Because you know more than a professional? So what if you do have a second opinion?Regnes said:
Escapist Users and Aspergers
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Er... I was diagnosed when I was like 3 or 4, (and have long-since accepted this fact) but I never use it as an excuse to be a jerk, like some people do. Also, whoever said this disorder makes you good at math sure never met me...
Because this is the internet, and even amid the liars and idiots, people with Asperger's are drawn towards the internet due to the easier socialization it provides. I know a lot of people are self-diagnosed and such, but using the internet over physical personal interaction is a pretty solid symptom.
Also such flippant comments are really quite ignorant. It's like people who don't believe bisexuality exists. I'm not saying you should give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but such a generalization isn't exactly a healthy assumption to make. People have Asperger's an autism, and people on the internet will have it. (Also, understanding what Asperger's is goes a long way to understanding why many people "have" it. It's a very mild condition, Asperger's patients hardly differ from "normal" people, it's not exactly easy to pick one out of a crowd, if you know what I mean. So assuming so few people have it is silly.)
Misdiagnosis leads to mistreatment. I'd sympathize more with people who have been living with a misdiagnosis and the burden on their shoulders of living with "Asperger's Syndrome" - which isn't exactly a good or fun thing to have! ...honestly, it's a painful, socially crippling condition and even believing that you have could ruin a life if its a misdiagnosis. I wasn't diagnosed until three psychologists reassessed my depression and honestly, just being told it is enough of an arrow through the heart enough, whether you actually have it or not.Regnes said:
Also such flippant comments are really quite ignorant. It's like people who don't believe bisexuality exists. I'm not saying you should give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but such a generalization isn't exactly a healthy assumption to make. People have Asperger's an autism, and people on the internet will have it. (Also, understanding what Asperger's is goes a long way to understanding why many people "have" it. It's a very mild condition, Asperger's patients hardly differ from "normal" people, it's not exactly easy to pick one out of a crowd, if you know what I mean. So assuming so few people have it is silly.)
People using it as an excuse to be douchebags are the true scum here.
They need to realize that having a condition does not compensate for anything. You're still responsible for what you say and do!
When I happen to insult someone by mistake, I need to suck it up and apologize, even though I have Asperger Syndrome.
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I agree.
They need to realize that having a condition does not compensate for anything. You're still responsible for what you say and do!
When I happen to insult someone by mistake, I need to suck it up and apologize, even though I have Asperger Syndrome.
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I agree.
As a general rule, it can safely be assumed that anyone who uses Asperger's as a free lifetime jerkass licence does not really have Asperger's. If you actually have a condition that limits your ability to interact socially, it is far more likely that you will actively try and be as polite as you can in order to make up for it.CrazyGirl17 said:
I have Asperger's. And I also suck at math.
His post is actually a very valuable piece of information that can apply to all health issues. If I hadn't gotten multiple opinions, I might be taking epilepsy medications that could kill me with a deadly rash among other side effects without any benefits from taking it whatsoever.Andy of Comix Inc said:
And that's not the only disease/disorder they've pegged on my weird health stuff in the past.
You really can't put that much faith in a single doctor these days.
I've been diagnosed with it, I'm not sure about everyone else. I think it's more of an internet thing though, people with Aspergers are much more introverted by nature, I think that the percentage of people who regularly use the Escapist are therefore significantly more likely to have it than a random person you might meet on the street.
Also, if you're basing this 20-30% figure on threads talking about Aspergers, then of course the figures are going to be higher, people are more likely to post if the thread holds some relevance to them.
Also, if you're basing this 20-30% figure on threads talking about Aspergers, then of course the figures are going to be higher, people are more likely to post if the thread holds some relevance to them.
I actually agree with you, having been falsely diagnosed with it as a kid.Regnes said:
In any case, communities inevitably have a specific demographic they attract, and it's likely that ours is one that may be chock full of people with Asperger's or Autism.
Yes, it did ruin my childhood. And my adolescence. I'm only just now climbing out from under the shadow of that misdiagnosis. If I could, I would find whoever diagnosed me and lamp him repeatedly.Andy of Comix Inc said:
See, things like this are notably difficult to determine. Up until nine years ago, I would probably have qualified for the vast majority of symptons of Asperger's. Then I spent a year abroad, forcing me to actually become a social person and get out of my comfort zone and honestly, although I am certainly still a nerd and proud of it, I would consider myself absolutely AS-less. So apparently I never had it in the first place, but if I wanted, I would have had a good case to argue that I did.
As I said, with things like this - self-diagnoses and sometimes even professional diagnoses just won't do.
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As I said, with things like this - self-diagnoses and sometimes even professional diagnoses just won't do.
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I know three people who say they have Asperger's, but don't actually have, they say it's for dicking around and standing out so girl notice them easier. No idea how faking a mental condition gets you girls, but hey.
In other news, I have Exploding Head Syndrome. Ladies, take a number.
In other news, I have Exploding Head Syndrome. Ladies, take a number.
I always read aspergers as Ass-burgers, i don't even know why...
anyway, people are always trying to find ways to cover themselves up to 'justify' their cruel and cold mannerisms on the internet and in real life, i see it as more of a guilt trip or a false fallacy they hold to make themselves feel better about the way they act.
No offense intended to the people who know from a professional that they actually have Aspergers syndrome and if i have offended then i apologize profusely.
anyway, people are always trying to find ways to cover themselves up to 'justify' their cruel and cold mannerisms on the internet and in real life, i see it as more of a guilt trip or a false fallacy they hold to make themselves feel better about the way they act.
No offense intended to the people who know from a professional that they actually have Aspergers syndrome and if i have offended then i apologize profusely.
Oh no, I agree of course. But he's assuming that everybody who claims to have Asperger's is probably wrong. I don't think that's true at all, that's it's a bit cynical. But it is a valid point, in a roundabout sort of way.Erana said:
Yes, I have it. No, it's not self-diagnosed, like oh-so-many people... 3 separate doctors actually. Can we move on now?
I'm not going to lie - I read this as 'Escapist Users and Asparagus'.
OT, I hate immature kids who constantly prat about and act like a twat and then claim they have ADD or ADHD when someone picks them up on it. They don't. Modern parenting dictates that if your child is even relatively misbehaved the they must have ADD, because you couldn't possibly be doing something wrong, could you?
OT, I hate immature kids who constantly prat about and act like a twat and then claim they have ADD or ADHD when someone picks them up on it. They don't. Modern parenting dictates that if your child is even relatively misbehaved the they must have ADD, because you couldn't possibly be doing something wrong, could you?
In my opinion, aspergers is a made up 90's disease, another attempt by big pharma to sell drugs to an untapped market; kids. There is not even a specific medication to use which allows quacks to try every behavior med on the shelves. $$$ There is no solid physiological evidence of the disease, except to claim it runs in families, which is common amongst many behavioral issues that do not have any known pathology and are not diseases.
If anything, I think this "disease" is a symptom of the internet and it's effects on developmental behavior. The internet largely did not exist until around the same time this started gaining traction as an illness. None of the kids I grew up with in the 80's had aspergers, and no one had ever heard of it.
I just don't see how you can have a behavioral disease with no discernable pathology become an overnight epidemic and not think to blame the culture first.
If anything, I think this "disease" is a symptom of the internet and it's effects on developmental behavior. The internet largely did not exist until around the same time this started gaining traction as an illness. None of the kids I grew up with in the 80's had aspergers, and no one had ever heard of it.
I just don't see how you can have a behavioral disease with no discernable pathology become an overnight epidemic and not think to blame the culture first.