Escapist Podcast: 102: Open World Games & Batman in Man of Steel Sequel

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Uriain

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Shinsei-J said:
Attack on Pacific Rim is an amazing combo.
I'd watch its anime.
You can loose some stuff from spoilers but I don't mind to much.
Very awesome!
 

bliebblob

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JonB said:
bliebblob said:
There's at least one more factor in the whole spoiler thing that you didn't touch on at all: regions.
You're completely right. It's not cool to spoiler things for people that they can't watch at all or have to wait for. That's a complete exception to any other spoiler rule.
Actually, I feel it's pretty justified as the alternative is completely unreasonable. You can't seriously expect the whole internet to keep it's mouth shut for a full year, especially if it's about something as prominent in current pop culture as game of thrones. Heck, discussing this kind of stuff while it's still hot from the oven is at the base of many entertainment news sources' revenue, possibly even this one.

On the other hand it's also not reasonable to expect people in my position to just deal with it. When something is as big of a deal as the red wedding, spoilers can and will pop up pretty much anywhere: news, facebook, even webcomics. Making your only failsafe option not going online at all, which isn't realistic either.

If anyone is "at fault" it's whoever is forcing this delay between regions, but even that's debatle as not doing so would probably mean cheating themselves out of a good chunk of profit.

So yeah... Quite the cacaphony huh? :) Might make a good topic for another podcast, as it also ties into possibly justified piracy and the idea of oceans on the internet.
 

Norix596

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*Gurren Lagan spoilers and Knights of the Old Republic spoilers below*

*warning*

Ok so I believe that Gurren Lagan is still good to rewatch after knowing that Kamina dies and the scope of the show keeps on going uphill until you're dealing with the whole universe, but I would never tell anyone that beforehand. And if someone was going to watch it or I was advising someone to, as my friends told me before I saw it, to not read ANYTHING about it beforehand. Because I can appreciate that the experience is different when you share Simon's mindset that Kamina is invincible and that he couldn't possibly die so it's such a shock for it to come out of nowhere. Also, the spectacle of the ever-growing scope, scale and stakes of the show is presented in a great way such that it would lose a lot of impact and value if you are just waiting through the mountain-sized robot battles to see the planet-sized ones for eg.

On the other hand, I knew the "twist" of Knights of the Old Republic when I played for the first time a few months ago just because I had heard of it and that did have some details that were interesting to see with the knowledge of why they happened. Like when your main companion that is in on your false memories about halfway though the game will suddenly ask you about details of your (fake) past out of the blue - because you know that she's nervous your fake memories might be wearing off. Knowing the twist beforehand did not prevent the experience from being good because even the reveal is done very well even if you already knew it.

*Gurren Lagan and Knights of the Old Republic spoilers above*
 

Catrixa

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Honestly, I don't think spoilers necessarily completely ruin things for me, but I will lose all immersion knowing they're there. Like, if someone says "Movie X was pretty good, but I hate those plot twists where you find out the main character was just dreaming. I wish they didn't have that for an ending," Movie X can still be freaking amazing, but I'll spend the whole time trying to figure out how that dream ending fits in with everything. It won't have the same effect.

As far as time until things are spoiled? I was reading a random thing on Mass Effect 3. Since I haven't played that yet, it was nice when spoilers were hidden, so I could avoid them. So, personally, unless it's a classic that's being spoiled by an English teacher somewhere, I'd rather light warning ("Everyone's seen Movie X, right?" is kinda nice, and should give away what you're about to say) first. Of course, if you're just eavesdropping on someone's conversation, and they spoil the movie for you, try focusing on some other noise if you don't want it spoiled. Random people in Starbucks should be able to chat about Movie X the second they watch it (not sure what else Starbucks is good for, anyway) and not have to worry about spoiling it for someone who isn't part of the conversation (plus, if you don't know they're talking about Movie X, it may not be about Movie X).
 

Strazdas

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Moving to open world is logical. Now we have more power and finally can do something more than a narrow corridor that despawns as soon as you turn a corner, so we can finally have bi and open environments that allow the player to choose his approach instead of forcing it on a rollercoaster.

Stardrive.... it was a fun game, but after like 5 games it becomes very repetative and kinda boring, since its quite "gota go this way or get crushed" deal.

Microsoft defending the privacy: The government does not care. they can force them by law, they can do that without asking. hacking into a regular persons computer is not that hard, its just that 99,99% of the time there is absolutely nothing of value there. the ONLY way to be 100% secure is to never connect to internet. some people will do that, yes, the rest, well, you got a webcam in your home that is a standart, hence easier to program a worm for as you dont need to account for variuos models. An frankly, if government wanted to see me masturbating, the heck do i care.

Spoilers: i dont mind spoilers unless i know im going to see it soon. like i didnt lsiten to pacific rim cast sicne i knew im going to wathc it on saturday. but beside i usually forget the spoilers intentionally or something. and they dont ruin the movie for me, its the journey thats important, nto the ending.
and i do think there sohuld be an expiry date. if a movie is out 20 years, everyone that really cared already saw it, the rest should be ok with spoilers. i mean sure i watched the usual suspect in like 2008 (and it wanst spoiled for me before), but i wouldnt have screamed "How dare you spoil a 15 year old movie" if somone did.