Boy am i glad the "emo" cliche at this moment. I do agree with you on some parts like those preps being dumb asses.
Failure "All the cool kids are doing it."
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I hate school mostly because of everything that has been said here. It's terrible when the chool that I go to is composed mostly of black guys who are "gangstas" and will spend the rest of their lives fufilling these obscene stereotypes, and all the white guys want to be gangstas so they do the same even though in the end they'll have to be content working minimum wage at Burger King or a grocery store because their heroes were the gangstas that are now in jail or dead or doing nothing at all and they were not, they were just a white kid trying to live a gangsta life. It's this type of poisonous virus that polutes school systems and just the world in general and makes it a little bit harder for everyone to function in the way they want and need to.
I'm sorry if this got a bit too ranty, but I felt like I needed to say it, so I did.
I'm sorry if this got a bit too ranty, but I felt like I needed to say it, so I did.
Yes, I have to agree completely. I think a large part of the curse of intelligence is that you are intelligent enough to be painfully aware of what's the right thing to do. Indeed, I think intelligence and true morality are closely related.Angelo Credo said:
However, it's a very small pitch of perspective indeed to consider that often someone who is unqualified has socially engineered their way into a position, and this as much a problem to be solved as any criminal activity...
I was always the guy who respected the teachers, was on their good side, and actually got respect from them. In no way was I a perfect student or a teachers pet, I just treated them as people.
It reminds me of the time my Freshman English student teacher took over the class, I was in there with a bunch of idiots (save about 3 others like me) and I actually just spent a class with the student teacher talking about how terrible these other kids were with him.
(He later got a job at a fly fishing shop and it sounds like he's happy)
It reminds me of the time my Freshman English student teacher took over the class, I was in there with a bunch of idiots (save about 3 others like me) and I actually just spent a class with the student teacher talking about how terrible these other kids were with him.
(He later got a job at a fly fishing shop and it sounds like he's happy)
Couldn't have said it better myself if I tried, I've never been keen on manipulating people for my own personal gain, it never seemed like the right thing to do under any circumstance, I'd be inclined to agree with you.geldonyetich said:
It's a shame really, that such an irritating and infuriating injustice seems fairly impossible to solve, I just feel like I've missed something, when did real, hard work stop being a rewarding and worthwhile endeavour?
I'm experiencing it in University.
I was very displeased, I tried very hard to get into my Chemical Engineering Degree course in a foreign country (UK), and yet half of the people here are partying on a daily basis whilst I'm in my room woken up by their shenanigans at 5 in the morning. I thought in University these kind of people would have been weened out by now; but no they're still here, and they're still living large. Even worst since they're now a legal drinking age, so there is nothing to hide.
It made me die a little inside, I thought I'd eventually see a bunch of mature people who are aware of their futures and want to make it a good one. Instead I get people in my course insulting me for knowing too much or trying too hard just because I want that first/2.1 so I can prove to my parents that I'm responsible enough to start living in the UK on my own.
Edit: People always tell me kissing ass doesn't work in real life, but I somehow can't agree with him.
I was very displeased, I tried very hard to get into my Chemical Engineering Degree course in a foreign country (UK), and yet half of the people here are partying on a daily basis whilst I'm in my room woken up by their shenanigans at 5 in the morning. I thought in University these kind of people would have been weened out by now; but no they're still here, and they're still living large. Even worst since they're now a legal drinking age, so there is nothing to hide.
It made me die a little inside, I thought I'd eventually see a bunch of mature people who are aware of their futures and want to make it a good one. Instead I get people in my course insulting me for knowing too much or trying too hard just because I want that first/2.1 so I can prove to my parents that I'm responsible enough to start living in the UK on my own.
Edit: People always tell me kissing ass doesn't work in real life, but I somehow can't agree with him.
I think it's just human nature to seek the path of least resistance. It's a function of intelligence to adapt. Many people will have enough intelligence to see that if you're good enough of a social engineer you can work less while being rewarded the same. Few are intelligent enough to resist the temptation or have the vision to understand why it is a problem. To take the high road is to avoid the path of least resistance, and this puts us at a competitive disadvantage.Angelo Credo said:
The main problem is comparing your lives to other people, my favorite quote is that,geldonyetich said:
"Do not seek to have events happen as you want them to, but instead want them to happen as they do happen, and your life will go well."
Basically I can be as manipulative as I want but I'd never be happy with what I get.
This man speaks truth.xDarc said:
Life should be about finding your own happiness, if some people don't enjoy/bother with school, then let them be. Usually they are having the time of their lives. Perhaps they aren't the most gifted little snowflake, but they are siezing happiness where they can find it.
When you are old, you will look back on all of the experiences you have had during life, rather than the amout of money you have horded.
What if we reinstate natural selection with a sort of euthanasia to people who just don't contribute? Or if that is too harsh, howabout a re-socialization via brainwashing?Jakesnake said:
I have the same problem in my school, 'gangster' fuckwits that have next to no concern for what happens to them in the future, refusing to do work, sitting in the corner texting other braindead idiots until they get 'freed' from this 'hellhole' and get to go out and get piss drunk and pass out in a ditch.
My personal favourate moment would be when the ENTIRE F***ING SCHOOL, not just a few students, or a single class, the ENTIRE MOTHERF***ING SCHOOL had NO idead of when WW2 took place. I do believe my exact line was; "OH COME THE F*** ON! 1939 TO 1945 YOU BRIANDEAD MORONS!"
The principal laughed and thanked me for my contribution, whilst everyone in the school looked totally ashamed, or didn't care.
Failing to locate Canada, the country that they all reside in, on a map is also worth a mention.
Interestingly, when a teacher actually gives them the option to, or tells them to piss off and leave school for the rest of the day, they'll almost never leave... Gah, idiots, I'll never understand them.
My personal favourate moment would be when the ENTIRE F***ING SCHOOL, not just a few students, or a single class, the ENTIRE MOTHERF***ING SCHOOL had NO idead of when WW2 took place. I do believe my exact line was; "OH COME THE F*** ON! 1939 TO 1945 YOU BRIANDEAD MORONS!"
The principal laughed and thanked me for my contribution, whilst everyone in the school looked totally ashamed, or didn't care.
Failing to locate Canada, the country that they all reside in, on a map is also worth a mention.
Interestingly, when a teacher actually gives them the option to, or tells them to piss off and leave school for the rest of the day, they'll almost never leave... Gah, idiots, I'll never understand them.
Indeed so. As the 4 noble truths of Buddhism put it, the essence of life is suffering, but it's ultimately our craving for something else which causes us to suffer.Darchrow said:
I'm not really promoting the idea to be manipulative to get what one craves, but rather to survive in a world ruled by manipulators. I'm not even recommending perpetuating the disease of lies, as they form as solid of a foundation as a house of cards, but rather considering it in the spirit of infiltrating a disease to ultimately cure it.
Well, in their defense, the United States public school system is LARGELY pointless, and also has a good dose of propaganda thrown in for good measure- especially in history classes, which frequently get visits by a drunken, rape-happy Uncle Sam. The problem is, if one does not suffer through high school, he or she cannot get into College, which is AWESOME!
So, yes, I agree with you. I just implore you to understand the other side as well. Also, if you are really interested into why some kids dislike school, such as most of those with a "gangster mentality," you might be interested in reading Lies My Teacher Told Me.
So, yes, I agree with you. I just implore you to understand the other side as well. Also, if you are really interested into why some kids dislike school, such as most of those with a "gangster mentality," you might be interested in reading Lies My Teacher Told Me.
Yeah man, I know what you mean, got a couple shit ton of people like that over at my high school, a lot of them are athletes too. I fucking hate my school, if you fucking play any sport you get a free pass.
My school is really like three schools in one. There's the AP kids, the dumbasses, and special ed. Special ed is only notable in my school because we have some really big special setup for them so kids from all over the county come to my school for the services. They get locked in the basement though and are rarely seen (hence dubbing it the dungeon).
Anyway the dumbasses and AP kids are pretty much kept on different sides of a fence made of lava, meaning there is very little crossing over and interaction between the two groups. The dumbasses are all in class together so they won't distract any of the actual students. Most of them grow up to either live with their parents and deal weed to the younger dumbass generations or join the military (and I hate myself for saying that because I have tons of respect for the troops but a lot of them end up there). Self correction, some of their parents have crazy connections and they go to good colleges to fuck up some more there.
The AP kids are the kind of anal retentive over achievers you'd expect to find. The kind of kids who calculate their GPA every time they get a test back.
As for me, I'm the kid in the AP classes who understands the stuff with fairly little effort, especially in math and math related sciences such as physics and chemistry. It does make quite a few people irritated that they studied all night every night for two weeks to get a whopping one point higher than me, not studying at all, on a test.
I guess a good description of me would be the asshole who thinks calculus is easy (at least so far). Derivatives and integrals are my bitches.
Anyway the dumbasses and AP kids are pretty much kept on different sides of a fence made of lava, meaning there is very little crossing over and interaction between the two groups. The dumbasses are all in class together so they won't distract any of the actual students. Most of them grow up to either live with their parents and deal weed to the younger dumbass generations or join the military (and I hate myself for saying that because I have tons of respect for the troops but a lot of them end up there). Self correction, some of their parents have crazy connections and they go to good colleges to fuck up some more there.
The AP kids are the kind of anal retentive over achievers you'd expect to find. The kind of kids who calculate their GPA every time they get a test back.
As for me, I'm the kid in the AP classes who understands the stuff with fairly little effort, especially in math and math related sciences such as physics and chemistry. It does make quite a few people irritated that they studied all night every night for two weeks to get a whopping one point higher than me, not studying at all, on a test.
I guess a good description of me would be the asshole who thinks calculus is easy (at least so far). Derivatives and integrals are my bitches.
I think the best way to express this is that people, generally, kind of suck. In related news, I was recently told (by a college professor who's written a book on the subject) that this viewpoint was largely responsible for stability of Edo era Japan. So I guess that's sort of okay, maybe. I don't think there's really a solution for this, it's just sort of the natural state of affairs. That said, I really do wish that American public education was an awful lot better than it is, and if it was better more people might pay attention to it. college has been worth the hell that was kindergarten through high school so far, however.