Explain teenage mothers to me
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You do realise that teenage pregnancy was the norm throughout much of human history, and probably still is the norm in most areas of the world today. You act as if having children later in life is and always has been the norm rather than a relatively recent invention belonging to the Western world, capitalist society and increased gender equality. I mean, someone coming from a different perspective could just as easily make a thread saying, "Could someone explain later in life pregnancy to me? It just seems unnatural and wrong and it makes no evolutionary or logical sense to me." Later in life pregnancy is really just accepted because of our economic system and medical science.
So yeah. Basically, history didn't start in the '60s, bro.
So yeah. Basically, history didn't start in the '60s, bro.
basically this.Satsuki666 said:
people generally generate some kind of "image" of what they want when they are out of school/reach a certain point in their life, and golly jee they are going to get it, no matter what other people think.
(like me for instance, in the next 5-10 years i want to be married and have at least one kid born or on the way. can't give a logical argument to it, just the way i envision myself.)
Maternal instincts, ignorance, and love.
Mothers feel bonded with their children (or so I've heard not being a woman) so some teenage girls feel a bond and want to raise the child. Some feel a need to have a child to satisfy their maternal instincts. Some feel a child will act as some sort of monument to a love of their partner (who may instead feel it is good reason to hit the road).
Ignorance because some don't understand the difficulties of having a child. All they see is sunshine and rainbows and they don't know it might suck.
Mothers feel bonded with their children (or so I've heard not being a woman) so some teenage girls feel a bond and want to raise the child. Some feel a need to have a child to satisfy their maternal instincts. Some feel a child will act as some sort of monument to a love of their partner (who may instead feel it is good reason to hit the road).
Ignorance because some don't understand the difficulties of having a child. All they see is sunshine and rainbows and they don't know it might suck.
Imagine for a moment that this is your life:Vern5 said:
You hate school, so you leave it as early as you can - 16 or maybe even earlier. You plan to find a job, move out of your parent's house and get on with living that awesome adult life you've been looking forward to. But a year later, you're still unemployed and living with your parents. You have no qualifications and no chance at a career. With no job, you don't have any spending money either, so you while away your evenings slumped in front of the TV. Worst of all, your parents are now starting to get irritated by your continued presence in the house. You feel bored and useless, unloved by the world.
Then it occurs to you. There is something you can do to change your situation. There's something you can do with your life that doesn't require qualifications or experience. Best of all, it'll give you one person who thinks you're amazing, no matter what.
You always said you wanted to have kids some day, so why not start now? It's not like you're doing anything else. And babies are really cute. And your parents will help you out. And...
Well, I know (indirectly) a 14 year old girl who has a 1 year old child and is looking forward to another. Yes really, 14 fucking years old. Of course the father has nothing to do with it anymore.
I wish I could tell you, but I've never understood it either. I chalk it up to ignorance of how time, money and effort it takes to raise a child.
I'm curious as to why you would say that. In my experience, that statement is completely false.Alandoril said:
Granted, we're talking about pregnant teens here. Maybes that what your talking about, and if that's the case, maybe your right. Hell if I'd know, most people in my high school were too terrified to have sex (VERY effective abstinence program. Half a year of studying, in detail, pictures and videos of STD riddled genitalia. Half a year of watching birthing videos that zoomed in on tearing vaginas and horribly over-sized protruding baby heads), and most of my adult life has been spent around Army folk (Which, by its definition, precludes teen pregnancy).
As for OP... I'm assuming your talking about the teen pregos you see online/one the news. In which case... they don't usually show the 'bad' ones. I'm willing to bet 70% of teen pregnancies start and end with tears and emotional crippling. From there, 50% get better/livable. The rest go to shit.
I have to disagree with you. Pre-18 is too young (Impossible to be financial secure on your own, unless your dating someone which you probably shouldn't), and, sadly, today's teens are, on average, not prepared (Emotionally).FamoFunk said:
Hell, I'd say 18 is too young for the majority. You may have turned out fine, but typically, at 18, you have no real education and can't get money for shit. Unless your dating someone older (Which, I suppose, balances things out).
it,s mostly in countries where there is a huge taboo on sex meaning there is barely any sex ed past "sex is bad" and "babies come from the stork!".
either that or they don't pay attention to biology.
I also think it,s terrible that they turn it in a fucking TV show maybe if schools start teaching sex ed they might prevent this stuff (since I,m not in the US I don't know what they teach in biology)
either that or they don't pay attention to biology.
I also think it,s terrible that they turn it in a fucking TV show maybe if schools start teaching sex ed they might prevent this stuff (since I,m not in the US I don't know what they teach in biology)
The mess started with the man not manning up. What's wrong with saying "yes" to a new life? Isn't that why nature gave us a dick/vagina? Yes it may sound stupid but i can understand how someone doesn't want to destroy a potential life and instead prefers to see his/her own offspring.Vern5 said:
I believe it has something to do with rampant stupidity. Stupidity is omnipresent and it would also explain why these girls seem so happy when, realistically, they should be sad and desperate and bowing their silly heads in shame.
Stupidity and... hormones. And alcohol. And crap parents. And lack of common sense. And absence of anything better to do.
Then again, politicians have just decided to replace flowers and bees with plush vaginas and wooden cocks, so I may not understand any of this.
Stupidity and... hormones. And alcohol. And crap parents. And lack of common sense. And absence of anything better to do.
Then again, politicians have just decided to replace flowers and bees with plush vaginas and wooden cocks, so I may not understand any of this.
it confuses me though im not sure if this is just a women thing but they do know that once you have a child your life put on hold for the next 18-19 years thats a huge responsibility and i don't think that most teenagers fresh out of high school or even still in school is ready for that.
Another reason...well is it just me or has television been glamorising teen pregenency lately. i mean thaty have 5 shows about teen pregenncice that i know about and in all of themhave mostteen moms still in high school grinning a fawning over being on TV.
Another reason...well is it just me or has television been glamorising teen pregenency lately. i mean thaty have 5 shows about teen pregenncice that i know about and in all of themhave mostteen moms still in high school grinning a fawning over being on TV.
Sex Ed typically is rolled into 'Home Ec,' or has its own class (Health, etc). Soem schools may do it in Home Room, if they have it.henritje said:
Laughably enough, Sex Ed is more common, and more successful, in rural areas... where teen pregnancy is less likely to occur anyway, due to a lack of a large enough social network to support large groups of dating teens. It gets less prevalent in urban areas, where politics actually happen.
I think its because its the female nature, my theory is that male's basic drive is just to have sex, while the female's is to have babies (and to do so they have sex).
I actually had a barren woman essentially admit this to me, that once she learned that she couldn't have kids, he sex drive mostly disappeared.
Of course, you have your anomalies, the Nymphos and the very intelligent women who just really like sex, but I think for the average woman their base drive is just "pump em out" so to speak.
and to be clear, my opinion is that human beings (men and women) should not be ruled by their base animal drives like this, but our society has removed all limiters on this to the point of encouragement, and now were all paying the price because its a well documented fact the the resulting kids grow up poor with no future and often become criminals.(because the young and dumb dad never sticks around - and that's if "mommyzilla" doesn't dump him for someone else anyway ala Briffault's law http://outcastsuperstar.blogspot.com/2010/04/briffaults-law.html )
Seriously, "The Patriarchy" may be a bad word today, but it stopped shit like this and kept young men and women from ruining their lives by indulging themselves and becoming parents before they had actually... you know. lived a bit.
I also think the hormones in our food and water may be affecting these young women's drives and making their "baby fever" worse. I mean, did you know that the average age of "Menarche" (first period) went from like 21 to 13 over the course of the past 100 years? Something caused that, and I'm not sure its a good thing.
Then of course, at the end of the day there is just good ol' human stupidity.
I actually had a barren woman essentially admit this to me, that once she learned that she couldn't have kids, he sex drive mostly disappeared.
Of course, you have your anomalies, the Nymphos and the very intelligent women who just really like sex, but I think for the average woman their base drive is just "pump em out" so to speak.
and to be clear, my opinion is that human beings (men and women) should not be ruled by their base animal drives like this, but our society has removed all limiters on this to the point of encouragement, and now were all paying the price because its a well documented fact the the resulting kids grow up poor with no future and often become criminals.(because the young and dumb dad never sticks around - and that's if "mommyzilla" doesn't dump him for someone else anyway ala Briffault's law http://outcastsuperstar.blogspot.com/2010/04/briffaults-law.html )
Seriously, "The Patriarchy" may be a bad word today, but it stopped shit like this and kept young men and women from ruining their lives by indulging themselves and becoming parents before they had actually... you know. lived a bit.
I also think the hormones in our food and water may be affecting these young women's drives and making their "baby fever" worse. I mean, did you know that the average age of "Menarche" (first period) went from like 21 to 13 over the course of the past 100 years? Something caused that, and I'm not sure its a good thing.
Then of course, at the end of the day there is just good ol' human stupidity.