Microsoft you had me fooled."
Looks like Sony is the one to do it.
 

rob_simple

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See, this is how you introduce a subscription service properly: first you make it optional and give people a chance to try it out and discover how nutter butterly awesome it is, then you make it essential but only for multiplayer which a lot of people still won't be interested in. It will help Sony make some extra profit without the consumers feeling they've been shafted fifty quid for access to something they've been able to do on their PC's for about two decades.

I really like the PSN store as it is, (Sly Cooper trilogy and the Sands of Time trilogy on sale for £10, without a Plus subscription? Don't mind if I do,) and even though I don't ever play online multiplayer I'd still consider signing up for it on PS4 just for all the great deals and free games they give away.

If they'd said from the start, 'you need this if you want to do absolutely anything worthwhile with our console' I'd have told them to fuck off, but they gave me time to soak it in and weigh up the pros against the cons instead of pushing me off the boat into the Atlantic and barking at me to start swimming.

It's great to see Sony actually understanding how a healthy consumer relationship should work, but it's sad/insane that Microsoft still hasn't grasped it or, even worse, just doesn't seem to care.
 

Saltyk

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Hey, if the only negatives were the console looks odd (kinda sleek, really) and PS+ is required for online, that's still a win. And is much better than:

Your friends have unlimited access to your games on your personal console.
Xdust5 said:
Funny, I always hoped that it would be Xbox that would string us along with the horrible ideas before throwing their hands up and laughing saying "You didn't believe that did you?" and we'd say "Oh Microsoft you had me fooled."
Looks like Sony is the one to do it.
That would almost be worse. If not worse. I would hope that would be every bit as negatively received.
 

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well.. I think the DRMs are not the console maker's idea... I think it's the publisher's, I have no idea how sony can just say they've tossed the whole thing into the back of their head... but I think it's got something to do with the "multiplayer game needs PS+ membership" it's the new DRM... other than these two points... I'm sold to sony for the next gen console... no matter how cool/OP mega man looks, How BADASS Bayonetta2 (I'm going to cry over this game) makes me boner, how I felt cheated by KI being Xbone title... The choice is clear... PS4 is the console winner (at lease so far), it hasn't make any (REAL) dick move yet, and it's shown no shortage of awesomeness to players (please don't call us "gamers" any more... it sounds like "gambler"...).
 

Fangface74

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Why are people making decisions now? I own all (previous) gen consoles and I didn't buy a single one till at least 3-6 months after release, what with things like OS patches, policy changes and oh yeah...an actual game library, I figure let those with more money than sense dive in first, plus whatever the professional critics/journalists have noticed along the way.

Console history has shown us that without a doubt; the look of the console, the hardware, the first wave of titles available, (hell even the goddamn price!) ultimately means nothing, it's a weird organic, (gamer) culture process that ultimately can't ever be predicted.

My point: Just wait! Sony is indeed coming off way better than MS, but if I could look a year into the future and see that *insert any gaming platform* is dominating I won't be surprised whatever the result, just happy that I held off and backed a winner.
 

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Escapist News Now said:
Playstation 4 Revealed & Sony Burns Microsoft

We finally get to see what the PS4 looks like and Sony takes some jabs at Microsoft over used games.

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Great job Ma'idah. I got all the E3 info I wanted (for now) from here. Cheers.
 

Elf Defiler Korgan

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Fangface74 said:
Why are people making decisions now? I own all (previous) gen consoles and I didn't buy a single one till at least 3-6 months after release, what with things like OS patches, policy changes and oh yeah...an actual game library, I figure let those with more money than sense dive in first, plus whatever the professional critics/journalists have noticed along the way.

Console history has shown us that without a doubt; the look of the console, the hardware, the first wave of titles available, (hell even the goddamn price!) ultimately means nothing, it's a weird organic, (gamer) culture process that ultimately can't ever be predicted.

My point: Just wait! Sony is indeed coming off way better than MS, but if I could look a year into the future and see that *insert any gaming platform* is dominating I won't be surprised whatever the result, just happy that I held off and backed a winner.
I too always wait. The games lure me over, not much else. As long as I don't get f***ed by new dodgy policies, as xbox is pushing, I'll jump in, but later.
 

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I can totally live with the + Subscription for Multiplayer, esp as + gives you so much more. I think M$ just got shitcanned and i couldnt be happier about it!
 

chiefohara

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I already pay for xbox live

Paying for P+ doesn't really jar with me as a 360 owner who is probably going to be jumping ship to PS4
 

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Requiring an account to online play is no loss for me, my internet isn't good enough for multiplayer.

I am officially moving from a *non-commited grunt* to an *intrigued hmm*.

This new news satisfies me, but in order to move to a *yes footing*, there will need to be at least 5 games I want in order to justify it. The revealed lineup fails to meet this vital criteria, thus far.
 

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Hello again new person *waves*

So who else has been won over by the PS4? Up until I heard about The Order 1886 I wasn't to push on getting one and I knew I was not going to be getting a xbone, but Alternative history Victorian London is a weakness of mine and then they mention Oddworld and I was sold // Plus the fact that it's going for ?399 is pretty sweet

Though truth be told I don't much care for FF XV, Kingdom Hearts 3 or even Destiny

-M
 

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Elf Defiler Korgan said:
Fangface74 said:
Why are people making decisions now? I own all (previous) gen consoles and I didn't buy a single one till at least 3-6 months after release, what with things like OS patches, policy changes and oh yeah...an actual game library, I figure let those with more money than sense dive in first, plus whatever the professional critics/journalists have noticed along the way.

Console history has shown us that without a doubt; the look of the console, the hardware, the first wave of titles available, (hell even the goddamn price!) ultimately means nothing, it's a weird organic, (gamer) culture process that ultimately can't ever be predicted.

My point: Just wait! Sony is indeed coming off way better than MS, but if I could look a year into the future and see that *insert any gaming platform* is dominating I won't be surprised whatever the result, just happy that I held off and backed a winner.
I too always wait. The games lure me over, not much else. As long as I don't get f***ed by new dodgy policies, as xbox is pushing, I'll jump in, but later.
This is my train of thought too, it rarely pays to be an early adapter with this sort of stuff and most of the games I am interested in I can play on PC for now. Best to wait a couple of years for the next-gen consoles to come down in price a little and maybe for MS to back-peddle on some of their policies.

Also Nasrin if you are reading this, you still come off as a little nervous, but you have no need to be because you are doing great!
 

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I realise this is different for those outside of the UK, but here in Britain we have a TV Licence. As the site puts it, "You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."

So, I can buy a TV, plug it into my PS3 and use it as a monitor. That's fine. But if I want to use it as a television I need a licence.

Likewise, I can legally own a car without any kind of insurance, driving licence or road tax... I just can't drive it.

A great many things in our lives require additional payment elements. The PC I am using right now to type this is a prime example - owning it does not entitle me to free internet.

This is the mindset by which I think we are expected to view XBL and PSN+. Well, PSN+ at any rate; we're not allowed to 'own' an Xbone or any of the media on it.

As far as this model goes, PSN+ does appear to be a better one than most. You can still use your PS4 for prety much everything you might want to do with it, you just can't game online. One could rationalise this as being asked to pay to keep the server's online. However, PSN+ isn't just "pay up or don't play" like the god-awful XBL. PSN+ is honest to God value for money. I've downloaded ten games this year alone off of PSN+ that I didn't have to pay for, ranging from Thomas Was Alone to Hitman: Absolution and everything in between. Ten games for £40, with more titles becoming available as the year goes on? That's pretty sweet right there!

So really, that is what I think of myself as paying for. I get PSN+ so I can download £400 worth of games for 1/10th the price. I won't notice the changeover, simply because I'm mystified why more people don't have PSN+ already.