Fanboys and PC Elitism

[Retronana]

As a PC gamer I'm glad 360 is getting minecraft, it'll mean people stop playing that shitty rip-off fortress craft. As for how bethesda are describing Skyrim saying they're focussing on consoles and "making it accessible" worries me as that in general means dumbed down for the lowest common denominator and isolating a dedicated audience who want the series to evolve, not step back.

I still play my consoles time to time but I love my PC too much ^_^

I suppose the trade off between console-tards and PC elitists is console-tards are thicker, PC elitists are pretentious wankers.

 

[The Lunatic]

I'm rather curious how it's going to work given XBL seems to only allow companies to update their game once for free.

See the Xbox version of TF2 for more info.

 

[similar.squirrel]

It's the Internet. I've witnessed flamewars over the merits of certain fast-food outlets. Ignore these knobjockeys, because they won't achieve anything anyway.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

PC Elitists are just Console fanboys, but with 90% less profanity, 200% more arrogance, and 50% more whining, with just a pinch of butthurt. Same mentality, just a lot whinier about how they say it.

Serious answer: Yada Yada, vocal minority, yada yada Yay everyone gets Minecraft now, all that stuff said before.

haha thats funny and actually a nice way of putting it.


OT: while i'd hope i'm not part of that demograph, as i've always despised people who act that way, they are just a bunch of asshats who shouldn't be paid attention to

 

[Shadow-Phoenix]

Anyone looked at the comments on the Minecraft forums lately regarding the Xbox port? If you haven't, they go a little something like this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/90-minecraft-coming-to-xbox-kinect-this-winter/

I don't understand what the problem is, personally. Everyone deserves to play Minecraft and some people seriously have computers which can't play it at a decent framerate. This is the exact reason why fanboys and PC elitists annoy me: "The consoles plebs will ruin it!"

So, for discussion's sake, what's your take on this news? What's your attitude to PC elitists and why do the act that way?

Don't worry about that as much because Sony doesn't exactly have the game on their console so we will end up with both 360 and PC being eletist for having the game.

 

[Amondren]

Honestly I love my PC and I love my Xbox and PS3. I admit that I like my PC more then both of them but I'm by no means exclusively PC. I'm not going to get it because 1 I already own it and 2 My hand would get tired from punching the air. People want it for 360 kinnect let them it doesn't impact you I don't get why those fan-boys are whining about it.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Majority of my time is spent on my PC gaming. And I have to say, the hardware is way better. And that's about all. 90% of games are available on multiple platforms. "Crysis" is an exception. Not the rule.

 

[Hound174]

I'm pretty sure it's because Pc rarely gets exclusives anymore. We used to be the grand base for indie games, where people had a chance to play something different, and it could only be found on pc. But with consoles eating up that market too, it's leaving pc players frustrated with the fact that we're being put as second best.
Basically, like this "Well it's popular on pc now, so let's put it on console now that it's worthy".

Not that I'm saying this is what actually happens, but when you're angry at everything being ruined by ports, your mind tends to think like this.
And no one can ***** about how all games should be shared, and it's selfish to hold onto a game for one specific platform. We all love our exclusives, it what helps define who we are, I used to be a proud playstation gamer over xbox, because of the excellant exclusives it offered me for being a part of their service. It was build specifically for the playstation. now there's more xbox exclusives, and it's not because of power or reason, it's only because microsoft pays them to make them as exclusives for them.

Fucking microsoft. Well the xbox department anyway.

 

[AlternatePFG]

After reading pages of that crap, apparently their main complaint was "The 360 users will ruin their community".

Which made me laugh, because Minecraft had an awful community to begin with.

 

[DustyDrB]

God, that forum is painful to read. Everyone is screwing up with the quoting. I saw one guy get it right.

OP: Gamers kind of suck as people, by and large. I'm not even a cynic who says that people suck in general. In general, I find most people to be decent. But gamers just...kind of suck regardless of their platform of choice.

 

[RA92]

So, for discussion's sake, what's your take on this news? What's your attitude to PC elitists and why do the act that way?

You wanna bring in outside communities? Well, I guess I can do that as well.

http://www.destructoid.com/the-psn-facebook-page-your-new-source-of-facepalm-200121.phtml

FYI, idiots are of a very diverse community.

 

[lumenadducere]

Does it make me an "elitist" if say I too think this is a bad idea. I'm not against Minecraft on the Xbox. I'm just against Mojang undertaking this unquestionably huge project NOW and snuffing out ALL hopes of Minecraft ever being properly "released". I don't know if that matters to people, but it peeves me. Minecraft (for the PC) DESERVES to be launched. It shouldn't be a buggy Beta for it's entire lifetime. It DESERVES better.

Because the 11/11/11 release date doesn't mean anything now? When did that happen?

And Mojang has said that they'd still be doing content updates post-"release" so that date is an arbitrary thing anyways. It's not like anything is really going to change, except maybe we'll have a final version somewhere down the line so every time there's an update we don't have to re-download all our mods and texture packs. But even so that won't be for a while after its official release, given their pledge to continue updating.

 

[Couch Radish]

Good news, but why only Xbox? PS3 players need some love too, they shouldn't be left out.

It's very easy to port from PC to 360. I mean, really easy.

 

[RA92]

Does it make me an "elitist" if say I too think this is a bad idea. I'm not against Minecraft on the Xbox. I'm just against Mojang undertaking this unquestionably huge project NOW and snuffing out ALL hopes of Minecraft ever being properly "released". I don't know if that matters to people, but it peeves me. Minecraft (for the PC) DESERVES to be launched. It shouldn't be a buggy Beta for it's entire lifetime. It DESERVES better.

Because the 11/11/11 release date doesn't mean anything now? When did that happen?

And Mojang has said that they'd still be doing content updates post-"release" so that date is an arbitrary thing anyways. It's not like anything is really going to change, except maybe we'll have a final version somewhere down the line so every time there's an update we don't have to re-download all our mods and texture packs. But even so that won't be for a while after its official release, given their pledge to continue updating.

Not to mention they've got a separate dev team for the X-Box version. So I can safely assume the original team's work on the PC is going to go unimpeded.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/minecraft-on-360-wont-be-a-straight-port-not-developed-by-mo/

It's not ported by them, it's third party.
That said, MineCraft is a prime example of Indie and PC development e.g. do whatever the hell you want and getting financed while still in Alpha, try out new ideas, iterate and reiterate etc.
Microsoft doesn't even allow free major Updates on their console, nor could a game like MineCraft have thrived on there, they kind of shove all "Indies" in a corner and tell them to stay behind the line and mind their effing business. It's not a very friendly environment for indie developers...
I guess that might be why they are pissed, now that it's "cool" and apparently "profitable" it's going to the consoles I guess.

Ahh Thanks! I don't know how to take all of that, tbh. I guess there's so little information out, there's very little point in saying anything. But I WILL say that, even if I HAD an Xbox, I wouldn't give two shits about the Xbox version.

 

[CodeOrange]

some people seriously have computers which can't play [minecraft]at a decent framerate. This is the exact reason why fanboys and PC elitists annoy me: "The consoles plebs will ruin it!"

Wait, what? Computers are that bad? It's Java, not Crysis 2.
I thought Minecraft was non-competitive and already had a basic, intuitive control scheme, so what's the issue here with consolisation?
Yeah, but doesn't Minecraft suck?

I don't understand all this Escapist hate toward PC players.

Yahtzee prefers console gaming over PC gaming. And since absolutely everyone on the internet who isn't in the minority is as modest as Bono, they're free to coincide their opinions with their idols due to their Hero-worship Syndrome.

 

[CarlMin]

USE THE GODDAMN SEARCH BAR.

Anyway, I see this as a minority of entitled and spoiled asshats. Just ignore them and leave them to rage in peace.

It's not our fault that we care enough about games to pay for a decent and, by all technical measures, a superior console = the PC. ^^

And the "stop whining about consoles ruining the market" argument would be more logical if it wasn't that consoles actually were ruining the market.

 

[Yopaz]

They need a good kick in the mouth, if you ask me.

Good news, but why only Xbox? PS3 players need some love too, they shouldn't be left out.

Because the PS3 is harder to program for than Xbox and there isn't a big company making it.

I can side with PC elitists with their claim that a decent PC is better than the current gen consoles. It's a bad thing that games are being made to work with 5 year old hardware since that limits the graphics we see on PC. However if a game is made for PC then they port it to console I must ask. What the fuck is the problem? The game's made and optimized for the superior system, now it's being downgraded to spread the joy. Is that a bad thing?
Still console fanboys are just as bad. Final Fantasy for Xbox was a huge betrayal because every Final Fantasy game has been a Sony exclusive, this is if we don't count the 6 good ones made for NES and SNES and the countless remakes and spin-offs. Console fanboys don't want anyone who doesn't have their console to enjoy things. They badmouth noobs and those who got different consoles just as much. Also how many "discussions" haven't we seen on "What is the best console?"

The same thing goes for console gamers vs PC gamers. Console gamers who see another console gamer who is a douche will think he's a douche. A PC gamer who sees a PC console gamer who is a douche will say all console gamers are douches.
The world, and especially the internet, and even more accurately tech or game forums, will be filled with jerks. Jerks are those who shout the loudest and the ones you will notice. Learn to live with it and ignore it.