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The Harkinator

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I'd love it if they moved away from all the stuff they've done before. I know someone who works on Fallout really loves the NCR, wants to put it in most of their games. But its over, the NCR doesn't fit well in a wasteland anymore. They've tamed crime and cleared out dangers.

The NCR counteracts the wasteland. Its grown too big and now it needs to be left alone. Move somewhere away from either coast, away from landmarks like Las Vegas which can't live up to expectations and draw attention away from everything else.

No, instead they need to move away, no Brotherhood of Steel, no Enclave, no NCR, no Legion nothing we already know. Move on to pastures new because the field you're standing is is about to be turned into a housing development.
 

natster43

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No news yet, but here is what I want in it.
Dual Wielding weapons.
Being a ghoul.
Obsidian making the characters. Pretty much everyone in 3 was forgettable comparatively.
Have an official back story for the protagonist that isn't revealed in DLC.
The Scaling style and enemy placement in New Vegas. I didn't like that in 3 after a while molerats and weaker enemies just disappeared and were replaced with Giant Rad Scorpions.
Probably a feel and setting more like 3's. The Grey, radiation filled wasteland with very few settlements.
On the note of settlements, make them feel bigger and/or populated. Pretty much all of the towns in 3, there weren't many people in those places. I don't want a place to have hundreds of people in it, just large enough to make since for a town. Places with around seven people in a wasteland full of raiders, supermutants, and other monsters wouldn't last very long at all.
If you have mounts, make some of them cars or motorcycles which have to be maintained constantly, and others the animals of the waste.
Bring in the 50 foot tall radscorpion holding cars outside a vault.
That is all I can think of right now.
 

slipknot4

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I loved fallout 3 to pieces. The only thing I would change is the gunplay a bit. It felt clunky at times and the sniper had too much travel time to be effective. But as I said, apart from that. Perfect game.
 

yuval152

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- Choose an ending like at new vegas.
- Sprint.
- Some kind of ride(bike,motorcycle,horse,fawkes).
- Not to put half the game hardcoded(mods).
- More character customization(height,fat,muscles,tits).
- Not to be entitled for one faction.
- Marriage,romance.
- Houses to buy(more than 1,mods don't count though).
- Hardcore mode.
- Fix V.A.T.S,alot of the time i use it there's almost a 2-3 minutes delay.
- Rob(people,stores).
- To be able to make people your slaves,and also to sell them.
- Have your own caravan.
- Smart companion AI.
- NO SPIDERS.
- More gore(that you cam explode someone's arm and they'll remain alive).
- Coop(splitscreen :D).
- A good story.

That's all i want.
 

DustyDrB

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New Vegas was the most meta game ever. One of the big central themes of the story is luck - hell the Courier's own emblem on his shirt after Lonesome Road is an Ace of Spades with the number 21 over it (that is, on his new gift duster) if he *spoiler alert, but you really should know this by know* decides to go Wild Card and take Vegas. And just what is it that decides whether you get to play the game just fine, or if it's an unplayable amalgamation of CTDs and other buggery?
Luck.
Genius.
(just kidding, i know that wasn't anyone's intention)

And Fallout 4 will probably be like all the other recent Bethesda games. Fun to play, good moddability, lame story and boring non-character NPCs. Wish Obsidian was at it. And that Chris Avellone would bring back Ravel Puzzlewell in some way (like with Kreia, for example)
Obsidian also has Tim Cain, one of the minds behind the original Fallouts, on their staff now. Soooo much potential, I'd hate to see the next Fallout game go to anyone but them.
 

phiiiii

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I think they could start a trailer with a TV in a destroyed house, showing Robert Oppenheimer's speech about the bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which will zoom out to see USSR troops or Chinese troops walking past with tanks and their countries' flag. With explosions and whatnot in the background. Or maybe a battlefield with the Brotherhood of Steel fighting. Or they could be running away as a nuke drops on the country.

Then the screen would flash to white and becomes very quite. The picture then fades back in to where the bomb fell (where the TV was) and show how destroyed the place is. The camera shows a close-up of someone's feet while running, and then a group of people's feet (maybe mutated?) running after the character. Maybe some gunfire and flashes. The character runs into an abandoned train station. Then lights a match so you only see the character's face as he/she is sweating and panting. You hear the people that were chasing the character say "We've lost him/her." As they walk away. It's very quite, you can only hear the breathing of the character. Then a strange sound. He/She turns around to see the station is full of ghouls staring at the character. Then the match burns out and it goes very dark. THE END!!!
 

The_Lost_King

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I want obsidian to do fallout 4 not Bethesda :(. I like Bethesda but fo3 sucked I LOVE FO:NV i have probably played400 hours (was on ps3 mostly so can't keep track but at least double of Skyrim which is 200). I had a couple of crashes sure but it was manageable and keep in mind I was on the ps3 which is the most buggy console supposedly. I like story telling in games and fo:nv had great story fo3..... well..... the Enclave was cool .... I guess.....
 

evilneko

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The_Lost_King said:
I want obsidian to do fallout 4 not Bethesda :(. I like Bethesda but fo3 sucked I LOVE FO:NV i have probably played400 hours (was on ps3 mostly so can't keep track but at least double of Skyrim which is 200). I had a couple of crashes sure but it was manageable and keep in mind I was on the ps3 which is the most buggy console supposedly. I like story telling in games and fo:nv had great story fo3..... well..... the Enclave was cool .... I guess.....
OT: I just have to shake my head when people pan the story in FO3... especially when they then sing the praises of NV's. It's just sad to me, and I think that it's not actually that person's own opinion but rather just something they say because apparently it's cool to rag on FO3.

And I would like a Fallout 4... in Texas.

*dons several fireproof suits*
 

boag

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The_Lost_King said:
I want obsidian to do fallout 4 not Bethesda :(. I like Bethesda but fo3 sucked I LOVE FO:NV i have probably played400 hours (was on ps3 mostly so can't keep track but at least double of Skyrim which is 200). I had a couple of crashes sure but it was manageable and keep in mind I was on the ps3 which is the most buggy console supposedly. I like story telling in games and fo:nv had great story fo3..... well..... the Enclave was cool .... I guess.....
I found that not being able to bring every faction of the New Vegas Story to the table for negotiations to be extremely disappointing, specially after learning about what our Courier Character did in the Divide.

You would expect that people would take seriously the monster of the mohave who has virtually fucked the shit out everyone who messed with him/her.


Still the multiple ending options was a nice feature that I would have loved to have in 3.
 

Kimarous

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I'm... not really excited about this one. I loved Fallout 3; sure, main quest was crap, but I really got invested in the world, really felt the post-apocalyptic atmosphere, and even managed to roleplay to some extent (which is something I rarely do in open-world games). I got New Vegas, expecting a similar experience but better, and... it just fell flat. The atmosphere felt more "western" than "post-apocalyptic", I cared for the main story even less than Fallout 3, and NONE of the DLC appealed to me in the slightest (by comparison, I loved most of Fallout 3's DLC, particularly The Pitt). I never got into the earlier Fallout games on account of disliking their gameplay, so I don't have the same nostalgia value that a lot of New Vegas seemed to invoke. That's also part of my concern with Fallout 4... I get this sinking feeling that the atmosphere and nostalgia factor would be very similar to that of New Vegas and that I probably won't like it.

EDIT: In hindsight, maybe the reason I found New Vegas lackluster was Obsidian's involvement. Partly because how I had a much buggier experience than with Fallout 3, but mainly because I don't tend to like Obsidian's stories; it feels like they focus too much on trying to have "deep" character stuff but the overall world gets neglected as a result.
 

CodeOrange

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Let's just hope that Bethesda has no part in making it. For a good change to a year, let's hope their Bethesda has no part in any of their other successful franchises. All of their projects and resources should get outsourced to development teams with talent, coupled with a publishing group with a genuine love for games. Ahaha what am I saying, there's no way that would ever happen.

It wouldn't matter either way, because the majority of gamers, namely their target audience are so low-maintenance that they wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Sad, but true.

what the hell do you have with bethesda they have alot of talent skyrim is a huge hand made game world you need alot of talent to make something this big by hand
Skyrim is a BIG game. There's a whole lot to do, and the lay-gamer who doesn't think for themselves is fooled into thinking that that dungeon they just cleared, or that questline they just completed, or hell, or even that awkward glitch in the game's ai is just a step away from the pinnacle of entertainment when it comes to WRPGs.

Pretty much everyone who I've talked to who has played Skyrim and have claimed to enjoyed it only quit the game because they got overwhelmed by the abundance of fetch quests, repetitive, linear dungeons and obvious optimal leveling paths. Of course, they never realise that it's because they got bored of the game, but how would you know if RPGs aren't even your go-to genre for video games. Hell, even Yahtzee himself who's never been fond of RPGs came to the same conclusion (but still said the game was good, the whole lot he knows about genres of games he would normally bash for "comedic" effect).

Again, Skyrim is a BIG game, not a good one. If you think otherwise your taste in video games isn't so much questionable as it is unrefined. coughjimsterlingcough
 

CodeOrange

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Kimarous said:
EDIT: In hindsight, maybe the reason I found New Vegas lackluster was Obsidian's involvement. Partly because how I had a much buggier experience than with Fallout 3, but mainly because I don't tend to like Obsidian's stories; it feels like they focus too much on trying to have "deep" character stuff but the overall world gets neglected as a result.
What Obsidian Entertainment did for New Vegas was make a GOOD, FUN and BALANCED game with a world with an INTERESTING BACKSTORY. Sure, their choices were limited seeing that they were working with probably the most poorly coded engine in video gaming history, but that's where mods come in. Mods aren't made to pick up the slack on the developer's part but to include ideas that not even the developers could have thought up themselves, or FUN features that would otherwise deter from a BALANCED game.

I myself didn't think too highly of NV's storyline, seeing that it was just choosing between lawful, neutral or chaotic. That, and when they tried to be "deep" with your character, the courier really had no background or personality whatsoever. But say what you will about NV's niche questlines, at least it's better than the schlocky, Michael Bayesque Hollywood garbage which only appeals to those with a low attention span that Bethesda's writers consistently churn out. Maybe it's the mere modicum of effort and resources that's devoted to gameplay, story, balance and mechanics that allows Bethesda to make the landscape look realistic, or scatter around enough dungeons to fool a player into thinking that they're achieving something.
 

CodeOrange

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yuval152 said:
- Choose an ending like at new vegas.
- Sprint. (You'll have to give up a button on the gamepad for that, making the interface EVEN MORE clunky than it already was for Skyrim)
- Some kind of ride(bike,motorcycle,horse,fawkes).
- Not to put half the game hardcoded(mods). (Bethesda encourages modders to make their game both fun AND playable, not to cut out the middle man and remake it from scratch)
- More character customization(height,fat,muscles,tits(what)).
- Not to be entitled for one faction. (A pain sure, but it encourages replayability)
- Marriage,romance. (Pointless gimmick)
- Houses to buy(more than 1,mods don't count though).
- Hardcore mode. (With Bethesda, who's primary audience in mind is the casual market?)
- Fix V.A.T.S,alot of the time i use it there's almost a 2-3 minutes delay. (With Bethesda's inept coders?)
- Rob(people,stores).
- To be able to make people your slaves,and also to sell them. (what)
- Have your own caravan.
- Smart companion AI. (It's Bethesda, stop dreaming and wake up)
- NO SPIDERS (Man up, they may be harmful but otherwise they're beautiful creatures. Harmful, that is, IN A VIDEO GAME)
- More gore(that you cam explode someone's arm and they'll remain alive).
- Coop(splitscreen :D). (Multiplayer ruins the ambiance and would therefore force players to cope with all the flaws that would otherwise take talent and manpower to fix.)
- A good story. (With Bethesda? PFFT)

That's all i want.
Funny that pretty much all of these would be implemented F4 was outsourced to pretty much anyone else (except for marriage and romance, who gives a shit, really. Only game to do it right was King's Bounty, where all that wives did was give stat bonuses). I mean sure, Bethesda MIGHT choose to adhere to some of the latest gimmicks, but expect the words, "poorly implemented" to be put in front of every feature here. Not that any of you would be able to tell the difference.
 

Mr Cwtchy

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Oh I hope so. I loved Fallout 3, and while I enjoyed Skyrim too, the theme of Fallout is more appealing to me.

I'd rather Bethesda make it to be honest, I have loads of fun in their games. As for their writing, I've always maintained that while the main story tends to be.. meh, the little sub-plots and subtle tales(like the e-mails you would find on terminals in FO3 or the books in Skyrim) were excellent.

I also second the motion for a non-US based Fallout. Perhaps not a numbered one, but a spin-off, maybe set in Britain. The image of Big Ben standing half-destroyed over the ruins of London is haunting.
 

SajuukKhar

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CodeOrange said:
Funny that pretty much all of these would be implemented F4 was outsourced to pretty much anyone else (except for marriage and romance, who gives a shit, really. Only game to do it right was King's Bounty, where all that wives did was give stat bonuses). I mean sure, Bethesda MIGHT choose to adhere to some of the latest gimmicks, but expect the words, "poorly implemented" to be put in front of every feature here. Not that any of you would be able to tell the difference.
Some of the Skyrim DLC files have strings for companions which might show they are gonna upgrade their followers.

Bethesda does learn from their past mistakes.... they just end up breaking something else.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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I am dying for this game. I love the Fallout universe. A game set in the snowy states of America could be cool (lol) and easy to do with the Skyrim engine.

I would love Obsidian to make it though, bugs can be fixed, the story, not so much :p
 

xshadowscreamx

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my heart raised when i saw fallout 4 on this forum..i knew it would be a dream dicussion. not actual facts. but i dont care..what i do now is that i will always pre order for day 1...i just love those games.