And because the Deep Ones and Dagon are far more recognizable and memorable then indescribable blobs of tenticles and mass.CaitSeith said:
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Nyarlathotep better examines perhaps a Great War era sense that the world was going to be cleansed by conflict that Lovecraft lived through and likely inspired much of his ideas of cosmological horrors beyond the mind to process their inhuman dimensions and raw chaos.Samtemdo8 said:
It's also a shorter read. Also sans tentacles and the like.
Though the Dream Cycle has more than enough contemplations of the nakedly monstrous. As does At the Mountains of Madness.
Nyarlathotep is rather ... it feels like a weird-science revelation event that is simply one of many at the end of the world no one truly wishes to contemplate just over the horizon, and thus because they do not strive to internalize its dimensions similarly fall prey to it. Perhaps more mercifully, perhaps not.
They did adapt Nyarlathotep for the silver screen.
I am well aware of Nyarlarthotep thank you and honestly I find him the most mary sue of all the gods, and that's saying something since that's there are plenty of compitition, but the fact that he does it because he actual actually care about humans in the sense of wanting to fuck with them for the lulz. I feel it takes away from Cosmic Horror.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Mary sue? How can a Lovecraftian god be a Mary Sue?Samtemdo8 said:
For starters, Nyarlathotep is a short story about said 'man of the Pharaohs' ... and in the short story the narrator himself angers Nyarlathotep leading to the story's final revelation at the end of the world.
This guy explains the larger story of him and stuff written not from Lovecraft himself:Addendum_Forthcoming said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYEBQJoz1_c
Do you take all your opinions from youtube without actually reading their sources? Seriously, he is anything but a Mary Sue. If anything the narrator in Nyarlathotep is the only 'Mary Sue' because he was amongst the few to handwave Nyarlathotep and piss him off.Samtemdo8 said:
Well Nyarlarthotep is certainly something if Mary Sue is not the right word. There is something about the description of him that does not sit right with me.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Lets just say I prefer Azathoth over Nyarlarthotep in terms of scaryness and yet intriguing lore.
It is literally just 3-4 pages of 10 font worth of story. You can read it in 4 minutes. Do this, get back to me.Samtemdo8 said:
Is it on Creepypasta wikia? Because that website has both Call of Cthulhu and Shadow over Insmouth in thier entirety?Addendum_Forthcoming said:
http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Call_of_Cthulhu
http://creepypasta.wikia.com/wiki/The_Shadow_Over_Innsmouth
For starters Nyarlathotep (1920) can be found here...Samtemdo8 said:
http://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/n.aspx
Believe it or not, not the shortest of his stories.
"I remember when Nyarlathotep came to my city?the great, the old, the terrible city of unnumbered crimes."Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Now I know where exactly you got that one from Warcraft:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ny%27alotha
"Ny'alotha is a city of old, terrible, unnumbered crimes..."
Upon thinking about it, I think the ACTUAL reason 'A Shadow Over Insmouth' is the most talked about of Lovecraft's works is because it's the easiest to turn into a more typical story.
What I mean by that is, look at Dark Corners of the Earth and how it focuses on Insmouth. It is the only story of Lovecraft's that I can think of that, when turned into a video-game, is not part of the 'walking-simulator' genre. Because it's the only one that has any real action moments about it and the enemy is so easy to turn into killable things unlike a Shoggoth or Mi-Go would be.
As to Nyarlathotep being a Mary-Su.... Uh.... no? Whatever writers are doing with Nya is just usual fandom stuff, in the stories he's just one of many mentioned dark beings outside of the Dream Cycle where he has more of an antagonist role at point in the story. People just like to make Nya a big deal because, again, they are one of the most easily understood and digestible of Lovecraft's creations.
What I mean by that is, look at Dark Corners of the Earth and how it focuses on Insmouth. It is the only story of Lovecraft's that I can think of that, when turned into a video-game, is not part of the 'walking-simulator' genre. Because it's the only one that has any real action moments about it and the enemy is so easy to turn into killable things unlike a Shoggoth or Mi-Go would be.
As to Nyarlathotep being a Mary-Su.... Uh.... no? Whatever writers are doing with Nya is just usual fandom stuff, in the stories he's just one of many mentioned dark beings outside of the Dream Cycle where he has more of an antagonist role at point in the story. People just like to make Nya a big deal because, again, they are one of the most easily understood and digestible of Lovecraft's creations.
I feel it CAN be explained very well with things that she's experienced (I'm just saying my feelings here) but the movie has so much ground to cover that it can't give her more time. I thought it was a little weak but did still feel it wasn't completely out of left field.Hawki said:
Yep. Genuinely baffled why they decided "This character loves a muggle, so lets have her side with the guy who wants to obliterate most muggles and leave the ones that remains as beasts of burden" was anything but nonsenseNatemans said:
Is JK Rowling perhaps incapable of making her creations have continuous in-universe logic? Like, wasn't she literally making it up as a bed-time story for her kids? Maybe logical consistency is something that just isn't a feature of the Potterverse.
Well that went out the window after the Death Eaters started attacking Muggle London. Mainly a movie thing, because the movies are all very much a post 9/11 world where the novels were less obviously so. So after that happened it stretched credulity that Voldemort and co. didn't find themselves knee-deep in shell casing and suffering terminal cases of lead poisoning by the end of the week.Kwak said:
The novels take place mainly in the period of 1990 to '98. Far as I'm aware, the movies do as well.Gordon_4 said:
But even if that's the case, if the movies have shown us anything, it's that wizards are pretty much on god mode compared to Muggles, given how easy it is to apparate and use charms/curses. Wizards/witches seem to be a bit toned down in the books, but even then, if Voldemort was really given free reign, chances are he could bring the United Kingdom to its knees pretty easily. After all, he has dementors, and Muggles can't defend themselves against them. They can't even see them.
This is a continuation of our Lord of the Rings discussion since I can't PM you.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
But you see this, this is exactly why I dread the upcoming Amazon LOTR show, because I worry the creators (who were writers for Star Trek Beyond) will take this news and the controversy that came out of it to heart in the development of their show:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6428971/Science-Fiction-writer-claims-Lord-Rings-series-racist.html