Fallout 4 pip-boy - All gone!
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I know its just a dumb gimmick and it'd probably be uncomfortable to use but god damn I want one. I'd actually considered breaking my no preorder rule for Fallout, but I suppose now I can save the money.
You can 3D print one always, the blueprints for an Iphone holder PIP-Boy exist for a while now. Price is in cubic inch usually, I guess if you really want one you can get it for less than 120 bucks.Blacklight28 said:
Well that was fast. I was late on discovering that the new Pip-Boy was actually a thing (only a few days ago) and now it doesn't matter since I won't be owning one (at least for now). As a fan of the series, it's nice to at least see something actually be limited for once. As soon as I saw the screenshots of it in action I knew it wasn't going to last.
I still think it would have been really cool to incorporate the device into gameplay, but seeing as how they are so scarce I knew it wasn't really in the relm of possibility. Guess I'll have to scope Ebay when the time is right.
I still think it would have been really cool to incorporate the device into gameplay, but seeing as how they are so scarce I knew it wasn't really in the relm of possibility. Guess I'll have to scope Ebay when the time is right.
Gosh darn it.
Well, I don't have to sweat over it anymore and I can take away the Amazon bookmark so glass half full.
Actually no, glass half empty, I wanted one.
*cries*
Well, I don't have to sweat over it anymore and I can take away the Amazon bookmark so glass half full.
Actually no, glass half empty, I wanted one.
*cries*
If it turns out my iPhone can't fit or the App is too slow you can have my Pip-Boy.Extra-Ordinary said:
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Wait what? I didn't even get a chance to preorder here in Finland. Is this US only or what? It took a while for the PC collectors edition to pop up here, and when it did, there wasn't a pre order option, there was an option to be notifed when preorder would be available.
That's more expensive than my life.Dalek Caan said:
Sold!
Funny thing, I was looking for a video of someone saying "Sold!" to answer yours and halfway down the list was this.
Oh, screw off, youtube.
Nope.Bat Vader said:
If I wanted to insult pre-order culture, there would be better ways to do it.
What I was doing, instead, was joking about the way that the industry itself has trained me to wait for sales.
You know, broken releases predate the preorder culture by quite a bit. Even in main titles. Hell, I remember NES titles which had issues.Mutant1988 said:
Considering people buying day one, week one, or even month one are contributing, I don't think the preorder bit will particularly change things. Hell, people still snapped up Watch Dogs after the bullshots thing or Unity after launch bugs were revealed. Like, it doesn't look like preorder is the problem.
The internet wasn't as big back then and people had to rely on gaming publications for game reviews. Most of which were blatant shills that didn't care in the slightest about warning people about bad and broken games. Word of mouth was the most reliable way to avoid them, but how is that supposed to work when everyone gets the product at the same time?Zachary Amaranth said:
The fact is that review embargos (All the way up until the day before release) and the pre-order culture exist to minimize the ability for customers to review the product before purchase.
The problem is end user complacency. Pre-orders exacerbate that issue. Pre-orders makes it easier for companies to make a massive profit before word of mouth changes people's mind about purchasing the product.
They also make people accept paying for potentially broken games, lest they miss out on the pre-order "exclusives". The Fallout Pip-boy edition is a good example. I'm sure that Fallout 4 will be a great game - 6 months after release when they've patched "most" of the bugs. But people "need" to pay full price for a game that ships unfinished, lest they miss out on the pretty toy. The scalpers on Ebay and Amazon ****ing loves it though.
Bottom line: The industry is getting worse because people keep throwing good money at bad companies. Pre-orders is just one of the many ways a company can be bad or make a profit in spite of being bad.
I would take it as a given that the early 80s had less internet access. Kind of like the lack of cars in the 19th century. I'm not sure that addresses the bit where the problem existed, though.Mutant1988 said:
Review embargoes are a thing in other media and other tech fields, without it being seen as the problem.
preorders may exacerbate the problem, but that's the absolute most they do. No, the problem is that we have a bunch of people wh ocan't not buy a game. Even when they are angry. Even when they are boycotting. Whether they preorder or not, they're buying the game. The industry thinks it has us by the throat. And we're basically showing our throat. Arguing that preorders are the issue is like arguing that the problem with being eaten by wolves is that their teeth are slightly too long.
You're the one that insists on adding "the" when I keep using "an" in front of issue.Zachary Amaranth said:
It is an issue. It's by no means the only issue. Let me quote myself:
As for my original post - Pre-orders DO make it easier to profit from broken releases. Because 1 - Most people don't care enough to cancel their pre-orders at the last moment (Changing people's minds isn't easy - Especially when they want things to be a certain way) and 2 - People don't want to miss out on pre-order exclusives - A thing which gets more and more common and is rather relevant to this specific topic.Mutant1988 said:
I don't mind bashing those that pre-order games though, since they're, again - Part of the issue. The other issue is an industry insistent on pushing out product at any cost and the end user complacency in not actually effectively protesting them doing so - Because that would mean them missing out on games and/or game content.
Pre-order exclusives and collectibles is intended to invoke this response - "I could be cautious about how I spend my money, but then I would miss out". That's why the industry pushes events and services (in lieu of product) too. It's now or never - Accept it or be left without.
Yet you're the one who singled out this issue. You blamed it on preorders and then promptly performed a saving throw afterward. You said that they, the preorder culture, were the ones enabling broken products. And even in your followup, you tried to justify why this dating back to the 80s wasn't harmful to that.Mutant1988 said:
That's not what you said. You said they were THE people ruining the industry. I note you didn't quote yourself there.
The biggest problem here is that they're not the cause or a cause. They are, at worst, a symptom of an existing culture that is unable to go without its games and an industry that knows it. That's exactly why preorders were not n and of themselves an issue. That's why we went decades before people started identifying this as a problem.
You know what hyperbole is, right?Zachary Amaranth said:
Saving throw? That's cute. Pre-orders are an issue because they're irrelevant in the modern international trade society (Go online and you can find dozens of domestic and international retailers) and completely arbitrary within the context of digital distribution because limited stock isn't really a thing anymore - Unless manufacturers want it to be, to pressure people into thinking they got to spend their money now or forever miss out. *Cough* Pipboy *Cough* Amiiboo *Cough* pre-order exclusive *Cough* First print exclusive *Cough*
Root issue is complacency, still. Pre-orders are just a convenient way for companies to exploit that complacency.
