Fallout New Vegas: Why all the hate?

[Wolfram23]

What hate? I've rarely if ever seen someone throw hate at it. At worst people say it's a copy and paste, or a worse version, of FO3. Which is still pretty good...

Anyway I quite liked it. I also didn't experience a lot of bugs (PC version).

 

[Nerdstar]

i personal loved fallout:new Vegas and thought it was a great game (bugs not withstanding) but i also loved fo3 as well, there both great games on par with the originals despite what others might say(played 1,2, and tactics WAAAAAYY back in the day)but there very different games in some respects and both do certain things better than the other and worse. they both have good continuity with nods to the originals (like when in Vegas i found the wearck of the highwaymen,that made me smile)the companion system was done better in new Vegas(the wheel, and generally there backstroys and how the endings affected them, with the possible exception of dog meat and Fawkes)however fo3 was easier to travel (and I'm not talking about the wandering deathclaws or cazadoras that will rape you if you at a low level and or unprepared i was sort of OK with that it kept me on my toes and made hunting them fun, i remember doing the quarry mission and had mines laid out everywhere and sniping them with a varmint rifle form the ridge and than lobing grenades at them from the ridge as they ran over my mines and the when the survivors got close i pulled out my shotgun and got stuck in with some good old fashioned CQC,that was fun but most of the time i died a horrible painful death)i mean where fo3 was mostly flat and easy to traverse fonv had more hills and mountains than I'm really comfortable with especially when it looks like you can climb it but when toy get high enough you stop moving or moved like molasses but eventually got over it or just moved like molasses but never got over the hill as it dangled an illusion of mobility in front of you(cant tell you how many times i thought i could get to a place doing this only to find i cant and then spend forever going around trying to find a way to get it)

and to answer why there are no trees in the capital wasteland(aside from the oasis) D.C was probably hit harder than most places(if not the hardest) where as new vegas got off relatively light with only a few bombs which allowed the mountains and the general shrubbery to survive add to that possible FEV contamination

 

[rosac]

I love new vegas. Why? because punching giant lizards to death never gets old.

and... modable weapons

and... true iron sights

and... a cooler story start.

however, the lack of 3 dog is disapointing.

 

[Tentickles]

I loved both games equally. They both had their pros and cons but in the end were fantastic games to play through. For being games of today they did a pretty good job of paying homage to the originals.

I enjoyed the fact they didnt skips out on the deep and immoral storylines. As in the Novac quest in FNV or the Slavers quest in F3. There's some pretty deep commentary there on life in the wasteland.

 

[sofareal]

I love both games, but I'd think I'd prefer Fo3 slightly over FNV, only for the increased immersion, there was something personally gripping about starting my game and knowing that the character that I will be playing (for the next 100+ hours) as is (digitally) being born. Now only if the lone wanderer landed in the west coast, then we can get the best of both worlds (they had a vertibird in the end of FO3,well broken steel, in theory could happen)

 

[Ace of Spades]

I honestly don't know. I thought New Vegas was better than Fallout 3. I admit NV was less immersive, but it was also much better paced, and had a better variety of guns and other implements of murder. In 3, once I got A3-21's plasma rifle, I never used anything else, and literally every encounter was just, press v, click on the head a few times and watch the resulting fountain of gore.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

3 was a good game, but a bad Fallout game.

This sums it up pretty well.

F3 is my favourite game of all time and I prefer it to New Vegas by quite a margin, but even I can see that New Vegas is a far better sequel to the originals and more closer in tone to them.

 

[Eomega123]

I think New Vegas was really fun...but those DAMN GLITCHES! I can barely bring myself to play the game thanks to the glitches and extreme loading times.

 

[Greatjusticeman]

New Vegas was miles better than Fallout 3.

Those only reason it's panned is because of all the bugs that came with it. Had Obsidian made a non-buggy game, their reputation would've improved.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

I loved New Vegas in a lot of ways. The story, the setting and the characters simply worked and fit better in the Fallout mold than fallout 3 did by a long stretch. But the game also did it's best to make me hate it. From regular crashes to desktop (averaging around one per hour though the problem is most commonly linked to cell transition so this could be stretched if I spent a lot of time in one place. Traversing Vegas itself was like playing Russian Roulette in this regard all while pushing my luck), to glitches that forced me to load a save made hours prior in order to progress the game was just a technical mess. It is, quite literally, the buggiest game I have ever bothered playing to completion. Which is a shame because it really is an incredible experience.

 

[John the Gamer]

I like it, but I would have prefered Fallout 3 with the new features of New Vegas(Iron Sights etc)

I still play it a lot, but my frequent crasher card is getting full, so I'll have to go cash in on my points and catch a flight to tahiti or som... I might have gotten that wrong......

And btw. There's a mod that allows you to connect the two games; (...)

I just spend half an hour searching but now I'm bored. It's somewhere here: http://www.newvegasnexus.com/

And allows you to travel from the mojave to the capital wasteland and back.

EDIT: Oh, wait, here it is; http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=41480

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

I'm asking because recently I was on a website and every other comment after "When does Old World Blues come out?" was "FNV sucks!" or "F3 was so much better!" which got me wondering, why? It is, when u get down to it, a F3 expansion pack. Same engine, same character creator, even some of the same enemies. Personally, I love both games and will enjoy playing them until they get off their asses about Fallout Online. So, my fellow Escapist, can anyone tell me why FNV gathered some much ire from people?

I don't understand the hate either, camrulez. I loved New Vegas, and I was apparently one of only a handful of people who encounted no bugs whatsoever.

Personally, I thought Fallout 3 was the weakest of the main-series games. That's not to say I thought it was bad... weakest of the main series still places it well above-average for games-in-general, in my personal opinion. It just didn't have any characters I felt particularly attached to (except Harold, and even then, a very minor character in the game), I didn't feel any sense of urgency whatsoever from the game's main plot (wandered around visiting every single location before bothering with the story... zero consequence despite all the times they imply that time is of the essence), the original ending was downright stupid (especially considering I had a Super Mutant as a companion), they took a ton of liberties with the Brotherhood of Steel... I dunno. The game was fun, but there was enough stuff that, to me, detracted from the experience to make it not feel quite as Fallout-y as the rest of the main series.

To each their own, I guess.

I'm eagerly awaiting Old World Blues too. It wasn't this Tuesday, so hopefully next Tuesday. /sigh.

 

[RA92]

New Vegas got both the setting and aesthetics of the Fallout franchise way better than Fallout 3. NV's player-driven narrative was light years ahead of FO3's.

 

[Brandon237]

Fallout NV was AWESOME!
It had so much more in weapons, mods, choices, plot-lines than Fallout: 3. I think that 3 had a nicer wasteland, but that is it, for the rest New Vegas for the win. It was a good game with so many options that kept me playing for many many hours.

 

[Captain Underbeard]

Because it was awfully buggy, and still is. No game should crash that much.

Which is a pity, because I really, really enjoyed FNV until I got to New Vegas and the game crashed every half hour :-(

 

[GiantRaven]

However, aesthetically, Fallout 3 had more going for it.

Yeah, that shapeless dark green mess of a wasteland was so much more aesthetically pleasing than the nice bright (and varied) colours of the Mojave. New Vegas has so much more than Fallout 3 aesthetically, simply because it does a wider variety of visuals and scenes.

 

[Laser Priest]

People say that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric.

Also, people on the internet have the ability to be total idiots who take the slightest opinion to the extreme.

Personally, I agree that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric in some ways (primarily, it felt like more of a wasteland), but New Vegas was more atmospheric in others (Felt more lively and wasn't entirely in shades of green) and generally better in every way.

 

[Canid117]

People say that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric.

Also, people on the internet have the ability to be total idiots who take the slightest opinion to the extreme.

Personally, I agree that Fallout 3 was more atmospheric in some ways, but New Vegas was more atmospheric in others and generally better in every way.

Also it was less grey. The color scheme got a little old after a while.

 

[Outright Villainy]

I thought New Vegas was the far superior game. Not in terms of craft; Fallout 3 had more visually interesting exploration and was less buggy. But in every other regard- every other regard, New Vegas was far superior. Stat building, story, dialogue, voice acting, quests...

Everything.