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Nazulu

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TKretts3 said:
I don't care about that, as long as Samus and another Metroid character are in. It doesn't even have to be Ridley (Though that would be AWESOME!), they could just throw in a Federation Marine (Fingers crossed for the Metroid Prime 2 style Marine, and not the abhorred Other M purple suits).
The only one I thought would work is Dark Samus, she can spray acid and glide into you like it did in Prime 2. Good idea?
 

Alar

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Oh, I'd play with her, if you know what I mean...!

In the new Brawl game as my character, of course.
 

romxxii

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Wait, there's hate for the Wii Fit Trainer? Everywhere I've gone, I've seen nothing but love for the character.
 

TKretts3

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Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
I don't care about that, as long as Samus and another Metroid character are in. It doesn't even have to be Ridley (Though that would be AWESOME!), they could just throw in a Federation Marine (Fingers crossed for the Metroid Prime 2 style Marine, and not the abhorred Other M purple suits).
The only one I thought would work is Dark Samus, she can spray acid and glide into you like it did in Prime 2. Good idea?
Gameplay-wise they'd be different, but in terms of shape and form they'd be just about the same. After all, you can change a character's colour scheme in the click of a button. I'd prefer a Federation Marine with a Phazon Enhancement Device as their super smash. Or, another though, one of the other hunters from Metroid Prime 3, or from Metroid Prime Hunters. Yeah, Hunters was pretty weak, but the other bounty hunters were really cool to see and use!
 

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The Wii fit trainer does not belong in a brawling game because they are not a "character". There's no definition or iconic history. There's just... instructional blah.

It would be like a new X-men movie with a some girl who's called an X-men but who just kind of hangs around but doesn't do anything, has no face and is just there. BLAH. Or like a Transformers movie where some stupid, boring kid takes away Robots smashing each other screen time to yell at the robots for stomping in his garden. Oh wait. You're all just a bunch of Michael Bay fans.
 

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BX3 said:
Good to see I'm not the only one that adores the inclusion of WFT.
Holy shit, I just noticed the abbreviation. That's so appropriate. After all, the WFT has many people saying WTF.

Ha. ha. ha...
 

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GratchDDO said:
The Wii fit trainer does not belong in a brawling game because they are not a "character". There's no definition or iconic history. There's just... instructional blah.

It would be like a new X-men movie with a some girl who's called an X-men but who just kind of hangs around but doesn't do anything, has no face and is just there. BLAH. Or like a Transformers movie where some stupid, boring kid takes away Robots smashing each other screen time to yell at the robots for stomping in his garden. Oh wait. You're all just a bunch of Michael Bay fans.
Um... projecting a bit? Why are we all a bunch of Bay fans?
 

Nazulu

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TKretts3 said:
Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
I don't care about that, as long as Samus and another Metroid character are in. It doesn't even have to be Ridley (Though that would be AWESOME!), they could just throw in a Federation Marine (Fingers crossed for the Metroid Prime 2 style Marine, and not the abhorred Other M purple suits).
The only one I thought would work is Dark Samus, she can spray acid and glide into you like it did in Prime 2. Good idea?
Gameplay-wise they'd be different, but in terms of shape and form they'd be just about the same. After all, you can change a character's colour scheme in the click of a button. I'd prefer a Federation Marine with a Phazon Enhancement Device as their super smash. Or, another though, one of the other hunters from Metroid Prime 3, or from Metroid Prime Hunters. Yeah, Hunters was pretty weak, but the other bounty hunters were really cool to see and use!
Shape and form, they would be similar yes, but the clone to me was pretty much the only one with equal power to Samus, and her move set is pretty interesting in Prime 2.

The marines look even more generic than the WFT and the other hunters look like something from Ben 10. Guess I'm not a fan of those.
 

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I am super excited about the Wii-Fit Trainer. SSB is about a seriously goofy fight, and the crazy mix is half the goof.
 

shadowstriker86

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considering the amount of rule 34 that sprung up for wii fit trainer, ya, i think alot of people will be playing as her. Although probably for a lot of the wrong reasons...
 

TKretts3

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Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
I don't care about that, as long as Samus and another Metroid character are in. It doesn't even have to be Ridley (Though that would be AWESOME!), they could just throw in a Federation Marine (Fingers crossed for the Metroid Prime 2 style Marine, and not the abhorred Other M purple suits).
The only one I thought would work is Dark Samus, she can spray acid and glide into you like it did in Prime 2. Good idea?
Gameplay-wise they'd be different, but in terms of shape and form they'd be just about the same. After all, you can change a character's colour scheme in the click of a button. I'd prefer a Federation Marine with a Phazon Enhancement Device as their super smash. Or, another though, one of the other hunters from Metroid Prime 3, or from Metroid Prime Hunters. Yeah, Hunters was pretty weak, but the other bounty hunters were really cool to see and use!
Shape and form, they would be similar yes, but the clone to me was pretty much the only one with equal power to Samus, and her move set is pretty interesting in Prime 2.

The marines look even more generic than the WFT and the other hunters look like something from Ben 10. Guess I'm not a fan of those.
Maybe there come be something along the lines of the Sheik/Zelda combo in the other Smash Bros games. However, rather than switching in the middle of the game you could only switch in the character select screen. Though, this would cause a problem as this is currently how one would select between Samus and Zero-Suit Samus.

I don't know, I admit that it would be awesome to play as Metroid Prime 2's Dark Samus, but I don't see a way to make it work efficiently. :(
 

Nazulu

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TKretts3 said:
Maybe there come be something along the lines of the Sheik/Zelda combo in the other Smash Bros games. However, rather than switching in the middle of the game you could only switch in the character select screen. Though, this would cause a problem as this is currently how one would select between Samus and Zero-Suit Samus.

I don't know, I admit that it would be awesome to play as Metroid Prime 2's Dark Samus, but I don't see a way to make it work efficiently. :(
I meant as separate characters altogether. I don't know, I reckon they can get away with it just fine. Maybe they can make Dark Samus have a different stance and move in a creep way, or maybe just bigger and edged out. If they can get away with Toon Link and Star Wolf and there similar move set, I really doubt anyone would have a problem.

Honestly, I hope they drop Zamus. Her super was pretty stupid and more people preferred using her since she could move quicker. It really doesn't make sense to me to her have her as tough out of the suit even though this game isn't built on accuracy. I reckon your Metroid Hunters idea is far superior to that. I like the green one the most :)
 

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Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
Maybe there come be something along the lines of the Sheik/Zelda combo in the other Smash Bros games. However, rather than switching in the middle of the game you could only switch in the character select screen. Though, this would cause a problem as this is currently how one would select between Samus and Zero-Suit Samus.

I don't know, I admit that it would be awesome to play as Metroid Prime 2's Dark Samus, but I don't see a way to make it work efficiently. :(
I meant as separate characters altogether. I don't know, I reckon they can get away with it just fine. Maybe they can make Dark Samus have a different stance and move in a creep way, or maybe just bigger and edged out. If they can get away with Toon Link and Star Wolf and there similar move set, I really doubt anyone would have a problem.

Honestly, I hope they drop Zamus. Her super was pretty stupid and more people preferred using her since she could move quicker. It really doesn't make sense to me to her have her as tough out of the suit even though this game isn't built on accuracy. I reckon your Metroid Hunters idea is far superior to that. I like the green one the most :)
It would be cool to have Dark Samus move creepily, for instance, instead of walking it could hover around (Since I remember it doing that A LOT in Metroid Prime 2. Well, I guess it could work if they make slight alterations. After all, in Super Smash Bros. Melee they had Mario and Dr.Mario, which was basically just Mario in a doctor's outfit and different moves.
 

Nazulu

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TKretts3 said:
Nazulu said:
TKretts3 said:
Maybe there come be something along the lines of the Sheik/Zelda combo in the other Smash Bros games. However, rather than switching in the middle of the game you could only switch in the character select screen. Though, this would cause a problem as this is currently how one would select between Samus and Zero-Suit Samus.

I don't know, I admit that it would be awesome to play as Metroid Prime 2's Dark Samus, but I don't see a way to make it work efficiently. :(
I meant as separate characters altogether. I don't know, I reckon they can get away with it just fine. Maybe they can make Dark Samus have a different stance and move in a creep way, or maybe just bigger and edged out. If they can get away with Toon Link and Star Wolf and there similar move set, I really doubt anyone would have a problem.

Honestly, I hope they drop Zamus. Her super was pretty stupid and more people preferred using her since she could move quicker. It really doesn't make sense to me to her have her as tough out of the suit even though this game isn't built on accuracy. I reckon your Metroid Hunters idea is far superior to that. I like the green one the most :)
It would be cool to have Dark Samus move creepily, for instance, instead of walking it could hover around (Since I remember it doing that A LOT in Metroid Prime 2. Well, I guess it could work if they make slight alterations. After all, in Super Smash Bros. Melee they had Mario and Dr.Mario, which was basically just Mario in a doctor's outfit and different moves.
I forgot dark Samus hovered. I need to play MP2 again.

What you said originally still stands though (looking very similar) because Sakurai wants to kill off all the clones. BUT THEN AGAIN, I bet he will get rid of some old character and give the new characters roughly the same move set. Taking bets anyone?

I'll bring up Dark Samus with our ideas up on the Nintendo forums again and see if anyone cares.
 

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Not really a Smash Bros fan anyway, but I'd play with the trainer as much as anyone else, I imagine.

The real question is, who are we *losing* to make room? Obviously not Mario or Link, but if she replaced someone more iconic like Peach or Samus I'd be pissed.
 

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GratchDDO said:
The Wii fit trainer does not belong in a brawling game because they are not a "character". There's no definition or iconic history. There's just... instructional blah.

It would be like a new X-men movie with a some girl who's called an X-men but who just kind of hangs around but doesn't do anything, has no face and is just there. BLAH. Or like a Transformers movie where some stupid, boring kid takes away Robots smashing each other screen time to yell at the robots for stomping in his garden. Oh wait. You're all just a bunch of Michael Bay fans.
I would argue that Wii Fit Trainer is iconic. Just because she hasn't been around as long doesn't make her any less of a Nintendo icon, it just makes her a new one.

If you were to ask the average person (please note, not "average gamer") about the Wii, the Wii Fit series is likely to be brought up. Perhaps not the character, but then again, was that not the situation with Roy and Marth in Melee? Many western gamers-particularly younger ones-had never heard of either of those characters. If they were extra-nerdy, they may have heard about the Fire Emblem series but never played the games, since none of the Fire Emblem games had had western release at that time (please correct me if I am wrong.)

The point is, they are bringing in a character from a modern release. While not as widely known or recognizable as Mario or Link, this has never stopped Nintendo from character inclusion in previous Smash Bros. titles.
 

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God this whole thing reeks of gimmick! When she said that the Wii fit drone and the animal crossing dude were added, but Nintendo wants to make it clear they weren't last minute cheap gimmicks, I laughed so hard! Of course its a cheap gimmick. The Wii fit drone is NOT a character; she's the distinct lack of a character. She is a non-judgmental friendly and approachable representation of the player. She has no personality or motivation beyond that which the player gives her. Its like throwing in a Perfect Dark meat sim as a character and claiming it wasn't cheap nostalgia.
The animal crossing dude I have less to say about because I never played the games. Don't know him, never will. But I do know he's not a classic character. So no idea why he's in such a...respected...title.

I'd rather see one of the TMNT, or Princess Ruto. Hell, grab the cyber commando from Contra or Joana Dark herself! Now that'd be a fan-boys dream. Zero-suit Samaus vs. Joana Dark in a brawl. And Leonardo vs. Link.
Hell, grab Jessica f-ing Rabbit and have her bonk things on the head with a cartoon hammer!
 

Darxide

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The Wii-fit Trainer was real?! I thought it was a joke this whole time. Someone please tell me it's actually a joke?