Escapist Tug of War. May 2010 [Set? GO!] [ENDED: STAY TUNED FOR ROUND 2]

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Claymorez

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Impossible - the doctor proved he is the only moving variable capable of altering events that shouldn't be altered and therefore only the original outcome would matter. The doctor proved in an episode in the last season that he can visits past versions of himself therefore paradox is always avoided.

You know the one thing you?re fighting to hold
Will be the one thing you?ve got to let go
And when you feel the wall cannot be burned
You?re gonna die to try what can?t be done
Gonna stay stay out but you don?t care
Now is there nothing like the inside of you anywhere

Oh just take the fall
You?re one of us
The spotlight is on
 

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claymorez said:
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Impossible - the doctor proved he is the only moving variable capable of altering events that shouldn't be altered and therefore only the original outcome would matter. The doctor proved in an episode in the last season that he can visits past versions of himself therefore paradox is always avoided.
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Exactly, my argument is that it would not create a paradox, I am arguing against the paradox idea.
 

Claymorez

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628 - tell them Claymorez says they are wrong - post them the video of the past self cross over and point out his 'dead' future self told Professor Swan to go to the libary and therefore directly impacted his future as the original doctor at teh head of time if you will would not have had a future doctor go back in time and talk to him and known Swan would die in the library which suggests events are not fixed.

I thought I saw a man brought to life
he was warm he came around like he was dignified
he showed me what it was to cry
Well you couldn't be that man I adored
you don't seem to know - or seem to care what your heart s for
I don't know him anymore
there's nothing where he used to lie
my conversation has run dry
that's what's goin' on
nothing's fine
I'm torn
I'm all out of faith, this is how I feel
I'm cold and I am shamed
lying naked on the floor
illusion never changed
into something real
I'm wide awake and I can see the perfect sky is torn
you're a little late
I'm already torn
 

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But what about the crack in Amelia's wall when he first met here. Then prisoner zero would have not escaped and the Atraxi wouldn't have come to earth and Amelia would not have gotten a thing with Rory then.
 

Claymorez

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628 - You are thinking to linear - Doctor has no effect as he is in a different phase shift of time thus events have already occured.

I've been lost, I've been losing
I've been tired, I'm all hurt and confusion
I've been mad, I'm the kind of man that I'm not
I'm going down, I'll be coming back fighting
I may be scared and a little bit frightened
But I'll be back, I'll be coming back to life
I'll be coming back to life

And I'm a bloody big mess inside
And I'm a little bit lost without you
 

Claymorez

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630 I dislike the new doctor who


I fall asleep by the telephone
It's 2 O'clock and I'm waiting up alone
Tell me where have you been?
I found a note with another name
You blow a kiss, but it just don't feel the same
Cause I can feel that you're gone

I can't bite my tongue forever
While you try to play it cool
You can hide behind your stories
But don't take me for a fool

You can tell me that there's nobody else
(But I feel it)
You can tell me that you're home by yourself
(But I see it)
You can look into my eyes and pretend all you want
But I know
Your love is just a lie
(Lie)
It's nothing but a lie
(Lie)
 

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I still like Doctor Who

David Tennant was still better than Matt Smith though...
 

Claymorez

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632 - The new episodes are too fast and lack explanation - fine amy pond is psychologically prepared due to hundreds of psycs because of her childhood issues. But its too much. David tenant was the best of the new generation of doctors the old generation is in a different grouping. I bet you after his 13th incarnation dies they rewrite the script to give an excuse to make him come back as many times as it brings in viewers and money.

Also have you noticed since i came back to the tug of war we have advanced significantly :p


One eye on the shadows protecting his fellows
From sun up to the moon on his back
Sent the villains to Hades
A hit with the ladies
A stallion in the sack
You can't get your life back
When right follows left Jack
The more you see the less you know
When others would leak it
His service is secret
Plays God when it's your time to go

Queen and country safe and sound
With villains six feet underground
And no one knows cause no one's found
Any trace of a man for all seasons
Loves them and leaves them alone, so alone
And you and I wouldn't have a clue
Who's doing what, why, when and who
Up the creek with no canoe
Watch out for the man for all seasons
Loves them and leaves them alone, so alone
But safe at home

From the House of Lords
Saving Norfolk Broads
Commoners and landed gentry
His word is Bond
Whether brunette or blonde
Baby it's so elementary
For the man never messed up your life with one stare
See the film you'll know how it goes
But this ain't no fiction
Just check the diction quit pro quo a prose pro yeah
Fellows
Don't be jealous
When they made him they broke the mould
So charismatic
Will on automatic
 

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David Tennant definitely one it over for me, but I disliked the story, and it got worse and more strange, until I gave up.
 

Claymorez

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634 - can you tell where the lyrics of the last song I posted came from?

You look into my eyes
I go out of my mind
I can't see anything
Cos this love's got me blind
I can't help myself
I can't break the spell
I can't even try

I'm in over my head
You got under my skin
I got no strength at all
In the state that I'm in

And my knees are weak
And my mouth can't speak
Fell too far this time

Baby, I'm too lost in you
Caught in you
Lost in everything about you
So deep, I can't sleep
I can't think
I just think about the things that you do (you do)
I'm too lost in you
 

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Yes David Tennant is the best of the new generation. I still like Christopher Eccleston and think if he had gone on for more than 1 series, he would have been fantastic!
 

Claymorez

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635 - So what has happened in the last 3 episodes catch me up please

The faster we're falling,
We're stopping and stalling.
We're running in circles again
Just as things we're looking up
You said it wasn't good enough.
But still we're trying one more time.

Maybe we're just trying to hard.
When really it's closer than it is too far

Cause I'm in too deep, and I'm trying to keep,
All the thoughts in my head, instead of going under.
Cause I'm in too deep, and I'm trying to keep,
All the thoughts in my head, instead of going under.
Instead of going under.

Seems like each time
I'm with you I loose my mind,
Because I'm bending over backwards to relate.
It's one thing to complain
But when you're driving me insane
Well then I think it's time that we took a break.

Maybe we're just trying to hard.
When really it's closer than it is too far
 

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Amy's choice showed the Doctor's frailties and self doubt and revealed an alter ego called the Dream Lord that challenged his survival

The last 2 parter was about a colony of homo-reptilians hibernating deep below the planet (previous owners of the planet) they woke up and tried to start a war to wipe the humans off the earth to re-claim it. Doctor saves the day, Rory gets erased from time. Amy forgets Rory. The Doctor pulls a piece of broken TARDIS out of a time crack

That's the very basic version
 

Claymorez

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638 - so the TARDIS is destroyed?

If you're like us, calling all riders, roll up beside us, no place to hide us,
all freedom fighters, let's unite us, switch on your nitrous and...let's.. go...
Destination, for navigation, man up ya stations, feel the sensation surround invasion,
with communication, move quick, we might avoid contamination

Down, Here comes the sound, everyone pound your feet to this Phenomenon, Now let's make it
loud, let's show 'em all how you move to this phenomenon, Roll! Open your soul, maybe lose
control inside of this phenomenon, just let your self go, and let everyone know you move to
this phenomenon.

Don't let these spiders crawl up beside us, they want to bite us, inject the virus. Raise up
the lighters, praise to the righteous, we need to guide us, get...prepared..to.. go..if you're
like us, calling all riders, roll up beside is, no place to hide us, all freedom fighters,
let's unite us, switch on your nitrous..and.. lets..go..
 

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In the future, yes?

We do not know for sure.

It is still currently intact for the moment
 

Claymorez

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I am 99% sure the doctor is the one Professor Swan killed and the church men talk about.

What can I do for you?
What can I do for you?
What can I do for you?
I can hear you
What can I do for you?
What can I do for you?
What can I do for you?

Never thought that I would wind up by myself
If I told my wild imagination
But right here, I am finding myself so lost
And there is a way, for me to turn back

All the things I see
They are different from
What I had imagined they would be
Everything looks different
Now I'm getting dizzy spells

Its real emotion, shakin' up the world
I'll never give it up
I don't ever want to
Lose this far
No more than I can do
When I am just too wrong
And in my heart I can hear you say,
That I am not alone