Ex-Bronydom

[The Ubermensch]

Incidentally, same is true of Stand Alone Complex

Care to elaborate? To be honest, I'm not a big fan of 1st gig at all, I just really like the logo...

*Fanboy rage building*

... Its so off topic but 1st gig was a lot more conceptual than 2nd gig, which was more character driven.

I can get why someone would prefer 2nd gig but I thought Laughing Man was better. Personal opinion though.

 

[templar1138a]

I still watch the show and view some fan content. However, I stopped calling myself a Brony some time ago. After the Derpy fiasco, the unreasonable number of bronies who thought the season 2 finale was awesome as opposed to a poorly thought-out end to a disconnected season, and the general hypocritical hatred towards cloppers, non-bronies, and any bronies who disagreed on anything, I realized there wasn't anything special about the My Little Pony fandom.

It's just like any other fandom. It's full of batshit, obsessive assholes who think they're better than everyone else because of what they like and how they like it. "Brony" used to mean something to me. Now it's just a term for overly-defensive pricks who lash out because they're insecure about the fact that they watch a show for little girls, even if they've "come out."

 

[Piorn]

I still watch the show and like it, but I try to avoid the fandom for the most part. Also, seeing the irrational hate ponies receive nowadays, nobody needs to know I watch it, anyway.

 

[The Ubermensch]

MLP fans who aren't bronies would be anyone in the show's target age demographic (3-9), women, Hasbro employees, and people without an ego in need of constant validation.

I loled because its true. Why do we need to go into every single forum and make it about mother fucking ponies!?! Yes they are awesome but not everyone is ready. Oh, and no one wants to hear about your sexual fetishes. The BDSM scene is underground, the clopping scene should also be underground.

But no, some one has to go around and justify their fetish... NO ONE ELSE DOES THAT!!! Feet guys? nope. Scat guys? nope. The only guys that do are furries, and for the most part they've stopped doing that.

I'm making Neon Genesis Evangelion compulsory viewing for all Bronys so they know when I say "Why are you jacking off over a comatose girl?" they'll understand what I'm saying.

When some random comes into your forum and attempts to evoke a response then by all means (but don't feed the troll). But its not ok for us to go into other forums and say "Well how come you treat these guys nicely but you're dicks to us?".

 

[Saviordd1]

People talk about this like it's a huge deal. It really, really isn't.

This.
Bronies have furry syndrome, where they think everyone gives a crap about what they do and believe.

We don't, go watch your show, we really don't care.

You certainly like to paint with broad brushes, don't you?
Making sweeping generalisations about not one but two communitiesAlthough the definition of what precisely constitutes a member of either community is rather vague.
That's especially true for the latter. It apparently encompasses a plethora of possibly contradicting interests. And their only common feature appears to be the anthropomorphisation of animals to such varying degrees that it barely qualifies as a single community. in a single sentence is quite impressive.

And I'm glad you let us know how much you don't care. You even emphasised your utter apathy by going out of your way to post in this thread.

Oh and lest I imply something I didn't intend to; I actually concur with the assessment that MLP is by no means a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

 

[C. Cain]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

 

[The Ubermensch]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

There is also the denial of a problem. We as a community do have a problem, its a problem that we share with the rest of humanity but it is still a problem. Even if this problem doesn't literally exist it exists in the social psyche and needs to be addressed. The "Vocal Minority" do have a way of memetic imprinting on the greater social consensus.

Or rather... Bronys, we need less butthurt and to adhere to our original doctrine.

 

[C. Cain]

There is also the denial of a problem. We as a community do have a problem, its a problem that we share with the rest of humanity but it is still a problem. Even if this problem doesn't literally exist it exists in the social psyche and needs to be addressed. The "Vocal Minority" do have a way of memetic imprinting on the greater social consensus.

Or rather... Bronys, we need less butthurt and to adhere to our original doctrine.

Oh, I'm not denying the problem - but I do think that it's impossible to address properly.
I readily concede that these members are, much to my dismay, harmful to the group's image as a whole. And while I can't change the fact that every movement, once big enough, gains such a vocal minority, I can still point out the logical and rhetorical fallacies of those who lump me in with the more unsavoury types out there.

 

[theblindedhunter]

I never have considered myself a brony (even though I think the show is brilliantly done and am up to date with the episodes) for the same reason I don't consider myself part of any fandom ever. I'm really just not that dedicated to anything. The show is good, and I'd argue with someone about it the same way I think Portal is good (well, great), and would argue with someone who thought differently. Not a "oh my goodness you should die" sort of argue, a "let me tell you things you may not have considered, and tell me things I might not have either" sort.
Some people get much more invested in these things, for whatever reason. And certainly there are emotional attachments to characters that make things more similar to a powderkeg than they would have been. I've never quite understood it, but I think that there really is nothing much worse about bronies than any other fandom - they just have the light turned on them brighter than most, and those who get that light often react in that way, no matter what fandom they are in. (Or, rather, certain members, forming a minority of the fandom do, not everyone in it.)

 

[Saviordd1]

Considering every brony I know in real life loves to beat people over the head with their bronydom its a well founded generalization.

You might want to familiarise yourself with these concepts - listed here for your viewing pleasure:

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Anecdotal.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Spotlight.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/HastyGeneralisation.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Composition.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/Jumping.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk163/hbrutush/Rhetoric/ConfirmationBias.jpg

Please keep in mind that this list is most likely not comprehensive.

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

 

[C. Cain]

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

Do you even read what you're typing? Did it ever occur to you that you are essentially espousing the textbook definition of bigotry? And with a certain amount of pride, no less. It almost boggles the mind - were it not for the fact that this is the internet.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Uh huh, well considering I'm not trying to get my ideas published I'll run by my conclusion.
The majority of the Bronies that impact ME as a person never let it go, as such I think bronies need to get over themselves.

I honestly don't care whether that's a generalization, you have a problem with it, fix your fellow fans, they're giving you a bad name.

Do I even need to count the ways this makes no sense?

The "bronies" that you know are causing you a problem, so all bronies need to get over themselves? That's not just a generalization, it's a lapse in logic.

Fix the fellow fans? Yeah, because we can all control who calls themselves a part of a group. And we can also control what they do on the internet once they get it in their head they're part of the fanbase. I think not.

 

[Techno Squidgy]

Some of the bile and hatred I've seen coming from the brony community is more than enough to blow that claim straight out of the water.

Guess you missed the part where I said "on the whole." But whatever.

My experience with the majority of the brony community has been negative. So yeah, to me "on the whole" it's a very negative community with small pockets of genuine niceness.

 

[Xaio30]

People become bronies on an individual level. I don't feel judged by what other bronies do and neither should I.
Rather, I will remain a brony until I do not enjoy the show anymore.

I have met wonderful and friendly people in real life who have taken care of me due to our shared enjoyment of candy-colored ponies, so I have no doubt that this fandom can bring good to others.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Some of the bile and hatred I've seen coming from the brony community is more than enough to blow that claim straight out of the water.

Guess you missed the part where I said "on the whole." But whatever.

My experience with the majority of the brony community has been negative. So yeah, to me "on the whole" it's a very negative community with small pockets of genuine niceness.

Everyone experiences it differently I guess. I was just lucky enough to see the good side most of the time.

 

[Saviordd1]

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Eh maybe it is, maybe it isn't; couldn't care less.
When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
Considering every brony, on the internet, and in my life, that I have interacted with acts the same way why SHOULD I change my opinion? I've had no one challenge my ideas on bronies before so why should I? (This incident is the single exception)

-snip-

See above

 

[Shadowstar38]

-snip-

Eh maybe it is, maybe it isn't; couldn't care less.
When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
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Majority

The people you have interacted with are what's known as the VOCAL MINORITY of the fanbase. Sorry you had it so rough, and keep going to bullshit websites that have the worst of each fandom in it but, seriously, half of the thing I'm reading here make no sense. Just...period.

 

[Saviordd1]

-snip-

The the minority is SOMEHOW bigger than the majority.
I honestly think that the Brony fanbase is majorly the ones I describe, and the ones like you are the minority; there's a difference between vocal minority (See Tea Party) and the minority trying to cover up the majority.

 

[C. Cain]

When you have a majority screaming the same thing at you what are you supposed to think?
Considering every brony, on the internet, and in my life, that I have interacted with acts the same way why SHOULD I change my opinion? I've had no one challenge my ideas on bronies before so why should I? (This incident is the single exception)

You should change your opinion because you are probably better than that. I firmly believe that you are able to think outside of these convenient, yet grossly inaccurate, generalisations. Mainly 'cause I refuse to countenance the possibility that you apply this narrow minded way of thinking consistently. Or do you think that all Muslims are terrorists? That all Christians are arsonists who burn down clinics? That all gamers are deranged psychopaths whose games only serve as training devices for their inevitable killing spree?

Anyway. I think there's a reason why your interactions have been mostly negative. You are evidently not interested in the show itself. Thus the only bronies you used to come into contact with are part of the 'vocal minority' - for the 'vocal minority' are the only ones who feel compelled to, for lack of a better term, convert others to join the communityOr herd, to borrow a term from the local vernacular.. Whether these others want to or not. The more reasonable bronies either tend to mingle with other bronies or keep to themselves.

Incidentally this is the first pony-related thread I ever posted in here on the Escapist.