EXTRA CREDITS demands that E3 not becovered by video game websites, should Escapist follow?

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xXAsherahXx

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tthor said:
lol it always continues being entertaining how people here love to jump to hating things. what are we, pretentious hipsters now?
I hate your post, AAAARRRGH!!!! Lulz.

OT: I don't really know how this will work out. They have time to gather enough support to make a difference, but there's also enough time for this thing to blow over. I don't expect this to go very far since we're in an election year and most congressman and the president won't do anything controversial because they want votes. I'll be watching.
 

Kross

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It many seems people aren't thinking very deeply about the ramifications of what they're asking, or even the appropriateness as to what they're trying to achieve.

- The ESA is a games industry lobbying group who runs E3.
- E3 makes money two ways that I know of - Selling tickets to consumers (industry people and journalists don't pay to get into E3), and selling booth space to developers and some other people.
- Booth space is secured well in advance. Non refundable money and contracts for booth staff, and plane tickets, and display materials and more are all paid by the companies displaying at E3.
- Coverage of E3 doesn't effect any of the above for the current year. At best you can black it out enough so they don't run it again next year. This almost happened a few years ago when the big companies all pulled out over people spending too much on crazy booth extravaganza side shows and E3 moved to a bunch of hotels in Santa Monica.

- Industry coverage only helps the developers who are still stuck manning a booth at the convention, it does nothing for the ESA itself. The only people who can hurt the ESA wallet are those who can cancel booths and cancel general admission tickets.

- You can conceivably call any studio that still mans an E3 booth an ESA shill, if it makes you feel better about them not eating the lost deposits to be part of a cause that has enough of a following to get a good lynchin' going. Like many business/life things (say.. the game publisher <-> anyone relationship), sometimes you have to work with unfortunate partners to get crap done.

It also doesn't help that the more benign work of a group like the ECA is likely easily confused with the business interests of a lobbying group like the ESA. Which helps people forget that like most lobbying groups, the ESA was never something with public interest in mind.
 

Aeonknight

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lacktheknack said:
It seems people are missing something, so I'll mention it.

The ESA is actively condoning legislature that could END the Escapist.

I'll just let that hang there.

EDIT: Except now they don't.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/01/esa-sopa/
Quoted to put that back out there, as it seems alot of people missed it.

ESA has dropped support for SOPA/PIPA. It doesn't look good that they waited until after it was put on indefinite hold to do so, but regardless, that's one major player out of their corner.

The bills are dead, the only thing left is to watch the MPAA rage at not getting it's way. Should make for some entertaining reading. But the point is, any boycott that moves forward from here on in only serves to harm the industry over what is now a moot point. Definately keep an eye on them in the future should SOPA 2.0 rear it's ugly head, but for now I say it's safe to call this a win.