EVE online

[Amplify]

Damn you learning skills!

Learning skills were removed from the game a month ago, and were replaced by everyone getting 12 extra points for all attributes free of charge. No learning skills needed.

*edit*
Just while I'm here:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
http://www.mediafire.com/?e26s686a5r5mq5d

Wait.... so the Learning skills are gone, and you can jump in the fun right away!?
DON'T TEMPT ME, FRODO!

Slightly off topic maybe, but you seem like a experienced player;
I'm not to big on that social, mandatory 2 times a week activity kinda corp. What exactly is there to do in EVE that is solo'able.
I'm more of the kinda guy that hops online for a hour or 2, do some stuff and log off again.
I've been in a corp before, but they demanded weekly skype meetings and stuff.

Any advice?

http://rvb.tech-pc.com/

It's sort of TF2 but in space, they accept all characters in any ships with any amount of time to spend on the game, you can just sign up with a trial account, buy 20+ T1 fit frigates with just 10m isk and that'll last you a week no problem.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7599/20110212001426.jpg
That was a fight I had with them about 20 min ago, they had 8 cruisers and a few frigs with T2 parts up the butt, we had 15 frigates with junk fitted. We lost more ships but just one of their cruisers are worth 20 to 30m each while our ships were sub 500k isk each.

Spoilers: If you don't know eve too well then start as Minmatar, fly "Rifter" frigates and join the Blue team because we're awesome. If you plan on staying long term then you should go with Amarr or alternately Gallente if you plan on PvP or Caldari if you prefer PvE. The Minmatar Rifter is the best frigate in the game though so it'd serve you well for RvB.

Damn you learning skills!

Learning skills were removed from the game a month ago, and were replaced by everyone getting 12 extra points for all attributes free of charge. No learning skills needed.

*edit*
Just while I'm here:
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
http://www.mediafire.com/?e26s686a5r5mq5d

Bah. I want my 4.5 million SP I invested in the damn things to be reallocated then. If I ever started to play again. Which is unlikely.

Yeah all learning SP is freely relocatable in whatever you like, so you can instantly get a few nasty to train level 5 skills if you like with a snap of your fingers.

 

[Paularius]

I had always wanted to get into the game as it seems to be a heavy comunity game but i found the waiting 2 weeks to learn a skill to by just silly. Especially as there really wasnt much to do while you wait other than to fly out into space, mine ore, return and sell. Then rinse repeat all day long or atleast thats my experiance with the trial.

I also dont agree with purma-death. Yea sure it makes your more carful and makes it feel more intense but all thats not gonna matter if you just come across a griefer who's had a bad day and wants to cheer him self up. And seriously. You pay this utter fortune to buy and fit these high end majestic ships but then you dont fly them becouse theres a slight chance you get hit. I just dont see the point.

 

[vongola_mist_daemon]

I had always wanted to get into the game as it seems to be a heavy comunity game but i found the waiting 2 weeks to learn a skill to by just silly. Especially as there really wasnt much to do while you wait other than to fly out into space, mine ore, return and sell. Then rinse repeat all day long or atleast thats my experiance with the trial.

I also dont agree with purma-death. Yea sure it makes your more carful and makes it feel more intense but all thats not gonna matter if you just come across a griefer who's had a bad day and wants to cheer him self up. And seriously. You pay this utter fortune to buy and fit these high end majestic ships but then you dont fly them becouse theres a slight chance you get hit. I just dont see the point.

one thing the price is actully cheaper than WoW and you dont even have to buy CD's or even if you do you get a month free. Anouther thing there is no 14 day skill learn time biggest ive seen is 9 and theres so much you can do while waiting for it to finish like socailise, sleep watch anime you know all other stuff lol and it was only your opinion because all you did was mine and you didnt do anything else.

 

[Zaik]

I tried it out and couldn't get into it :/

It was nice to see an MMO that wasn't based off the everquest model, but I couldn't really get into it.

 

[mezzodaemon]

I just quit the game. From a game architecture point of view there are quite a few flaws that really boil down to communication of what the game is about. The game seems to have organically evolved from a space PvP game to a market based grinder PvP game. The interface is confusing to new players (personal observation and observing newbie chat for a month) with plenty of hidden capabilities that are difficult to access and use.

I did really enjoy flying through space. I like the atmosphere but it only lasts a few days. Then you realize the game isn't about the visuals - it is a spreadsheet and menu-fest that has to constantly overlay the display. I've even seen recommendations users zoom out all the way, turn off sound, and play it more like space chess (iconic) than a visually exciting space game.

There are some interesting points to the game. I'm an old board game and table top role player and it definitely reminds me of GURPS and Traveller, with some potential economic play - which is really based on the grind of mining, salvaging, and selling of mission items.

Go try it if you haven't! But I'm dropping out to build my own space game and need the time to myself for a few months!

 

[mezzodaemon]

All _learning_skills_ are gone, but not the skill tree and waiting times: i think that is what you were actually asking about. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824

 

[Pandalisk]

I played the week long demo, i just went out into the vastness of space and pirated the ever loving hell out of it. Lacked a goal to work towards to though, had trouble finding my place in the universe.

Ill probably buy it again, Any fellow members want to start up a group and convert the universe to Escapism?

To be honest its spin-off game in the making Dust 514 intrigues me more

 

[vongola_mist_daemon]

I played the week long demo, i just went out into the vastness of space and pirated the ever loving hell out of it. Lacked a goal to work towards to though, had trouble finding my place in the universe.

Ill probably buy it again, Any fellow members want to start up a group and convert the universe to Escapism?

To be honest its spin-off game in the making Dust 514 intrigues me more

but you do have to admit its a diffrence from most mmos and also it might be complex for people but if it wasnt it be boring

 

[Ruairi iliffe]

Three Goals that keep me playing EvE

1: Building my Own Capital class ship and Getting in on some heavy hitting fleet Ops

2: Playing the Blackmarket, none of this Pirating bullshit, some gods honest smuggling, Found one low-sec to high sec Wormhole route, Time to Make me some Drugs for the noobies ;P

3: Work on my Liason Job untill i make a good few contacts with the big players, then try my hand at Setting up a place in 0.0 to run, Then work on making my own empire

Three years down, think it might take me another 3 to make these goals

 

[vongola_mist_daemon]

i just thought eve should get more credit than what it has and tell you truth i like it cause it isnt easy like WoW

 

[Paularius]

I had always wanted to get into the game as it seems to be a heavy comunity game but i found the waiting 2 weeks to learn a skill to by just silly. Especially as there really wasnt much to do while you wait other than to fly out into space, mine ore, return and sell. Then rinse repeat all day long or atleast thats my experiance with the trial.

I also dont agree with purma-death. Yea sure it makes your more carful and makes it feel more intense but all thats not gonna matter if you just come across a griefer who's had a bad day and wants to cheer him self up. And seriously. You pay this utter fortune to buy and fit these high end majestic ships but then you dont fly them becouse theres a slight chance you get hit. I just dont see the point.

one thing the price is actully cheaper than WoW and you dont even have to buy CD's or even if you do you get a month free. Anouther thing there is no 14 day skill learn time biggest ive seen is 9 and theres so much you can do while waiting for it to finish like socailise, sleep watch anime you know all other stuff lol and it was only your opinion because all you did was mine and you didnt do anything else.

Yes your right it was only my opinion. Dosnt mean its any less valid than anyone elses. Still have to pay for a game where your suggesting i log on, start training, then log off and watch tv. yea sounds well worth a monthly sub.

 

[WanderingFool]

Spoiler

I know its mostly a joke, but I did want to try Eve, so I gave it a shot on a friends PC... I have fucking nightmares of it, my god... I may try it again, but it wont be anytime soon.

 

[mrF00bar]

I would like to play EVE online again, no money for subscription though.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Want to build an industrial empire? You can start right out the gate with your very own mining frigate. Want to eventually captain a battleship in large scale fleet combat? The path is available. Want to support your friends and confound your enemies with sophisticated electronic warfare packages? You can do that. Do you just want to explore the vast expanse of space (the game has ~5,000 unique Star Systems and hundreds of thousands of planets and moons (if not millions))? You can even do that.

But to what end?

You might as well ask that question about any video game you ever play.

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Pretty fun I guess.

Get yourself in a huge corp and get in some fleets, that's where the fun is.

 

[pyramid head grape]

Its in space there should be shad loads to do best being war
PS to all would be pilots you can not or ever get a death star.

 

[Ranorak]

Okay.... I folded. I got back into it.
Made a new character, no idea what my future goals will be.

Also, downtime kills my beginners buzz once again

 

[Vidi Kitty]

I played EVE and I had alot of fun. PvP was awesome but I was always on the losing side of it or unfortunate enough to get jumped in 0.0 space, so I became paranoid about doing anything too risky. Sorta fell out of the game after that, have considered getting back into it but with some crazy expensive ships I would just get depressed if I got them destroyed.