Every human has a darker, more primal side.

[Gwarr]

That side usually shows when somebody makes me very mad , sometimes I cannot control my anger and just break . That's why I go to the gym mostly , it's a way I can use my anger without harming others . That and punching a tree till I break or I'm close to breaking my knuckles works.

 

[Yopaz]

Human beings are just another form of ape, and apes can be brutal creatures (look for vids of chimpanzee's fighting, its terrifying how vicious they are) but they can also be like the bonobo- exceptionally friendly and loving.
You can never be sure what your capable of until its time to do it for reals, but there's no need to glorify it and post some revoltingly detailed paragraph about cannibalism or torture, the point is to control and stifle that part of us, letting it out only in direst circumstances or in a controlled environment, I mean thats what alcohol and partying is about- allowing ourselves to go wild in a safe environment, and what purpose games serve as well.
So basically what im saying is why post stuff like that? I mena why not just go blow people up in CoD or whatnot?

EDIT= A favourite line of mine from a song is "Even the nicest of guys has some nasty within them" and "it maybe greed, lust or plain vindictiveness but there's a level of malevolence in side of all us".

Chimpanzees may have violent fights, humans might be violent from birth. Does that mean we have a dark side that means we want to express our violent behaviour just for the fun of it?

I can't imagine ever killing someone, hurting someone lightly is almost above my capabilities. I don't enjoy stories of torture or movies about it and I don't think killing for the sake of killing is natural. Some of the reasons animals (humans included) are food, property (this includes mating partners and territory) and rage. I for one don't have a side capable of torture.

 

[Jacob Haggarty]

Or perhaps kidnap someone, pump them full of hallucinogenic drugs and leave them chained in a black room with one little pin prick of light shining constantly in their eyes and leave them like that with no contact whatsoever with anyone except the machines that feed them and inject more drugs for 40 years of their life. Then unexpectedly release them starving and clueless in a foreign country of which the language is not their native one, so they look like a raving madman, and the local authorities take them in and put them into a mental hospital. One fleeting chance at freedom and its lost because the guy forgot how to speak normally, and went berserk because he could not understand anyone, and no one understood him.

Now THATS cold. None of this "pin them down and stab them to see there 'reactions' (like jabbing someone with a kife is going to warrant any other reaction that 'OW!') then feed them to hungry goats. Then stab the goats."

That is a truly twisted and devious idea.

 

[Creator002]

I can't stand to watch movies of people being tortured in a gory way, but when I get mad, or even sometimes just bored, I think about the horrible things I could do to someone I don't like. The worst I would do would probably be torture and rape followed by murder. That is, if the darker side of me was more dominant.
Doesn't help that I think cannibalism should be legalised, with guidelines, of course.

 

[FalloutJack]

Well yes, of course we have a darker and more primal side. Look!

Villain Core: Buuuurrrrnnn!! BUUUUUUUURRRRRNNN!!! HA HA HA HAAA!!

That's not all very surprising. What's funny is that some will deny it.

 

[Sight Unseen]

Wow.... I'm sorry but I think you have some deep rooted psychological issues here... I can't honestly say that I've ever even considered wanted to cause any significant harm to another human being (or even any animals) let alone the absolutely grotesque torture you would force some poor sap to endure... and for what? What did that person do to you to deserve that? Aside from a Fable-esque betrayal where they killed your entire family, kicked your dog, burned your house down and pissed on your families' ashes I can't think of anything that would justify such an evil punishment.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Every person has a primitive side?

Firstly:
No shit sherlock.
Strip away all the social and cultural conditioning that we all receive from birth and a human being is just another animal.

Secondly:
You're fucked up. That whole second section of the OP honestly sounds like a hannibal lecter speech or something.
Just saying.

There's a good reason for that social and cultural conditioning...

C'thulhu F'thagn Scriaah Thrac'morr!

 

[GLo Jones]

I think I would eat someone. Not all at once. Slowly, carefully, taking great care to staunch the bleeding once I'd cut off a finger. And I'd make sure to keep them awake, so that they could see it, and feel it, and know that I was eating what was once them. And once I'd reduced that person to a limbless stump, I'd starve pirranhas and send them into a frnzy, then slowly lower that poor soul in. Slowly. So that he knew what I was doing.

Why? To feel what they would. Not the pain, of course, but to understand what they were going through, to sense the pain of another being, to know what it's like to be tortured and murdered. I would take no pleasure in such an act. I would just want to know. also, I would want to know what it would feel like to do such an act, to commit such an atrocious act.

But do you know what really scares me? Thoughout all of writing that, I felt sickened with myself. Which means that, given the tools and the will, I would do this.

I don't think it's so much about torturing other beings (though it most easily manifests that way), I think at the heart of it, it's more about exerting control and dominion over others. One of our primary needs as living beings is safety, and as our minds have developed, we now most associate safety with control. Everything that affects us, and which is out of our control, can very easily represent a threat to us. This is why you see people afraid of flying, or roller coasters, or elevators, or even something as simple as the concern over whether a letter you've posted will reach it's destination alright. Without control over a given situation, we can easily feel stressed.

As for other living beings; well, control over other living things is the most satisfying control around. You can control your own situation in everyday life to a certain extent, but to control the life of another person is something truly empowering. It can serve as a method of overcoming the feelings of helplessness accompanied with everyday occurrences.

Now the best way to feel true control over others, is to put them into situations which they would not enjoy. Things they wouldn't choose to experience if they weren't under your control... And what is a universally disliked by those affected? What is the main thing that you can generally assume no-one wants inflicted on them? It's abuse, whether that be physical or mental. No-one enjoys it (apart from certain sexual fetishes, but that's a totally different thing), making it the most effective and easy method of demonstrating your control over someone.

 

[retyopy]

Or perhaps kidnap someone, pump them full of hallucinogenic drugs and leave them chained in a black room with one little pin prick of light shining constantly in their eyes and leave them like that with no contact whatsoever with anyone except the machines that feed them and inject more drugs for 40 years of their life. Then unexpectedly release them starving and clueless in a foreign country of which the language is not their native one, so they look like a raving madman, and the local authorities take them in and put them into a mental hospital. One fleeting chance at freedom and its lost because the guy forgot how to speak normally, and went berserk because he could not understand anyone, and no one understood him.

Now THATS cold. None of this "pin them down and stab them to see there 'reactions' (like jabbing someone with a kife is going to warrant any other reaction that 'OW!') then feed them to hungry goats. Then stab the goats."

That is a truly twisted and devious idea.

Exscuse me? tying people down and stabbing them? I am offended! And it wouldn't be the reaction right then. It would be the before and after reaction.

 

[Jacob Haggarty]

So I was reading The Glister (by John Burnside). It's an ok book, but I don't really like it all that much because the main character keeps switching form likeable, bookish outcast to out and out jersey-shore variety (insert biggest and most insulting slander at charcters personality here). But anyway, at around the halfway point he and a few other characters go out hunting, and the main character, (Being a jersey shore variety etc.) described an animal as a "big bag of organs and blood." And this is where the thread starts to get serious, folks. The book continued in like nothing had happened, (obviously,) but I stared at that sentence for a long time. And that's when it hit me. Knowledge akin to the fact that thousands of people die everyday. You might be aware of it, but most people aren't really going to comprehend those numbers. You can't. The mind isn't made for that. Right then and there, I realized something.

Every person has a darker, more primal side.

Every Human has a part of them that would relish the idea of torturing another human. Every one of us, somewhere, deep within our souls, yearns for the screams of our fellow man. You. Me. The kindest and most wonderful person you know, somewhere, no matter how deep, would leap at the chance of painting the streets red with blood and littering it with offal.

And since this thread needs discussion value, I want you to think long and hard about what you would do if that part of you overshadowed the other side of you. You have victims. You have whatever tools you need. What do you do?

I think I would eat someone. Not all at once. Slowly, carefully, taking great care to staunch the bleeding once I'd cut off a finger. And I'd make sure to keep them awake, so that they could see it, and feel it, and know that I was eating what was once them. And once I'd reduced that person to a limbless stump, I'd starve pirranhas and send them into a frnzy, then slowly lower that poor soul in. Slowly. So that he knew what I was doing.

Why? To feel what they would. Not the pain, of course, but to understand what they were going through, to sense the pain of another being, to know what it's like to be tortured and murdered. I would take no pleasure in such an act. I would just want to know. also, I would want to know what it would feel like to do such an act, to commit such an atrocious act.

But do you know what really scares me? Thoughout all of writing that, I felt sickened with myself. Which means that, given the tools and the will, I would do this.

For the love of god i hope you're just a troll.

OT: Yes, everyone has a "darker side", yes most people have figured that out. But i seriously doubt that ALL humans are capable of doing something as horrendous as you just described.

I think you've been watching too much saw.

If this is real, get outside and meet some friends, you creepy bastard.

If you are a troll, then i salute you. This would be some grade-A troll stuff if i have ever seen it.

I've never seen saw, I have friends. But they're creepy bastards too, so I suppose the effect is counterracted.

You've never seen saw? Something tells me you might like it.

Also, i didnt mean it as in you dont have friend, i just meant get outside and get doing something else other than thinking about this sort of thing. It's not healthy.

 

[retyopy]

So I was reading The Glister (by John Burnside). It's an ok book, but I don't really like it all that much because the main character keeps switching form likeable, bookish outcast to out and out jersey-shore variety (insert biggest and most insulting slander at charcters personality here). But anyway, at around the halfway point he and a few other characters go out hunting, and the main character, (Being a jersey shore variety etc.) described an animal as a "big bag of organs and blood." And this is where the thread starts to get serious, folks. The book continued in like nothing had happened, (obviously,) but I stared at that sentence for a long time. And that's when it hit me. Knowledge akin to the fact that thousands of people die everyday. You might be aware of it, but most people aren't really going to comprehend those numbers. You can't. The mind isn't made for that. Right then and there, I realized something.

Every person has a darker, more primal side.

Every Human has a part of them that would relish the idea of torturing another human. Every one of us, somewhere, deep within our souls, yearns for the screams of our fellow man. You. Me. The kindest and most wonderful person you know, somewhere, no matter how deep, would leap at the chance of painting the streets red with blood and littering it with offal.

And since this thread needs discussion value, I want you to think long and hard about what you would do if that part of you overshadowed the other side of you. You have victims. You have whatever tools you need. What do you do?

I think I would eat someone. Not all at once. Slowly, carefully, taking great care to staunch the bleeding once I'd cut off a finger. And I'd make sure to keep them awake, so that they could see it, and feel it, and know that I was eating what was once them. And once I'd reduced that person to a limbless stump, I'd starve pirranhas and send them into a frnzy, then slowly lower that poor soul in. Slowly. So that he knew what I was doing.

Why? To feel what they would. Not the pain, of course, but to understand what they were going through, to sense the pain of another being, to know what it's like to be tortured and murdered. I would take no pleasure in such an act. I would just want to know. also, I would want to know what it would feel like to do such an act, to commit such an atrocious act.

But do you know what really scares me? Thoughout all of writing that, I felt sickened with myself. Which means that, given the tools and the will, I would do this.

For the love of god i hope you're just a troll.

OT: Yes, everyone has a "darker side", yes most people have figured that out. But i seriously doubt that ALL humans are capable of doing something as horrendous as you just described.

I think you've been watching too much saw.

If this is real, get outside and meet some friends, you creepy bastard.

If you are a troll, then i salute you. This would be some grade-A troll stuff if i have ever seen it.

I've never seen saw, I have friends. But they're creepy bastards too, so I suppose the effect is counterracted.

You've never seen saw? Something tells me you might like it.

Also, i didnt mean it as in you dont have friend, i just meant get outside and get doing something else other than thinking about this sort of thing. It's not healthy.

I think about this sort of stuff no matter where I am.

 

[Kargathia]

Everyone certainly has a dark side, but I wouldn't recommend dwelling on it any further than the mere acknowledgement.

That being said: I've always found myself to be fascinated by psychological domination.

Imagine slowly sapping someone's self-confidence, by a combination of needling critiques, and the constant assertation of superiority - right up to the point where their fear of you, and recognition of your authority is so absolute that they have convinced themselves that they accept your dominance by their own free will.

I definitely know how - you might even say I learned it from a master, but this is one of these things I do not ever want to become.

 

[Jacob Haggarty]

Or perhaps kidnap someone, pump them full of hallucinogenic drugs and leave them chained in a black room with one little pin prick of light shining constantly in their eyes and leave them like that with no contact whatsoever with anyone except the machines that feed them and inject more drugs for 40 years of their life. Then unexpectedly release them starving and clueless in a foreign country of which the language is not their native one, so they look like a raving madman, and the local authorities take them in and put them into a mental hospital. One fleeting chance at freedom and its lost because the guy forgot how to speak normally, and went berserk because he could not understand anyone, and no one understood him.

Now THATS cold. None of this "pin them down and stab them to see there 'reactions' (like jabbing someone with a kife is going to warrant any other reaction that 'OW!') then feed them to hungry goats. Then stab the goats."

That is a truly twisted and devious idea.

Exscuse me? tying people down and stabbing them? I am offended! And it wouldn't be the reaction right then. It would be the before and after reaction.

How do you mean offended? As in, you're offended that i think his idea is better than yours(which it is)? Offended that i don't understand the genius or psychological depth of YOUR idea (which there is none)?

Also, the person isn't going to give you much more of a reaction when you feed them to pirhannas, so it IS the reaction of the moment that you would be judging. And its hardly like you're going to eat one finger to a chorus of hearty laughing, and another to mild agitation. All the fingers will be eaten to a sound track of the 100 greatest screams of all time.

 

[Cheesus333]

Watching surgery makes me cringe. Yet oddly enough, I found the dissections in Biology fascinating and enjoyable.

Maybe there's something in that. Maybe I don't mind what happens to a corpse, but when it's a living thing it becomes macabre and creepy for me.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Personally, I'd like to find some people who have dog fighting rings and tear them limb from limb, Alex Mercer style.

...I have anger issues, okay?

Or, better yet, get their dogs to rip them limb from limb. Irony!

Ah, irony. I like the way you think. ^^

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

If I have a primal "I want to destroy something" side to me, it's buried WAAAAAAAAAAY deep.

I can't even kill things in my dreams (unless I make them vanish when they die, IE I blow them up into sand). I have to resort to non-lethal methods to take down almost anything in my dreams, even if my life is on the line. Still a pacifist even in my dreams, apparently.

That being said, if someone killed my friends, family and girlfriend in front of me, and then beat me to within an inch of life, and then I got easy-to-use-but-incredibly-powerful superpowers...yes, I would snap and go on a bloody rampage, starting with that guy. I won't deny that one bit. But even then, I'd finish the guy with one spectacular blast, not torture him slowly.

So no, I wouldn't want to torture anyone. Beat the crap out of, maybe (shakes fist at memories of high school assholes), but kill? Nope. Torture? HELL NO.

 

[Dogstile]

Eh, I've already let my darker side out. Unless this is my normal side, in which case the next time i'm mugged i'm going to have to do more than snap the gits fingers.

 

[Matt King]

i think the film the mist said somthing simaler (but through a different context)
"i don't believe that, i believe that the average person is good and sharing"
"yeah as long as the power is running and you can call 911, but if you take that away and scare the sh*t out of them, then they're just animals"

 

[Yopaz]

That side definately exists. When I was younger, I learned at some point my girlfriend at that time had been sexually abused by her stepdad. If that guy was in the room at that moment, I'd probably still be in prison, because I would've killed him in the most horrible way I could come up with, definately felt like doing that to him anyway. What followed was a years long drama with incompetent child protection services, and trying to get her to graduate from school and keep her mentally stable despite what her parents tried to do to her. You could describe my dealings with the mother (who choose for the stepdad and against her daughter), the stepdad and a few of the more sinister character of child protection services as 'driven by rage'. The injustice is just so great it's a great motivator.

Then later with my wife, we lived together in student housing, when members of our former church began to harass us, primarily her. It took a great toll on her, but at some point she rang me in panic. A church elder had shown up and invaded our house, and was actually in the living room trying to intimidate her. I pretty much dropped my purchases, raced home, and when I found him in the living room, trying to smash my wife's room door as well, everything in me was screaming bloody murder. In the end I just grabbed a hold of him, dragged him through the corridor and tossed him out, blocking a few half-serious punches and threatening him I'd fuck him up if we ever saw him again. During that I had concrete thoughts like "What if I half-close the door when I push him through, smashing his face into it and saying to the police it happened in the struggle?" or "Why not smash his face through the front door window and claim he fell over?".

I never acted upon those feelings, they don't cancel out sense and reason, but they definately exist. It's scary stuff really. It feels like your primary will at such a moment is to inflict a lot of harm on someone, and it feels like you'd greatly enjoy doing so as well.

Is that really a dark side though? Were you thinking about doing those things you were thinking for the joy of it, or in anger?
What you felt was a reaction to something. And hurting someone who forced himself into your housing and harassed your wife is not dark at all. It's primal, but not unjustified. If you didn't keep thinking that you should hurt him later it means the thought was an impulsive one brought on by rage.