Escapist Podcast: Bonus: Game of Thronescast, Season 3 Wrap-Up

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DracoSuave

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archiebawled said:
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Also, the books are pretty old, with 4 coming out in 2005 and only 5 being recent(2011). This leaves the Thronescast in a weird spoiler territory, because they are well within their rights to spoil the books, but the show messes that up.
I don't think it's at all fair to spoil the books; just because somebody has seen the TV show and wants to watch discussion of it doesn't follow that they have either read the books or don't care about spoilers. And as for being old, I still don't think it matters: the TV show is new, and I imagine a reasonable number of people have started reading them because of the show. "Tinker, Tailer, Soldier, Spy" was written a while ago, but I'd be very annoyed if somebody had told me the ending just because the book had been published a long time ago.
Don't watch this sort of podcast then. Stick to podcasts specifically designed for show-fans only. AVClub does two reviews for GoT, one for book fans and the other for people new to the series.

Can't really avoid talking about the books in a podcast to discuss the books just to suit people who didn't bother to read them
 

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archiebawled said:
DracoSuave said:
Don't watch this sort of podcast then. Stick to podcasts specifically designed for show-fans only. AVClub does two reviews for GoT, one for book fans and the other for people new to the series.

Can't really avoid talking about the books in a podcast to discuss the books just to suit people who didn't bother to read them
It's not a podcast about the books, it's a podcast about the show. Otherwise it would have a different name ("A Song of Ice and Fire-cast"?) and not line up with the seasons of the TV show.

It isn't suggested anywhere that this is a show-vs-book podcast, and there are no spoiler warnings, so I stand by my comments.
It's an adaptation of a very popular book series. The reasonable expectation is that the book series WILL be brought up. This has been the reasonable expectation in geek culture for over a decade now. Discussions of adaptations that involve fans of the original work will include discussion of the original work. Discussions that involve future directions of that adaptation MUST, by necessity, include spoilers from the original work.

Arguing semantics will not change any of those above facts.
 

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Just to mention, (in the books) at the scene of the Tully funeral for Hoster Tully, Edmure does in fact miss the boat with the flaming arrow three times, and then the Blackfish has to take over and hits it the first try. I always liked the Blackfish, and I think this scene helps develop both his and Edmure's character.

Bryndon the Blackfish is generally an extremely effective leader and goes on to do other reasonably bad-ass things after he slips off at the Red Wedding. (Note: he went off to "find a tree to piss on" immediately prior to the murderous events of that evening.) I hope, generally, the series doesn't forget about him, like they seem to be at risk of doing for a lot of interesting characters.

On the note of other characters that have disappeared: I agree, Gregor Clegane does need to come back. If only for the one on one fight he'll have in the future which should be truly interesting to see on screen.
 

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I feel you guys had a very romanticized impression of the brotherhood without banners book version.
I got pretty much the same impression of who they were and what they were doing from the books as the show.

Joff wanting to serve Robb´s head to Sansa was in the books.

And, edmure never does hit his fathers funeral pyre, and brynden does take over, the scene was pretty much a word for word depiction.
 

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Psykoma said:
And, edmure never does hit his fathers funeral pyre, and brynden does take over, the scene was pretty much a word for word depiction.
Oh yeah, I was just hoping they both would miss anyway. :D