Fallout 4, what would you like to see?
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(This is going to make me seem like a pyschopath)
Killing children. That adventure into Little Lamplight pissed me off so much, because I knew the easiest thing to do was just remove the mayor and be on my merry way. But he had a magical aversion to bullets.
I can't really blame Bethseda for doing that CYA move, but at that moment I realized how far it had deviated from the original Fallout.
Come to think of it, the dark vices that were all over F2 were non-existant in F3.
Of course, it's never going to be put in nowadays; I'm sure they would get sued before you could say 'Vault Dweller.'
Killing children. That adventure into Little Lamplight pissed me off so much, because I knew the easiest thing to do was just remove the mayor and be on my merry way. But he had a magical aversion to bullets.
I can't really blame Bethseda for doing that CYA move, but at that moment I realized how far it had deviated from the original Fallout.
Come to think of it, the dark vices that were all over F2 were non-existant in F3.
Of course, it's never going to be put in nowadays; I'm sure they would get sued before you could say 'Vault Dweller.'
More loot, nothing was really diffrent in the game other then the fact that this same looking generic assault rifle does better damage then this same looking generic assault rifle because it is made in China. Nothing was really unique other then the custom weapons but the custom weapons didn't really do that great when facing hordes of enemies.Also, more dialog and interaction with the NPC's like Pyro paul said
I would have liked some of the characters to possibly develope some form of relation with me. Possibly fall madly in love or horribly mortifide or maybe even swearing vengence on me because of some horrible deed i have done. When i say madly in love though i don't mean Fable style of love because those people all expected me to marry them once i saved the world even though i was already married to my undead girlfriend.Pyro Paul said:
More ways to play through the game without killing. Something more suited to a to a silver tongued charismatic devil, and maybe even a route that sees you more as a benevolent negotiator, where perhaps you could gather, through quests, a small loyal following of specialized minions who would take care of the dirtier tasks less befitting the chosen one.
Oh and add child killing back for cryin' out loud. I can kill everything else in the game... making kids immortal hardly makes me any less sadistic.
Oh and as far as I could tell, making your character tragically flawed really didn't work too well (in the sense that they don't really seem that flawed). Remember in the old fallouts, having an int of 1 or 2 made you functionally retarded. Put that back in, it makes roleplaying more fun and realistic dammit! I want to be able to gimp my guys if I so choose to. Just be sure to put in some warnings so I don't do it unintentionally like I manage to do with all of Bioware's character creators, so that 40 hours later I find out that the wizard I rolled can't access any spells higher than level 5... sheesh.
On a very minor point, I hope they scale back on the amount of useless crap lying around. Perhaps my obsessive need to pick up all loot is to blame, but I've never seen a more cluttered landscape in any game. Everywhere I go, I can't seem to take five steps without coming across a lone milk bottle or a clipboard or two empty tin cans just lying there for no apparent reason. Monsters and NPCs should be cleaning up the wasteland too, I feel like I'm the apocalypse's garbage man...
Oh and add child killing back for cryin' out loud. I can kill everything else in the game... making kids immortal hardly makes me any less sadistic.
Oh and as far as I could tell, making your character tragically flawed really didn't work too well (in the sense that they don't really seem that flawed). Remember in the old fallouts, having an int of 1 or 2 made you functionally retarded. Put that back in, it makes roleplaying more fun and realistic dammit! I want to be able to gimp my guys if I so choose to. Just be sure to put in some warnings so I don't do it unintentionally like I manage to do with all of Bioware's character creators, so that 40 hours later I find out that the wizard I rolled can't access any spells higher than level 5... sheesh.
On a very minor point, I hope they scale back on the amount of useless crap lying around. Perhaps my obsessive need to pick up all loot is to blame, but I've never seen a more cluttered landscape in any game. Everywhere I go, I can't seem to take five steps without coming across a lone milk bottle or a clipboard or two empty tin cans just lying there for no apparent reason. Monsters and NPCs should be cleaning up the wasteland too, I feel like I'm the apocalypse's garbage man...
Pedro, have I told you I love you?PedroSteckecilo said:
Well I don't, I actually WUV you. Yeah, I typed 'wuv'.
Basically everything Pedro said. I had immense fun shooting grenades while they were in the hands of raiders (It works, and it's hilarious), so gas tanks and drivers would be great.
I want more fps. Like COD4, kinda, where both you and the enemies die realisticly(exeptions being the super powerful beasts, like the behemoths and such), iron sights and a "take cover or die" feel to it. That would make survival a lot harder, and up the "omg only 1 stimpack, oh shit, oh shit" feel. Other than that(and Dogmeats constant deaths) the game was perfect.
I loved Fallout 3, but if a sequel were to come out relatively soon, I'd hope it would give Bethesda more time to focus on dialogue and story because they've already figured out how to translate the basic Fallout gameplay to a modern sensibility. (Yes, I thought VATS was great.) Agree with many above, one of the coolest parts about Fallout and Arcanum was the influence your character's intelligence had on dialogue. It was cool having choices where your character with a low INT would barely be able to conjure up whole words, let alone sentences.
Oh, and I think we all seriously need to get over the whole "why can't I kill children?" dilemma. It was never an integral part of the original Fallout, and it's obviously going to get the game censored in many parts of the world. So... get over it.
EDIT: To above (about shooting grenades): That was one of the best discoveries I had throughout my first playthrough. I really just accidentally stumbled across that option, but when I did, I quickly realized how awesome it was to blow up grenades moments after they left a Super Mutant's hand.
Oh, and I think we all seriously need to get over the whole "why can't I kill children?" dilemma. It was never an integral part of the original Fallout, and it's obviously going to get the game censored in many parts of the world. So... get over it.
EDIT: To above (about shooting grenades): That was one of the best discoveries I had throughout my first playthrough. I really just accidentally stumbled across that option, but when I did, I quickly realized how awesome it was to blow up grenades moments after they left a Super Mutant's hand.
Make being a dialogue character more interesting than "See this option here? Click here for the diplomatic route!" Fallout 1 and 2 made the whole dialogue option an interesting and complex puzzle that opened funny and in character dialogue that was why I liked playing the diplomatic character. Getting rid of that made the whole diplomat aspect seem shoehorned in.
Make characters unique unto themselves. Okay, was kinda cute that they made Liam Neeson's character look like you, but, when you play an African American female character in a desperate attempt to get away from RPG's usual "white as the snow, brown haired male" hero, and see someone looking akin to Morgan Freeman talking with Liam Neeson's voice, it seems a bit odd. Now, someone is racist in this, either I'm racist in thinking that it's odd to think an African American having Liam's Black Irish brogue, or, more likely, Bethesda feeling that they can black or brown or yellow face a character and hope not one will notice.
Make consequences less predictable. One thing I loved about the whole Tenpenny Tower mission, was I went and did negotiate with the tower to let the ghouls live there, then left, and a few weeks came back to find the ghouls ate everyone. This tickled me pink, seeing how people had done things outside of my field of view, that they had their own events.
Make both character stats, and skills actually have a play in the game. The stats as a whole seemed to have done very little. Sure, they did some minor things, but outside of Strength (carry weight), Intel (level up points), and endurance (Hit Points and resistances), the SPECIAL system seemed to do very little. As far as skills go, weapon stats seemed to do very little to help or hinder, and it seemed like the Speech stat was broken, even at 78% I was losing events at 25%, and it wasn't until I just cranked it to 100% that things worked.
Over all... just don't call it Fallout. The game over all seemed to be good, but don't paint a Buick Regal blue and call it a Shelby Cobra. The car's fine on its own, but don't raise people's expectations.
Make characters unique unto themselves. Okay, was kinda cute that they made Liam Neeson's character look like you, but, when you play an African American female character in a desperate attempt to get away from RPG's usual "white as the snow, brown haired male" hero, and see someone looking akin to Morgan Freeman talking with Liam Neeson's voice, it seems a bit odd. Now, someone is racist in this, either I'm racist in thinking that it's odd to think an African American having Liam's Black Irish brogue, or, more likely, Bethesda feeling that they can black or brown or yellow face a character and hope not one will notice.
Make consequences less predictable. One thing I loved about the whole Tenpenny Tower mission, was I went and did negotiate with the tower to let the ghouls live there, then left, and a few weeks came back to find the ghouls ate everyone. This tickled me pink, seeing how people had done things outside of my field of view, that they had their own events.
Make both character stats, and skills actually have a play in the game. The stats as a whole seemed to have done very little. Sure, they did some minor things, but outside of Strength (carry weight), Intel (level up points), and endurance (Hit Points and resistances), the SPECIAL system seemed to do very little. As far as skills go, weapon stats seemed to do very little to help or hinder, and it seemed like the Speech stat was broken, even at 78% I was losing events at 25%, and it wasn't until I just cranked it to 100% that things worked.
Over all... just don't call it Fallout. The game over all seemed to be good, but don't paint a Buick Regal blue and call it a Shelby Cobra. The car's fine on its own, but don't raise people's expectations.
I would definitely love to see it take place in a different area, like another big city like New York or Boston or Chicago. China or another country is a cool idea, but I don't think it would work - having it not set in America would lose that 50's Americana vibe that is such an integral part of Fallout, I think.
I'm not asking for much else, aside from new gear/enemies/quests/characters, and more crazy/awesome stuff like Tranquility Lane and Liberty Prime.
I'm not asking for much else, aside from new gear/enemies/quests/characters, and more crazy/awesome stuff like Tranquility Lane and Liberty Prime.
Not entirely sure why one would be so heated about this. I don't think anyone's confusing Fallout with Mad Max, but since it is a franchise at least partially inspired by Mad Max (I'm sure) and since some fans of the franchise might also be fans of Mad Max, where exactly is the problem?The Amazing Orgazmo said:
And don't you think at some point in the future-history of the Fallout universe, someone would possibly come up with a new form of propulsion for cars? Is it really that far fetched? We humans are very good at problem solving.
If you'd rather not have automobiles in your Fallout that's fine by me. I'm in the same boat, I'd rather not go in that direction with the franchise. With that said, he's entirely entitled to want cars in the franchise if he's so inclined, isn't he? And you didn't really make a valid argument against it so much as be insulting.
