Fallout: The Old Days

[Dexs]

I played and beat Fallout 3 within a couple hours, but the entire time I'm playing this game my brain is saying to me, "What the hell happened with this game?" I mean I grew up with Fallout and Fallout 2. I remember playing that game as a little kid waiting for some hint as to where I could find a blasted waterchip or where that secret brotherhood outpost was in Fallout 2. I loved Frank Horrigan and the way he dies in the end of Fallout 2, but when it all comes down to it.. Fallout 3 completely ruined it all for me. Throughout the entire game series you have an amazing RTS. Then suddenly there is word of a new game after years of silence and that game completely turns into the opposite of what the series was. When I played Falout 3 I felt like I was playing a futuristic version of Oblivian instead of Fallout. Sometimes I wish I could go to the idiots at Bethesda and beat the living crap out of them for ruining my favorite game.

Now here comes why I started this: Another part to the series is coming out in the fall. Fallout: New Vegas and yet again I am disappointed by their continued look of Bethesda's famed Oblivian.

So my question is what your opinion of the entire Fallout series and the new Fallout: New Vegas?

 

[Henrik Persson]

Exactly how did they ruin the first two games? How on earth could they possibly achieve that? All you have to do is ignore that Fallout 3 is a Fallout game and you're good.

My opinion is that Fallout 1 & 2 are way better than 3 because I find storytelling and humor that important. Fallout: New Vegas has the potential to be great, if they manage to mix Bethesdas gameplay and atmosphere with Obsidians storytelling and humor. Obsidian are no Black Isle Studios, but the atmosphere Bethesda created in Fallout 3 (until someone spoke or you read anything) was fantastic. Then again, if they mix Obsidians coding with Bethesdas storytelling you'll have a total trainwreck on your hands.

 

[Thatrandomguy]

Fallout: Tactics was a RTS, fallout 1&2 were turn-based RPG. the only real time was non-combat moving. As for fallout 3, Bethesda has no imagination. every single game they make will play like oblivion, im sad to say. With the fallout series... it makes me just want to cry. lockpicking is SO not as easy as twiddiling your thumb with a hairpin......

 

[MiracleOfSound]

Fallout 3: Fantastic game, bad sequel.

Here's a thread about it:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.182737-The-Fallout-Debate#5434692

 

[Dexs]

Is it really an RTS? Wouldn't it be more of a turn-based RPG with companions?

I enjoyed Fallout 3, I found the best way to enjoy it was just to say fuck the main plot and just go out exploring. There was always something new to see, and it really gave you the feeling of a burned out wasteland.

The first Fallout I didn't actually care for that much, I know the timer was realistic but seriously it drove me mad, I could never get it finished, there was always too much stuff I wanted to do. Second one was excellent though, especially when you made sure your character had really low intelligence, that made the dialogue hilarious.

I'm looking forward to New Vegas, it'll be nice to see what they can do with it, but has anyone else noticed that Fallout trailers have gotten really predictable? I mean, start out with old 50s music, focusing on a piece of 50s technology like a vacuum tube or black and white television, then slowly zoom out to see the world destroyed as the music fades away and a lone figure is seen. Then, cue blackout and a Ron Perlman "War, war never changes." End of trailer. Seriously, more originality is needed.

When they first released Fallout it was RTS and turn-based.

I like the first fallout because once you actually found the waterchip you were free to explore and do as you pleased. You just had to have some pretty good skills when it came to talking to people and asking the right questions. Or just randomly stumble upon some ghouls.

 

[Hallow'sEve]

You people need to stop bitching about a game that was released 13 years ago, seriously, no one cares anymore. Grow up.

 

[Funkysandwich]

Is it really an RTS? Wouldn't it be more of a turn-based RPG with companions?

I enjoyed Fallout 3, I found the best way to enjoy it was just to say fuck the main plot and just go out exploring. There was always something new to see, and it really gave you the feeling of a burned out wasteland.

The first Fallout I didn't actually care for that much, I know the timer was realistic but seriously it drove me mad, I could never get it finished, there was always too much stuff I wanted to do. Second one was excellent though, especially when you made sure your character had really low intelligence, that made the dialogue hilarious.

I'm looking forward to New Vegas, it'll be nice to see what they can do with it, but has anyone else noticed that Fallout trailers have gotten really predictable? I mean, start out with old 50s music, focusing on a piece of 50s technology like a vacuum tube or black and white television, then slowly zoom out to see the world destroyed as the music fades away and a lone figure is seen. Then, cue blackout and a Ron Perlman "War, war never changes." End of trailer. Seriously, more originality is needed.

That was the only part of fallout 3 that felt fallout-y.

If they got rid of that, it wouldn't be fallout, it'd be STALKER in America.

 

[Smallells]

Admittedly, I played the first two fallouts after Fallout 3. But I think that it's un-realistic to believe that a similiar style of game would sell well.

I'm not saying Fallout 3 is especially good or bad, but I agree with the others in that it is Fallout simply by name - and the same backstory. I can understand your frustration but perhaps just ignore the fact it is a Fallout game.

Farcry 2 was similiar in the opposite way. It's mechanics were a lot like the original but the background nothing at all similiar.

 

[Dexs]

You people need to stop bitching about a game that was released 13 years ago, seriously, no one cares anymore. Grow up.

Hallow I start this topic to discuss the comparison between the old Fallout games, Fallout 3 and the new Fallout: New Vegas game. I didn't start to have a pity party.

 

[Fister Roboto]

Fallout 3 was great, I put 100+ hours into that game.

I grew up on the original Fallout games. I tried to go back to playing them and I can't be bothered with them. They were fun 10+ years ago, but now they're relics.

Can't wait for New Vegas.

 

[Lazarus Long]

This kind of smells like the "Truth Media" reviews SA used to do as flamebait. There was nothing wrong with Fallout 3, and it certainly doesn't uninstall 1 and 2. Frankly, I would have been disappointed if they had made it exactly the same, like a note-for-note cover song, or Gus van Sant's Psycho remake.
I also don't think it was exactly like Oblivion any more than Duke Nukum 3D was exactly like Doom. Did people complain about this back in the Infinity Engine days?

 

[Hallow'sEve]

You people need to stop bitching about a game that was released 13 years ago, seriously, no one cares anymore. Grow up.

Hallow I start this topic to discuss the comparison between the old Fallout games, Fallout 3 and the new Fallout: New Vegas game. I didn't start to have a pity party.

Well we've got a thousand of those already, go rezz one instead of adding to the collective mess.

Also, while you may have good intentions, this IS a pity party, cause all I've read so far is "waaaahhh"

 

[Milney]

When they first released Fallout it was RTS and turn-based.

I like the first fallout because once you actually found the waterchip you were free to explore and do as you pleased. You just had to have some pretty good skills when it came to talking to people and asking the right questions. Or just randomly stumble upon some ghouls.

Do you even know what an RTS is?

No, it wasn't. it was an RPG.

Also, there was a time-limit aswell, even after the waterchip.

Other then that, FO1 and 2 were better games.

 

[Chipperz]

Fallout 1 and 2 were awful, and no ammount of nostalgia will save them. There. I said it. The interface is atrocious, the combat is... Interesting at best... And the whole idea of turn based hex movement should be left with cheap tabletop games where it belongs.

Fallout 3 gave gamers the minor luxury of being a playable game.

 

[Dexs]

When they first released Fallout it was RTS and turn-based.

I like the first fallout because once you actually found the waterchip you were free to explore and do as you pleased. You just had to have some pretty good skills when it came to talking to people and asking the right questions. Or just randomly stumble upon some ghouls.

Do you even know what an RTS is?

No, it wasn't. it was an RPG.

Also, there was a time-limit aswell, even after the waterchip.

Other then that, FO1 and 2 were better games.

When I said throughout the entire series you have an amazing RTS I'm making a reference towards Tactics.

 

[El Dingo]

It's not Fallout unless I can punch a giant rat in the groin, damn it!

I really miss the style and substance of FO1 & 2. FO3 is a good game based on it's own merits, but I agree, it really cuts out the stuff that made the originals so great to begin with. The way I see it though, is they just replaced one great game with another great game. Still, if it were up to me, I'd like to see another FO game come out that went off of the old style of FO.