FarCry 5 is getting fairly postive reviews

[B-Cell_v1legacy]

Of course it's getting positive reviews. It's as safe as a shooter can be. I'm not interested. I want better movement, better gunplay and more interesting progression in my shooters.

The Metro Exodus will be best FPS this year and that could be one of the best of all time.

I played the first for about an hour. It stunk. Way too scripted, with the typical Call of Duty 4 gameplay of waiting for the NPC to catch up and open the door for you. The action was boring.

Exodus is more open ended. more like Stalker

otherwise first 2 Metro games are some of the best linear story driven FPS i have ever played. almost as good as Half life imo. they have innovative gasmask feature that distinct from COD. you just played for one hour. play it more. they are fairly long and varied games.

 

[BreakfastMan]

Game looks alright, but not super into it. Might pick it up on a deep discount. Was listening to the Giant Bombcast earlier, and they were talking about how it is basically just 4 again but with a different coating, and that the game doesn't really do anything with the setting/story/characters (which is a shame, as the idea of fighting what are essentially a combination of the Bundy family and Branch Davidians had potential).

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

Is it safe for you guys to spoil the story now because I wanna know what's at stake or if the villain is even equal to that of Vaas?

Part of the reason I haven?t even wanted to play FC3. He?s a talking cliche. No, I don?t want you to tell me what the definition of insanity is because A. You sound insanely annoying as it is and B. I?ve heard it a thousand bloody times already.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Of course it's getting positive reviews. It's as safe as a shooter can be. I'm not interested. I want better movement, better gunplay and more interesting progression in my shooters.

Soo...Warframe, I guess?

 

[Neurotic Void Melody]

Will eventually get this. Once have managed to afford living properly and am not in anti-money. And all the dlc's out. Hopefully there's still the variety of colourful characters to meet and befriend along the way

 

[Samtemdo8_v1legacy]

it doesn't take a genious to read what the guy is saying, nor the things he meant but sanitised/didn't put into words

"Irrelevant to what the review said here's what I'm saying he's saying solely so I can get mad at it" isn't the strongest argument. I get that it's from polygon and polygon is the anti gamer devil but you gotta watch your heart man, this isn't healthy.

The review is right. The story is toothless and tonally incoherant. Attemtping to portray the Seeds as real life villains one moment, only to backtrack and make them cartoon villains with super powers the next. They couldn't even have it be a realistic cult, because the far majority of the members you fight are brainwashed and mind controlled. Not by real life methods mind you, but by magic flowers and music boxes.

Nothing in that review is wrong. The story is weak and deserves criticism. You just don't like it's source. I'm sure you'll read some reddit review that regurgitates the same points a week from now and will agree with it. ?\_(&#12484_/?

The author clearly appears to have wanted Far Cry to get serious and deep all of the sudden because hey, we?re in America now so you better make a pro-lefty ?suitable? political statement when given the chance. What?s sad is the developers made a point of saying they actually visited and spoke with several Montana residents to get a feel for what they?re ?really like? before putting them in the game. Because again, yes I?m sure wacko troped up neocon-ish cults and halfwits represent a soundly rational sampling of the state?s inhabitants. They also stated the game wasn?t about slinging mud at Trump or his supporters, but it sounds like that still found its way in there as well, unsurprisingly.

But that?s all beside the point, as I?m really not surprised at the lack of integrity of Ubisoft as a publisher or developer anymore, regardless of politics. The point was this piece wasn?t a ?game review? in the slightest. If it was really an honest attempt at a review he might have been bothered to talk about-what is it we?re after here...oh yes gameplay given that it?s, well, a game. Instead he rambles on and on about the failed attempt to turn the game into a modern political statement. It was agenda-fishing hack journalism at best.

 

[EternallyBored]

Is it safe for you guys to spoil the story now because I wanna know what's at stake or if the villain is even equal to that of Vaas?

In my opinion? Not even close, they try to do 4 crazy Vaas like characters but none of them get enough characterization or play off each other very well, they are all just isolated in their region and maybe have 1 conversation with the Father before you inevitably kill them.

The game also kind of pussies out of giving the cult any real weight because it all comes down to drugs and other spoiler things, rather than brainwashing it treads too far into outright magical mind control in a way that makes me think Ubisoft doesn?t know how drugs, brainwashing, or cults work. The cult also captures you way too much and too easily instead of a story mission where you get captured you?ll just be wandering around and get a message that the cult is after you and you?ll get swarmed by an infinite number of enemies with magical drug bullets that knock you out with one shot. That type of thing happens multiple times per region, to the point that it makes you question why the cult is letting you destroy their stuff when they can apparently instantly track you down and hit you with magic knock out bullets or psychic hallucination drugs any time they want.

As for stakes, it?s all contained within the county, we don?t really get anything about the outside world until the end:

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where the cult seems to win either way, of the two main endings you either end up trying to escape the county with the other resistance characters and someone turns on the radio that?s playing the magic cult mind control music, so it ends looking like you get mind controlled as your trying to escape. The other ending involves a nuke going off as the cult leader is defeated, so either the cult was right about the end of the world, or the leader had a nuke hidden away and the place you have been trying to save gets destroyed.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Of course it's getting positive reviews. It's as safe as a shooter can be. I'm not interested. I want better movement, better gunplay and more interesting progression in my shooters.

Soo...Warframe, I guess?

RPG shit isn't what I meant by progression. Progression could be the way you explore, the linearity and the new enemies that appear. Ubisoft's open world mission formula, stats and upgrade trees aren't that appealing to me.

I was thinking more the fact that Warframe has ridiculously mobile movement than I was thinking about progression, but fair enough.

 

[CaitSeith]

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"Ubisoft wanted the evocative art of these religious references for the marketing of Far Cry 5; but the game itself does nothing with them."

It sounds like another case of unmet expectations.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

I read the Polygon review. I took away that his main complaint was that the game has all these current, hot topic social and political themes and tosses them by the wayside in order to be goofy and not actually step on anyone's toes

Which is a shame, because plenty of people in comment sections everywhere are screaming bloody murder about their toes. "Ermagerd, more libtards ruining a good game by forcing politics into games!" Ermagerd, they took potshots at trump over the wall by making a joke about a wall on Canada!" "Ermagerd I'm not buying this because all it does it mock conservatives and I'm not ok with that!" "Ermagerd this is an attack on christianity by equating it with a cult!" etc etc etc.

Soo...I think it's safe to say that any attempt to sidestep actual political discourse for fear of offending anyone failed spectacularly.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Pretty much. The problem with Far Cry 5 is that it chickens out when it comes to indicting the cult properly despite it trying to delve deeper into the sociopolitical issues going on. It's the same problem Assassin's Creed ran into in that it's trying to do this "both sides, moral complexity" bs, but just ends up looking milquetoast, spineless, directionless, and lightweight as a result. Contrast this with Wolfenstein II wherein it went full-in with the "fuck white supremacy" angle and came off better as a result.

 

[Gethsemani_v1legacy]

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"Ubisoft wanted the evocative art of these religious references for the marketing of Far Cry 5; but the game itself does nothing with them."

It sounds like another case of unmet expectations.

Yeah and I totally get that facet of the criticism. Far Cry 5's main story and its' sloppy execution is my main complaint with the game so far. What I don't get is the more general tone that suggests that the game is somehow failing for not delivering introspection on current US politics.

 

[Chewster]

I'm thinking about this one. It looks fun enough, and who doesn't like killing cultists? The Inquisitor in me approves. Not a huge fan of season passes, even if some of the DLC campaigns look fun, and super not a big fan of the apparent grind. Enemies drop like $5-8 of in-game currency, and a new gun is like $7000+ to get, unless you spring for microtransactions.

Still, if its on sale in a few months, and they patch in a better economy, I'll probably get this one.

See, even if this is implemented well, the fact that there is even the option to pay real money just to unlock content that is already in the game and paid for just rubs me hard the wrong way. Give us a challenge to unlock new content, sure, that's what games are about but why the fuck do you need more of our bread, you selfish fucks? We know the AAA industry sucks the bag already, it's only a matter of time before they just remove the in game currency altogether and force us to buy "UbiPoints" or some such garbage. No. Fuck off.

I already got burned on Street Fighter V, I'll be damned if I buy another game like this again. Reading about it after purchase (stupid move), people seem fine with fight money but it's just a fucking drag to have to grind just to unlock classic characters like Blanka and Guile by playing Survival when they could have made some interesting challenges instead.

I hope this bullshit comes back to bite these stupid companies straight in the ass. Hard pass on this for me.

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

It's the same as any other "The Ubisoft Game". If you enjoy The Ubisoft Game, this is the game for you. It has a map full of "content", only with a twist...you don't have to climb towers in this version of The Ubisoft Game. Perks, RPG elements unlocked by doing 10 of and killing 10 of Y, strongholds to takeover, that's the game. This is a new version of The Ubisoft Game and recommended for fans of previous versions.

 

[Rangaman]

I was gonna post this as a standalone discussion, but fuck it;

So apparently Polygon game 6.5 out of 10 because the game isn't "political" enough. They are salty because it doesn't tackle gun control or other controversies within America. Here's the article: https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/26/17164878/far-cry-5-review-ps4-pc-xbox-one

Well, if it sets the stage to tackle or satirize those issues and then doesn't...yeah, that's a missed opportunity right there, and worth docking a few points. From what I've heard, the game is basically too afraid of offending people and turning away customers, so it does nothing interesting or controversial with its characters. And that, my friend, is bad writing. I know you want to get people's Polygon hate-boners going, but that's just weak and defending shitty practices.

OT: Good to hear it turned out alright. Ubisoft have been churning out far too many mediocre sandbox games over the last few years. Now if they bring back Rayman and Prince of Persia, shelve Assassin's Creed and stop churning out sequels annually, godammit, they will be redeemed in my eyes.

I might play it. At some point in the future, when I have money and time. University, much as I'm liking it so far, is expensive as hell.

 

[jademunky]

It......looks like an ubisoft game.

Not bad or anything, just, gah microtransactions and season passes and it would have to drop down to under $10 (with ALL the DLC) for me to ever consider.