Favorite double standards
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1st, I dunno how it is in other countries but in Sweden nearly every single person (where I live) is a homophobic twat and if they wanna push somebody down or if they're jealous they usually call each others homosexual in really mean ways, that probably explain it all.mazzjammin22 said:
2nd, Yes it is but it still don't stop people to say ignorant things that don't make sense.
3rd, Just something that pisses me off and I have really hard to shut up about... seriously, real skinheads aren't Nazis!
If a woman has sex with a lot of guys, she is a slut.
But if a man has sex with a lot of guys, he is gay.
A classic.
But if a man has sex with a lot of guys, he is gay.
A classic.
CoD fan = Jarhead
TF2 fan = Valve fanboy
Shadow of the Colossus fan (or something like that) = Arty prick
I'm sure there's a lot more of those, but that's just off the top of my head.
TF2 fan = Valve fanboy
Shadow of the Colossus fan (or something like that) = Arty prick
I'm sure there's a lot more of those, but that's just off the top of my head.
When did I post that I dislike ALL religious people? When did I post I went to Catholic school? Sorry that I'm saying something you don't agree with, but please don't go throwing "TROLL!" in my face to try to silence me. Is your next step to burn me at the stake for Heresy? Or to have me stoned to death?NightlyNews said:
I was raised Catholic, I went to church with my family, I went to Confirmation school afterwards every Sunday. I read the bible when I was getting bored with songs and sermons during service. I memorized the prayers. I completely understand the "Holy Trinity", but that seems to me like a bunch of retconned, D&D/comic book back-pedaling to me.
Could it be that through centuries of translation of a religious document composed of oral histories and myths passed through the centuries and across leagues of territory with stories added, removed, lost, destroyed, re-imagined, deliberately mistranslated, flat-out omitted (by biased rulers), and just plain MADE UP at times could possibly have something wrong in it?
I worked for six years in a company that received 10 lbs. of religious pamphlets A WEEK in the return envelopes, and for the most part it was the most jumped-up, condescending, hatemongering, illogical, anti-progress, anti-freedom, inflated-ego shit you'd ever read. And that's where I have my problem. The double-standard of the Christians of any faction that believe in a Man-God who says, "Turn the other cheek, Love thy neighbor" and spout worse intolerant nonsense than any racist 11-year-old with a keyboard and an internet connection.
Can I change that to my double-standard contribution?
As far as understanding basics of Christianity, how about you look up the history of GENOCIDE, SLAVERY, RAPE, THEFT, KIDNAPPING, TORTURE, MASS DESTRUCTION, FALSE ACCUSATION, and WORLDWIDE WARFARE that any religion (but mostly ours) has brought with it?
All because an invisible man in the sky told them it was a good idea. <Thanks, George!
Edit: Oh, yeah and don't forget the CHILD-RAPISTS PROTECTED BY THE CHURCH!
So ... you understand the holy trinity, but earlier were acting like you don't for reasons I'm not quite sure. My original assessment of you being a troll was spot on.Fwee said:
Whatever you think about modern religions it is simple historical fact that sacraments and early religions paved the way for society and moral codes. Why do you think people started burying the dead, paying attention to their ancestors and developing concrete languages to transfer ideas?
What do algebra, early medicine, books and exploration/pilgrimages have in common. They were all directly helped if not out and out started and funded by religions. The sins you listed religion cause are just shit people do to each other no matter what they believe in. But, without Islam algebra and math as a whole would have been severely stunted. Do people do bad things in the name of the Islamic religion. Sure, but as long as the religion itself does not out and out support those actions it is simply it's members will and thereby not proper cause to want the religions out and out disassembly.
You can take the faith from a crazy religious zealot, but that won't change the fact that theyare still a crazy ************.
Well where i'm from, if a guy is known to sleep around a lot, he's labelled a man-whore, which is a pretty negative term.Vault101 said:
What you just said 100% coincides with that the person you're quoting said, I think you may have misread it.Astoria said:
OT: The majority of the double-standards i get annoyed about have already been mentioned (the one about racism above).
The other one i hold stems from the fact i come from a fairly middle class background and am comfortable financially and thus witness the persecution from our government.
It's okay for a pregnant teenage drug addict to recieve free council housing, child care, contraception, food bills, job seekers allowance etc and still be 'bigged up' or have a promise of support put upon them as part of a political party's manifesto; while the people considered middle class, you know the people who ARE comfortably off because they actually WORK for it are called arrogant toffs, accused of having too much power, and are taxed to high heaven for the salaries they fairly work hard for and earn.
I've witnessed my mother go from working class, worrying about making ends meet etc from when i was a child, to where she is today, the owner of the business she once worked for. We now live in a pretty nice house and have no financial worries. I'm incredibly lucky, but she did all that through hard graft, so it's very offending when we are getting politically persecuted for having the comforts she worked damn hard for.
Of course i could be completely wrong and all these individuals who think they have a right to sponge off the welfare systems simply by virture of being born are the future of this country and should be treat like so...
/rant
Nice grammar and spelling by the way. Know-it-alls never have to use proper rules of written English, ever notice that?NightlyNews said:
I guess I should have thought this whole thing out better. I did the original, "Worship Jesus although rule #1 is Hold No False Idols" because this is a thread for Double Standards. Maybe I was trying to, I dunno, WRITE SOMETHING HUMOROUS?
Plus I just pointed out what a bunch of shit I think the "Holy Trinity" is, and you still call me out on it.
Now that I've really started up with this discussion, every one of my posts will be countered with "Troll".
You, sir, are a Troll-Troll.
I like how you've associated Islamic religion as the purveyor of evil deeds and crazy zealots. No one else seems to get listed. Also how you give religion the sole credit for modern progress and the advent of society. Because people who didn't have religion obviously would never have figured out how to count, use tools, cooperate with their neighbors, dig trenches and aqueducts, create medicine, economies, farms, charities, build houses, or form democracies, communes, or nations.
People who use logic and scientific reason are obviously just here to kill, eat, shit, and screw, right?
And I admit I don't have all the answers, and I'm pretty much wasting my time getting into this discussion on a forum for a site about video games. This will never end unless I just stop and let you feel like you've won. So pat yourself on the back, you'll get the last word right after you see that I've responded.
Just let me point out that in my opinion (which I shouldn't even have to fucking type, isn't it obvious that this is all my opinion?):
1. Religion is outdated thinking, and it only holds us back as a worldwide people.
The religious groups of the world continue to build up countless laws to restrict individual choice, even though if we did come from a divine creator that divine entity in it's infinite wisdom gave us the ability to make our own choices.
2. Those with the feeling that they have moral superiority are hypocrites.
Actually, we're all hypocrites. I'm a hypocrite, at least I've got the balls to admit it.
I think i mgiht be wrong (cite me on this) but ALL rape legislation places blame squarely on the male. For example statutory rape is ALWAYS the males fault. Always. No matter what. Im not sure women can even be convicted of rape, only sexual assault. I know the first point is true, not sure about the second. Im sorry about your bad experience. No one wants to offend you by using the term. You have my deepest condolences and trust me the LAST thing i want to do is hurt you about such a sensitive subject.Dulcinea said:
One I often see is: It is perfectly acceptable for someone to jump out of nowhere and strike/shove you but if you try to defend youself it instantly becomes "OMG! What is your problem? Do you have anger management issues? Are you on drugs?"
It's messed up that someone defending themselves from a random attack must either be on drugs or crazy.
It's messed up that someone defending themselves from a random attack must either be on drugs or crazy.
Just speaking as a Christian here, I totally agree with you there. Not only has the Christian in your first bit completely misunderstood what is meant by 'eternity' as mentioned in the bible but they have tried to use it as a means to rule you with fear. Please give them a slap from me next time you hear that.Wuggy said:
Oh well.
This a million times. My dad was a juror on a trial for something like this. Drunken one night stand, girl's feeling bad about it, calls the police. She has a massively inconsistent story by virtue of her being a lying harlot and there is barely any evidence for actual rape (no witnesses of a struggle, she did have housemates, no forced entry, condom used). Half the jury (being women) we're ready to see him sent down as long as possible simply because he was accused of raping him, while the men looked at the evidence and disputed it. The men (including my dad) on the jury were then accused by the women of trying to get another fellow male off the charge! The guy was acquitted, but that whole ordeal now has to stick with him for the rest of his life. Accused of rape. That label will never go away and people will always be just a little bit cautious about him. Even though he actually did nothing wrong and was proven so. Gladly, in this case, she was charged with perverting the course of justice and thus charged all the legal fees of the court and the defendant, so a little justice was administered.LordSnakeEyes said:
But yeah, that's probably one of the most ridiculous double standards there is and one of the most dangerous. Because men basically lose out every time on it due to the actual situation being so ambiguous.
Yeah, well I was speaking in hypotheticals there, neither of those actually happen that often in my life. Being an atheist, I almost never go hard on religion unless directly asked of the reasons why I do not believe in a god or gods. And even then I'm a bit discreet, not because I see being harsh about it is morally wrong but because I try to be a polite person overall.Griffolion said:
However, if someone does say something along the lines of "You're going to burn in hell and you deserve it" I do metaphorically guilt-slap them by explaining how merciless and unjust the whole concept of hell is, and how accepting it as "a just thing" makes your morals questionable and essentially a bad person, as it were. If nothing else, that has gotten people to stop making those kind of cruel statements, in my presence at least.
erm im not sure if its a double standard, or if its even realistic but....
Judith in "Two and a half men" can literally shit on alan and do whatever she wants
Alan does one thing bad and she gets her lawyer involved
it just pisses me off right to hell
(i know its a dumb comedy, but i like it)
Judith in "Two and a half men" can literally shit on alan and do whatever she wants
Alan does one thing bad and she gets her lawyer involved
it just pisses me off right to hell
(i know its a dumb comedy, but i like it)
Yeah I totally agree. Using Hell as an insult/fear-mongering tool is so wrong it's unbelievable. And the concept of Hell many people like this use is really wrong and irreconcilable with the God of infinite love and mercy they claim to worship anyway. There's so much wrong with it on so many levels. I must say you've kept yourself more composed than I have in these situations, I usually just have a big go at them asking how they can be so judgemental when they themselves are so far from perfection like the rest of us.Wuggy said:
Are you contending that Pascal's Wager is stupid? I can't tell from your post. Pascal's Wager is very stupid. It makes some assumptions that it can't possibly know for sure. Like there only being two possibilities: God or no God. Ignoring the fact that there are countless deities. A person is banking on the assumption that his God is the real one amid any number of deities. And what about deities we haven't discovered yet? Pascal's Wager has more holes than swiss cheese.Megahedron said:I would say that one's very region specific. I've heard some... well technically they're horror stories but when combined with the people who tell them they just sound like sob stories. In one community, being religious gets you openly mocked as an idiot, and in others being atheist gets you openly mocked for being a heathen (not to bring up the places where it's a lot worse, we'll worry about the civilized world for now). In both it's just the majority putting down on the minority simply because they can. Kinda sucks.OneStepAhead said:I am simply speaking from experience, I tend to be more tolerant of other's beliefs and cultures, while i am shunned for being an atheist.SvenBTB said:
I don't wanna start any fights or ruffle any feathers, but a very good example of this is Stephen Hawking saying "There is no heaven". Such a stink about that.
Think about this, if a good christian man wants to share the "Word of god", it doesn't seem to bother anyone. But if someone starts passing out fliers saying "Religion is Foolishness", people are pissed.
Also, (self-pity soliloquy) damn it, I'm not a moron, if you people would actually look up Pascal's Wager. You may not agree with it, and I don't give two shits about changing your beliefs, but it's not like I'm flying blind here. Sometimes I hate my friends.
A couple of my favourites:
Person kills an infant and molests a child and goes to prison. Everyone thinks that person is evil and inhuman. The person finds God, all of the sudden they're now fine because they've repented. A religious person who has done what they can to be a good person and lives a happy and successful life deconverts because they have thought long and hard about it and have found that, to them, it makes no sense, and is suddenly evil and inhuman.
Militant atheist condemns theists merely for being theists. Atheist fine, theists outraged.
Militant theist condemns atheists merely for being atheists. Theists fine, atheists outraged.
Person kills an infant and molests a child and goes to prison. Everyone thinks that person is evil and inhuman. The person finds God, all of the sudden they're now fine because they've repented. A religious person who has done what they can to be a good person and lives a happy and successful life deconverts because they have thought long and hard about it and have found that, to them, it makes no sense, and is suddenly evil and inhuman.
Militant atheist condemns theists merely for being theists. Atheist fine, theists outraged.
Militant theist condemns atheists merely for being atheists. Theists fine, atheists outraged.