Everything You Know about Anime Is Wrong

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Provocative title got your attention? Good! Read on, dear reader! Don't worry, this isn't a rant, it's an article. ;)

Everything You Know about Anime Is Wrong​
Japanese animation ("anime") and the internet have a strange relationship. There was once a time (late 90s, early 2000s to be precise) where if you liked video games, and hung out on the internet, you generally liked anime too. Now, it seems like anime has somehow replaced furries as the internet's favourite punching bag. But this is a subject for a whole other time, so let's keep moving along shall we?

As tends to happen when people level distaste at something they have little actual experience with, there's a lot of misconceptions that are flat-out wrong. But it's not just the "haters" who are wrong. Oh no, the fans of the thing are very wrong too. So stand to the side over there, my fellow otaku, I'll be putting you guys though the grinder in a moment. What makes me qualified to say I'm right? A combination of close to 10 years of watching anime, over 440 different series, and having lived in Japan. I also read a lot. Feel free to disagree at your peril! ;)

Part One: The Those Who Profess Disgust for Something They Have No Experience With (A.K.A "Haters")​

To be perfectly honest, much of this post will be directed at you guys. You guys who, from the rooftops of the internet cry "anime is for paedophiles!" "anime is weird!" "anime is all !" So let's begin with the very basics.

Chapter I: "Anime is all X!"
Let's get down to brass tacks, the number one accusation people level at anime is that it's all one particular thing. Be it angsty teens with spiky hair and massive swords, pedo bait, schoolgirls with huge eyes or tentacle porn, somehow anime is all the same thing, but that same thing is never the same thing. Well, to begin with: ANIME IS NOT A "GENRE". IT'S A "MEDIUM".

*EDIT* It seems a number of people have misinterpreted what I meant by this, probably because they didn't read any further. When I said "ANIME IS NOT A "GENRE". IT'S A "MEDIUM"", I don't mean that I think there's a special medium called "anime". What I was implying is that it's simply part of the medium of "animation", something I thought I made clear a few paragraphs down when I said "They're both part of the "medium" of animation!"

For those unfamiliar with the difference, here's the dictionary definition of the two:
Genre: A class or category of artistic endeavour having a particular form, content, technique, or the like
Medium: The category of a work of art, as determined by its materials and methods of production
What makes Japanese animation a "medium" and not a "genre"? Simple! A genre requires the content and themes of a work to be similar, while the content and themes between two anime can be radically different. For example, let's compare Bartender to Victorian Romance Emma


Bartender


Victorian Romance Emma

The first is a drama series about a talented young bartender, who helps his customers with their problems by serving them a particular cocktail, explains the history of the drink and how it relates to the customer's situation. The second is a romance set in Victorian London about the forbidden relationship between the son of a noble family and a maid.

Are the form, content or technique between these two series similar? No? Ah! But there's one area in which they are. The materials and methods of production used. They're both part of the "medium" of animation! Basically, saying that all anime are the same, would be like saying all American movies are about cars and explosions based on the fact you've seen Michael Bay's Transformers. Which is an incredible disservice to all the other films that are not Transformers and are nothing like Transformers.

Anime can be about anything, and often is about anything. Everything from coming-of-age dramas set in art collage (Honey and Clover), philosophy on culture and society (Kino's Journey), comedies about university clubs (Genshiken), immortal mobsters in Prohibition-era America (Baccano!), hard science-fiction about the future of space-based occupations (Planetes) to anime about making anime (Animation Runner Kuromi-chan. "Yo dawg we heard you like anime..."). Even themes that we consider traditional here in the West are represented. Vampires (Hellsing), romantic comedies (Lovely Complex), 80s style action (Gunsmith Cats), zombies (High School of the Dead), war (Grave of the Fireflies) and murder-mystery (Monster) are all here.

Chapter II: "All Anime Look the Same!"
Let's play a quick game shall we? I'm going to post five images from five different animations. I want you to identify which country they're from, (I'm assuming you don't actually recognise them). Ready? GO!

A) America
B) France
C) Japan
E) Eastern Europe

A) America
B) France
C) Japan
E) Eastern Europe

A) America
B) France
C) Japan
E) Eastern Europe

A) America
B) France
C) Japan
E) Eastern Europe

A) America
B) France
C) Japan
E) Eastern Europe


All done? If you answered anything other than "C) Japan", you're wrong. All these images are from Japanese animations (La Maison en Petits Cubes, Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt, FLAG, Tekkonkinkreet and Sailor Moon respectively). So why does only the last one look like what most people think of as "anime"?

As I've already said, anime isn't a "genre" and this extends to the art too. The director can have whatever kind of art style he wants to use, and so long as it's animation from Japan, made for a Japanese audience, it's still "anime".

However, the vast majority of anime do indeed share a similar art style, owing to a combination of "it provides a good balance between looking good while not being expensive to animate" and "people expect it to look like this". However, the common art style people think of is stuck firmly somewhere in 1993. Here's more what I consider the modern "common" anime style to look like:


K-ON!

Of note are the realistic hair colors and body proportions (real Japanese girls have short, chubby legs like the K-ON! girls). The eyes, while still larger than real humans (you can thank Disney for this, he found that giving characters larger eyes makes them cuter and more expressive, something which Japanese animators copied) are not as absurdly large as the 90s style. The overall look is also "softer" and not as "harsh" as older anime, probably due to modern anime being done on computers with digital effects instead of on cells.

Even among anime that have a similar look, there will usually be a little something that gives a particular series it's own distinct flair. For example:

House of Five Leaves with it's unique facial designs


Working!! with it's distinctive "gradient" hair colors


Bakemonogatari with it's... Everything.

And these are just a few examples of the many anime out there like this. So anyway, I've talked about you guys long enough, time to give the otaku a good grilling!

Part Two: Tough Love for the Otaku

Ah, my fellow Japanese animation fan! Did you know that everything you know about anime is wrong? Here's why!

Chapter I: Everyone in Japan Watches and Loves Anime!
Do you know what the top three highest-ranked animated programs in Japan were for December 26th to January 1st were? Doraemon, Tamagotchi! and Shaun the Sheep. All family-oriented shows, one of which isn't even Japanese. Sazae-san usually ranks pretty high up too. "Sazae who?" I hear you say? Sazae-san, it's an animated series that's been airing since 1969 and has over 3000 episodes, surely you've heard of it? No? About the closest thing we have to what fans would call "anime" is Naruto Shippuden all the way in 9th place.


Sazae-san, a popular, long-running "anime"

You know how people on the interent tease you about being a weird closet paedophile for watching anime? Yeah, that totally happens in Japan too. Here's the thing, while Japan does indeed treat animation much better than the West does [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnimationAgeGhetto], the vast majority of it is watched by, and created for, the fans. People who the average person sees represented in the media as fat creeps who take up-skirt photos of strangers and murder and eat little girls [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki]. Also, the word "otaku" has a LOT of negative connotations in Japan, so you really shouldn't identify yourself with it.

In fact, one of the big issues in the Japanese animation industry has been expanding their audience beyond the typical young male demographic. The "noitaminA" (read it backwards ;)) programming block was created with this very purpose, and airs shows like Hataraki Man, The Tatami Galaxy and Princess Jellyfish, unique shows that they hope will catch a new audience, and pretty much why I love basically everything they air so damned much. Tiger & Bunny was another recent show that was created with the intent of appealing to a new audience. They managed to capture a sizable female audience, but it didn't quite work out as they had planned. Last I heard, they were planning a live-action version, which I expect will be a more successful endeavour.


Princess Jellyfish, an anime that appeared on the "noitaminA" block intended to appeal beyond the typical demographic of young males

Now, if you're talking about manga (comic books), then yes, nearly everyone in Japan reads and loves manga. It's very common to see old men on the trains reading some kinda manga, and the father of the family I stayed with in Japan was a big fan of "The Golden Rough" a golf manga. Why the big discrepancy between two mediums that are very similar? Well, think back to when video games first hit the scene. They were prominently played by kids right? Adult-orientated titles were very rare. Fast-forward to 2012, and video games have hit the mainstream, thanks to not only titles that have more appeal to a mainstream audience, but also to the gradual acceptance of video games as something that everyone can enjoy. Manga in Japan is like where video games are today, people have grown up reading them, there's plenty of titles that appeal to a mainstream audience, an audience that has also accepted manga as a medium. Anime on the other hand is in the 32-bit era, there's a number of great titles aimed at a mature audience, but society still sees them as "stuff for kids" or "nerd stuff".

Chapter II: Anime Is Better than American Cartoons!
"AH! HA! HA! HA! Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder." That's a quote from Futurama in case you avoid all American animation altogether. Actually, I'm not even sure how relevant this point is these days. It used to be that new bloods would go though a "zomg! anime is awesome, American cartoons suck and are for babies!" stage, but with the way that the internet has vilified anime, I suspect there's no new bloods any more. Anyway, let's briefly address it.

American-made animation and Japanese-made animation are just that: animation. There's nothing that restricts how "good" each can be. Granted, the biggest strike against American produced animation is the "Animation Age Ghetto [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnimationAgeGhetto]", where animation is perceived as "stuff for kids" by the general public and no one wants to make more "mature" animation. This is largely thanks to what Hanna-Barbera did in the 60s (a story for another time), but the effects are still being felt today. Where's the American answer to Death Note? To Monster? At least, that's the more mainstream stuff I'm talking about here, no disrespect intended towards the wonderfully-talented Don Hertzfeldt.

Thankfully, things are changing, shows like The Simpsons, Family Guy and American Dad! are changing the perception that animation is just for kids, but at the same time, it's almost like they're moving from one ghetto to another. Notice all these shows are comedies? About the only American animation I can think of with more of a "serious" slant is The Boondocks. And Boondocks creator Aaron McGruder is a fan of anime, did this give him the courage to make an animated show that also dealt with more mature subjects?


The Boondocks, American animation with a Japanese flavour

In terms of technical merit, it's largely budget-related. Traditional American animation favours a higher framerate for smoother animation, but unless you've got a Disney-size budget, the drawings must be kept simple and dispense with things like shading and intricate character costumes. Even then, this style of animation is still quite expensive, with The Simpsons allegedly costing $2 million per episode. For Japanese animation, even a series with a good budget like Full Metal Alchemist allegedly only cost $5.6 million. FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES. Advertising budget included. Clearly, a Simpsons level budget is out of the question, it needs to get made cheap or not at all. That's where the tactic of more detailed drawings at the expense of a lower framerate comes in. Despite the lower framerate, the show still looks good, thanks to more detailed artwork, and the lower framerate means it's cheaper to produce. But in either case, give an American animation studio a high budget, or give a Japanese animation studio a high budget, and in both cases, you will get high-quality animation.

So in closing, there's a lot people who are wrong when it comes to Japanese animation. People who don't watch it are wrong, people who do watch it are wrong. But in the end, the important thing we must not forget is this: I'm right. Oh, and everyone had misconceptions and you should keep your mind open to the possibility of etc ect ect blah blah blah. Hope you enjoyed the article! And I also hope you learned something from it!

*EDIT* Added clarification about my stance on ANIME IS NOT A "GENRE". IT'S A "MEDIUM"
*EDIT* Changed the first example from Serial Experiments Lain to Bartender. Upon reflection, it was not the best image to open with, what with first impressions and all. I was hoping the internet could be mature about it, but apparently not. Also, you should totally watch Serial Experiments Lain, it's an excellent show.
 

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Interesting read. But as a moderate anime fan not much of it really came as a surprise. Although I didn't know that otakus and anime had a bad reputation in Japan. I thought Japan was a lot more accepting of nerd culture than the west. But I don't think it's right to say that anime is the new internet punching bag, replacing furries. I see far less abuse towards anime than I used to, and furries have only pretty recently come in to public view.
 

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Yeah, well, no.

If you want to write a complete guide on anime make in more objective next time. A love letter to anime from an anime fan wont convince me of anything.

By the way, 8 of the 13 images you posted picture little kids. Way to go.
Y'all didn't read the whole thing did ya? The last half was anything but a love letter and in my opinion, objective. Honestly, this is the kinda crap from the internet that I was talking about.

You might have a point about "8 of the 13 images you posted picture little kids" if they were depicted in a sexual way (in the case of the first image, she's wearing that to prevent static charge. Static charge = bad for computers. Yes, the person walking in on her is surprised) Japan does have a thing for youth, so yeah, many characters in anime are young. Also, I suspect you've gotten confused as to which characters are actually kids, and which are just drawn with childish proportions. In that case, there's four of those. ;)

As to convincing, well, considering that in the entire history of the world, the number of times someone has convinced someone else to do a complete 180 on their beliefs has happened exactly ZERO times, I wasn't expecting much ;)

Scrustle said:
Interesting read. But as a moderate anime fan not much of it really came as a surprise. Although I didn't know that otakus and anime had a bad reputation in Japan. I thought Japan was a lot more accepting of nerd culture than the west. But I don't think it's right to say that anime is the new internet punching bag, replacing furries. I see far less abuse towards anime than I used to, and furries have only pretty recently come in to public view.
Thanks! If you're further interested in otaku and their reputation in Japanese society, I suggest you watch Genshiken, Welcome to the NHK! and My Little Sister Can`t Be This Cute (in the case of Genshiken and Welcome to the NHK! they're both semi-autobiographies)

Bassik said:
I saw enough anime with my girl to know that I'll never like it.
That's probably because you've been watching the kind of stuff a girl would like ;) Like I said, there's a lot out there, it's a hell of a sweeping statement to say you don't like it ALL.
 

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Thank you for the apology, it's much appreciated. I had you pegged as a troll to be honest, and felt a drawn-out flame war coming on :p

Um, where did I try and disprove that "Every anime features little kids"? Because it's fairly true, many anime do feature young characters or adult characters with childish proportions. Though as was the point of this article, that doesn't mean ALL of them do. The part where I mention pedo bait? They would require some form of sexualization of the young/young-looking characters, none of which the series I referenced do.

However I wouldn't at all consider adults with childish proportions, the "same thing really". Are you meaning to imply that the creators of the show intentionally designed a character that looks for all intents and purposes like a little girl, but gave her an adult age so they can say "she looks like a little girl, but she's not! Fap away!"? Because that's certainly not the case with the series I referenced. It may happen with some of the seedier series (mostly when they're brought to America and the licensor suddenly realise they have a potential shit-storm on their hands), but not with the series I referenced.

Also, have you seen some Japanese women?

That girl there? She's 22 years old.

As to why I wrote this thread, mostly for fun, but also to give the people I was referring to something to think about. They probably won't change their tune, but hopefully there's a little bit of guilt, eating them up inside when they make these claims in the future, because they now know it's all lies ;)
 

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-lots of stuff-
There is art in anime, it's just those damned perverts that have to make the watermelon chested women that ruin it. (not saying that keeps me from watching if it has a good story)
 

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Ha ha, if you're planning on watching the type of show where the creators would put in a watermelon chested women (helloooo Eiken!) then you really shouldn't be surprised when the whole thing turns out to be one big cheese-fest :p

But yeah, excessive amounts of fanservice is a pretty damned good indicator that the creators have absolutely zero confidence in their show. Which, sadly, is becoming quite common. That said, these sort of shows can be very entertaining in a B-grade movie "so bad it's good" kind of way, just don't watch too many of them all at once.
 

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About the only thing I didn't know was that some of those shows with the more unusual art styles existed (I did, however, know that studios with unique art styles existed. Ever watch Batman: Gotham Knight?) There's new Weaboos being born every day, though, and they do need to hear this stuff. Incidentally, I /wish/ anime designs were stuck in the late 80's-early 90's. If they did, we''d have more designs like these:


And less like these:



K-On and the like may look more realistic than the ones from the mid-late 90's, but none of it looks more realistic than it did from the late 70's through the early 90's. I don't know why everything got so much less realistic (on the whole; there's always been a range, it's just that the average character proportions have shifted from the more realistic style to the more cutesy style, even though examples of both styles have pretty much always existed), but it did, and I never did like that change, at least outside of most Shonen and certain Shojo series (where the characters are essentially superheroes, so the brighter colors and more flamboyant designs make sense.)

Incidentally: any animation fans, let alone anime fans, who haven't done it yet owe it to themselves to watch Akira(second pic in the first spoiler). I watched it for the first time last Spring, and it was one of the most beautiful animated films I've ever watched. It's like Disney decided to make an R-rated Cyberpunk movie that was otherwise in their traditional style.

Edit: I missed the comment about The Simpsons the first time around. The reason that show is so expensive to make has less to do with the animation, and more to do with the way voice actor contracts work. That show has had the same voice actors working on it for the last twenty something years, and the standard contract requires them to make more money every year. The show has been going on so long that that's actually getting to be unsustainable, which is not a very common problem in American animation.
 

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Wrong. The only thing I knew about anime was that it's Japanese animation, and I was absolutely correct. Your thread title is fallacious.
 

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FireAza said:
Ha ha, if you're planning on watching the type of show where the creators would put in a watermelon chested women (helloooo Eiken!) then you really shouldn't be surprised when the whole thing turns out to be one big cheese-fest :p
See also Ikki Tousen, Sekirei, Green Green, Koikoi Seven, Queen's Blade, Cutey Honey etc. etc.

I've seen a lot of anime over the years of all kinds of genres, some good, some bad, some indifferent. The only "genre" of anime that really never worked for me was the live-action versions. I've seen about seven or eight of them and they always come off like hyperactive cosplayers who got their hands on a camera.

As for the "Otaku" thing... Yeah, most of my internet monikers contain that word. I stopped caring about negative conotations years ago. I started watching anime back in the 90's, when being everyone thought anime was either Sailor Moon, Dragon Ball, Tentacle Rape or Sailor Moon getting tentacle raped by Dragon Ball characters.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
And less like these:

Aw, what's wrong with Lucky Star? At least it's trying to look different! But then again, I enjoyed Lucky Star for it's jokes, not it's art style.

Speaking of K-ON! and art styles, here's something you might enjoy:

Goddamn, the 90s were ugly.

Owyn_Merrilin said:
Incidentally: any animation fans, let alone anime fans, who haven't done it yet owe it to themselves to watch Akira(second pic in the first spoiler). I watched it for the first time last Spring, and it was one of the most beautiful animated films I've ever watched. It's like Disney decided to make an R-rated Cyberpunk movie that was otherwise in their traditional style.
KANEDAAAAAAAA!!! TETSUOOOOOOO!!!

Akira looks stunning on Blu-ray BTW.

Owyn_Merrilin said:
Edit: I missed the comment about The Simpsons the first time around. The reason that show is so expensive to make has less to do with the animation, and more to do with the way voice actor contracts work. That show has had the same voice actors working on it for the last twenty something years, and the standard contract requires them to make more money every year. The show has been going on so long that that's actually getting to be unsustainable, which is not a very common problem in American animation.
Oh yeah, the absurd prices the actors ask for on The Simpsons is certainly part of why it's so expensive. And since animators in Japan are paid worse than the guy flipping burgers at MOS Burger, that also keeps costs down.

manic_depressive13 said:
Wrong. The only thing I knew about anime was that it's Japanese animation, and I was absolutely correct. Your thread title is fallacious.
It's also provocative! ;)

Otaku World Order said:
Sailor Moon getting tentacle raped by Dragon Ball characters.
 

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FireAza said:
Speaking of K-ON! and art styles, here's something you might enjoy:

Goddamn, the 90s were ugly.
I think that 90's one is Lime from Saber Marrionette. I definitely recognize that facial tumour filled design.

Was there something in the water in the 90's that made some people love shitty character design? Because the 90's also gave us Rob Liefeld.
 

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Well Anime has a double definition. Yes it is a medium , this is true.
However it is also a genre. When people think of anime , they think of cartoons from japan.
And this is not just because the art style or animation style anime (true anime) all have things in common that western cartoons that share similar art styles dont have.

cartoons from japan are not cartoons from America. They come from two very different cultures.

The humor is completely different.
The violence is completely different
the action is very different.
The dialogue and story structure have subtle differences.


how often do you see western "anime" have characters think out loud to deliver story information?

How often do you have western "anime" characters explain EVERY detail of their plans and motivations, or have another character explain it for them.....

there are of course exceptions , as there are exceptions to everything. But excessive dialogue is very much a Japaneses anime thing.

when I watch the afro samurai or the boon docks not once did I see them as anime. They just dont give off the same feeling.

then again Real mature anime these days is so damn rare (maybe one good one out of a whole year)that perhaps my view points very much skewed
 

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I always think anime has some of the weirdest names, but then I remember we have spongebob squarepants. >.<
 

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saltychipmunk said:
Well Anime has a double definition. Yes it is a medium , this is true.
However it is also a genre. When people think of anime , they think of cartoons from japan.
And this is not just because the art style or animation style anime (true anime) all have things in common that western cartoons that share similar art styles dont have.

cartoons from japan are not cartoons from America. They come from two very different cultures.

The humor is completely different.
The violence is completely different
the action is very different.
The dialogue and story structure have subtle differences.


how often do you see western "anime" have characters think out loud to deliver story information?

How often do you have western "anime" characters explain EVERY detail of their plans and motivations, or have another character explain it for them.....

there are of course exceptions , as there are exceptions to everything. But excessive dialogue is very much a Japaneses anime thing.

when I watch the afro samurai or the boon docks not once did I see them as anime. They just dont give off the same feeling.

then again Real mature anime these days is so damn rare (maybe one good one out of a whole year)that perhaps my view points very much skewed
Some great points you have there, many video stores class "anime" as a genre, so it's hard to escape. I guess if they just put it under "animation" it would make it hard to find the stuff you want among all the Dora the Explorer DVDs :p Then again, it's incredibly hilarious when the staff mistakenly put an R rated anime title in the children's section simply because it's animated.

Curious that Afro Samurai doesn't give you a Japanese vibe, since it's based on a Japanese manga, and animated by GONZO, a Japanese studio.

LetalisK said:
I always think anime has some of the weirdest names, but then I remember we have spongebob squarepants. >.<
Some of my favourite weird names are: [C]: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control, Abnormal Physiology Seminar, Bodacious Space Pirates, Cat Shit One, Club-to-Death Angel Dokuro-chan and I Don't Have Many Friends. But then there's the anime that do exactly what they say on the tin, like: Bartender, Yugo The Negotiator, This is a Zombie? and Library War
 

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FireAza said:
Some of my favourite weird names are: [C]: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control, Abnormal Physiology Seminar, Bodacious Space Pirates, Cat Shit One, Club-to-Death Angel Dokuro-chan and I Don't Have Many Friends. But then there's the anime that do exactly what they say on the tin, like: Bartender, Yugo The Negotiator, This is a Zombie? and Library War
Also Kyonyû Dragon aka Zombies Vs. Strippers 5 aka Big Tits Zombie.
 

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So much of anime seems like an excuse to create adult situations with pre-pubescent girls.
Which considering how censored porn is in their country I can dismiss adult situations with ADULT characters. But really guys...
 

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And I'm wrong?

Hmmm, I need to rethink my entire philosophy on anime now.

[sub][sub]Nice read![/sub][/sub]