I remember playing nox on line and people bitching about this was over powered and this was that. I think people just ***** to ***** because they lack the skill to avoide the said skills they are complaining about.
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That is a misunderstanding. Playing to win means playing as hard as you can and seeking to improve your game. The fun is not contingent on winning. You can have fun playing to win against a superior opponent while losing every time.CMon said:
And nowhere does Sirlin claim PTW is the only way to have fun with a game. Just that it's one way.
dang it beat me to it...Akas said:
All is okay. Cheap weapons don't exist in any games. If it is unfair (glitches, god mode, snipers with unlimited ammo starting on top of a hill protected by mine fields.) than it is the fault of the developers. It wouldn't be as much as a problem if people didn't look for glitches and hacks...
(By the way I hate hackers and glitchers with unbelievable fury. I think that they should all die, seriously.
Of course people look for glitches. People want to win. If the game lets them pull stunts like that to win, the game is garbage. Sorry.
And if you're not playing to win, you're not playing by the rules, like some guy playing chess just to arrange the pieces on the board in an artistic way.
And if you're not playing to win, you're not playing by the rules, like some guy playing chess just to arrange the pieces on the board in an artistic way.
If you can't do it in a tournament it probably isn't okay. You know because it isn't ethical. It's like kicking an enemy in the shin and shooting them well they freak out. Yes, you can, but EVERYONE thinks you're a cheater for doing it, even those who also cheat. The developers try not to have glitches. That's why they take them out. You can't counter glitches or hacks unless you also do it. There's no strategy it's just who hacks the most. (Ironically game hacker sites have their hacks stolen or pirated.Enai Siaion said:
Edit: Fixed last sentence!
I am normally find snipers insulting as they would rather stay hidden in a bush than come towards me and fight with honour, even spys have to have balls enough to come and attack you.
Also people who glitch and get things like powershots and go out of maps, if their on my team i just feel ashamed to be on a team where they have to resort to manipulating the game engine to win.
Also people who glitch and get things like powershots and go out of maps, if their on my team i just feel ashamed to be on a team where they have to resort to manipulating the game engine to win.
I've mentioned this in many threads already, but I consider camping to be the ultimate in cowardly, no-skill gaming strategies. You know who I'm talking about. The guy sitting in the corner in CoD4 with a Shotgun and Claymores setup on the wall, just waiting for some more skilled player to walk by so he can have a free kill before he's torn apart by people much better than him at the game.
If that paragraph sounded like I'm angry, it's because those people almost single-handedly ruin online FPS for me. There is no honor, no strategy, and most importantly no SKILL in that type of gameplay.
If that paragraph sounded like I'm angry, it's because those people almost single-handedly ruin online FPS for me. There is no honor, no strategy, and most importantly no SKILL in that type of gameplay.
my beloved shotgun. There was nothing more satysfying when you're playing against someone with a microphone and they know that I'm gonna get them. It's like a slasher movie i remeber Call of duty 3 just one of my favorite moment ever playing a game this guy was fucking scared of me.
Hmmm look my deffintion in who is a "noob" realy depends on how the rack in there kills. Lets use halo 3 for an example. Lets say Jimmy scores 6 points, all with rockets and lets say James scored 6 kills: 2 with sticky grenades and 4 with BR. Even though they both came up with the same score I would call Jimmy a noob because all his kills where with a one hit kill weapon. While BR's and Stickys takes alot of practise to become good with, any idoit can grab a rocket launcher and get an easy four kills. It is no coincidence that all new/inexpierenced players favourite weapons are either Sword, Rockets, or Shotgun.
On another note though, is Unreal any good? I've always wanted to try it but I never bothered.
On another note though, is Unreal any good? I've always wanted to try it but I never bothered.
If you can do it, it's fair.
If you can't get around it, you are getting outplayed, change your play (adapt).
If that doesn't work, something is wrong, stop playing (someone's cheating or the game is broken).
I honestly don't think it's unfair unless you are intentionally doing something malicious.
If you can't get around it, you are getting outplayed, change your play (adapt).
If that doesn't work, something is wrong, stop playing (someone's cheating or the game is broken).
I honestly don't think it's unfair unless you are intentionally doing something malicious.
Resistance 2 has flaws! :O Seriously, Resist2 was shit just like the first one.Supreme Unleaded said:
Akas said:
This will probably make me a "scrub", but I found this article very...ignorant. Maybe I'm not just a serious gamer. But like, shure you may win with unbreakable combo's, or throwing the guy every time he gets within arms length, but where is the fun in that? Is his self esteem so low that he has to resort to win every game to feel good about himself? I think my example is Hero rushing in Halo Wars. Shure you will win every game, and shure the experts have their counters to this tactic, but is it realy worth it? Is a 5 minute win realy more fun than an hour and a half epic duel, involving clever tactics and plans, that you lost? Honnestly?
EDIT: Winning isn't everything I find.
Glitches is automatically and (hopefully) without question unfair. And though I try to avoid it, there ARE unfair weapons/characters. Marvel vs Capcom is an easy reference. Juggernaught should be all I have to say.
Ofcourse, some are just quick to complain, but to think that its impossible for a weapon to be in itself unfair is not really a good thing.
Though only glitching and outright cheating will make me hate you and perhaps do some complaing filing, people SHOULD keep in mind that not all weapons are truly fair.
Ofcourse, some are just quick to complain, but to think that its impossible for a weapon to be in itself unfair is not really a good thing.
Though only glitching and outright cheating will make me hate you and perhaps do some complaing filing, people SHOULD keep in mind that not all weapons are truly fair.
Ya I agree. Like I shun alot of tactis that could rake me in more wins: Camping, Rushing, playing as Anders, bridgeing, HLG, ect....Like what I dont get is, why does trying to maximize my fun make me a scrub? Do all the high level players who will do anything to win realy hate the game and themselves?
I'm very flexible. If you can do it in game, that's fair game. If the community develop certain codes that makes the game smoother(like no dry-looting in certain mmo's), that's okay for me and I will probably tag along with it. If someone breaks the made-up code, that's completely fine too because it's a game. "It's a game" is a very common cliche, but this time I mean in the way that anything that happens in the game I will not take personally.
If someone do mean things(that may or may not break unwritten rules) to people in-game it will eventually mean everyone else will return him/her the favour. I hope people will learn to so only in-game though, no point cursing their name and parents over it even if it's annoying you.
Though I have little understanding, and thus respect, for the banning of certain weapons or strategies just because people use them to beat you. If there is something wrong with the game like spawncamping or unbalanced weapons, I blame the game and not the people.
If someone do mean things(that may or may not break unwritten rules) to people in-game it will eventually mean everyone else will return him/her the favour. I hope people will learn to so only in-game though, no point cursing their name and parents over it even if it's annoying you.
Though I have little understanding, and thus respect, for the banning of certain weapons or strategies just because people use them to beat you. If there is something wrong with the game like spawncamping or unbalanced weapons, I blame the game and not the people.
No its not that we disreagard certain strategies cause they beat us, its because its not overly fun...like playing for three minutes and then having a fully upgraded prophet attack your base realy does suck...thats hardly enough time to prepare your counter.