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Mr. Fancy Pants

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'He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither' - paraphrase of Benjamin Franklin
Man, that is such a load of anarchistic crap. So people who don't want to live in complete fear all the time don't deserve any kind of freedom? Franklin was an idealistic idiot.
At some levels security is feasible without impinging on the freedoms of the secure, surely?

It all depends on your definition of freedom, and each individual's perception of what the correct balance between civil liberty and intrusive security is
But balance is exactly what Franklin denies if that quote is to be taken seriously. It's an all or nothing situation. If I wanna kill someone, but the cops don't let me because they also stop people from killing me, my freedom is still being stifled, whether or not killing is deemed a part of civil liberty. If Franklin meant for balance, he wouldn't have said that.
 

Findlebob

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"There are only two things that are infinite the universe and human stupidity and im not that sure about the first."

Albert Einstein
 

assassinslover

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"Doubt thou the stars are fire; doubt thou the sun doth move; doubt truth to be a liar; but never doubt I love." ~ Shakespeare

"So it goes." Slaughterhouse V by Kurt Vonnegut

"'My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath:a source of little visible delight, but necessary. Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.'? ~ Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte

"I did not know whether I would ever speak to her or, if I did speak to her, how I could tell her of my confused affection. But my body was like a harp and her words and gestures were like fingers running upon the wires." Araby by James Joyce

When I was reading through the last story in school that quote really jumped out at me and had stuck with me ever since.
 

Jatyu

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"The enemy of my enemy is an inconvenience to be dealt with at a later time. For now they may be useful."

-One of the Ciaphas Cain novels
 

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Terry Pratchett is Memetic.


Knowledge = Power = Energy = Matter = Mass. A library is just a genteel black hole that can read.

The fact is that camels are far more intelligent than dolphins.*
* Never trust a species that grins all the time. It's up to something.

Rincewind gave his fingers a long shocked stare, as one might regard a gun that has been hanging on the wall for decades and has suddenly gone off and perforated the cat.

Greebo's technique was unscientific and wouldn't have stood a chance against any decent swordmanship, but on his side was the fact that it is almost impossible to develop decent swordmanship when you seem to have run into a food mixer that is biting your ear off.

Elves are wonderful. They provoke wonder.
Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.
Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.
Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.
Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.
Elves are terrific. They beget terror.
The thing about words is that meaning can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning.
No one ever said elves are nice.
Elves are bad.

Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness.

There is a curse.
They say:
May you live in interesting times.

Probably the last sound heard before the Universe folded up like a paper hat would be someone saying, 'What happens if I do this?'

WORDS IN THE HEART CANNOT BE TAKEN -Dorfl

'And there's the sign, Ridcully,' said the Dean. You have read it, I assume. You know? The sign which says "Do not, under any circumstances, open this door"?'
'Of course I've read it,' said Ridcully. 'Why d'yer think I want it opened?'
'Er...why?' said the Lecturer in Recent Runes.
'To see why they wanted it shut, of course.'?
? This exchange contains almost all you need to know about human civilisation. At least, those bits of it that are now under the sea, fenced off or still smoking.

"All right," said Susan, "I'm not stupid. You're saying humans need ... fantasies to make life bearable."
No. Humans need fantasy to be human. To be the place where the falling angel meet the rising ape.
"Tooth fairies? Hogfathers?"
Yes. As practice. You have to start out learning to believe the little lies.
"So we can believe the big ones?"
Yes. Justice. Duty. Mercy. That sort of thing.
"They're not the same at all!"
Really? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder and sieve it through the finest sieve and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet you act, like there was some sort of rightness in the universe by which it may be judged:
"Yes. But people have got to believe that or what's the point?"
My point exactly.

Simple. Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life.

Genius is always allowed some leeway, once the hammer has been pried from its hands and the blood has been cleaned up.

What sort of man would put a known criminal in charge of a major branch of government? Apart from, say, the average voter.

+++ I am sorry. It is hard to convey five-dimensional ideas in a language evolved to scream defiance at the monkeys in the next tree. +++

'Collecting was enormous popular among the English of this century. Bones, shells, butterflies, birds, other people's countries...'
 

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"What are you all ducking for, they couldn't hit an elephant at this dist..."
 

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From a game:
"You bore me, mageling."
- Jon Irenicus

From real life:
"***** are you HIGH?"
- Fellow classmate to teacher.

Favourite:
"Don't worry, be happy" - Bobby McFerlin
I don't even listen to any of Bobby McFerlin's stuff, but damn, that is a good philosophy to live by.
 

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God will forgive them. God will forgive them and allow them into Heaven. I can't live with that.
Richard - Dead Man's Shoes.

I gots the shotgun, you gots the briefcase. S'All in the game though.
Omar Little - The Wire.
 

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Mr. Fancy Pants said:
J03bot said:
Mr. Fancy Pants said:
J03bot said:
'He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither' - paraphrase of Benjamin Franklin
Man, that is such a load of anarchistic crap. So people who don't want to live in complete fear all the time don't deserve any kind of freedom? Franklin was an idealistic idiot.
At some levels security is feasible without impinging on the freedoms of the secure, surely?

It all depends on your definition of freedom, and each individual's perception of what the correct balance between civil liberty and intrusive security is
But balance is exactly what Franklin denies if that quote is to be taken seriously. It's an all or nothing situation. If I wanna kill someone, but the cops don't let me because they also stop people from killing me, my freedom is still being stifled, whether or not killing is deemed a part of civil liberty. If Franklin meant for balance, he wouldn't have said that.
To use your specific example (i.e. killing some randomer), you've just removed their freedom to do... anything, really.
And you've almost certainly done this for your own security, whether you feel threatened by them, feel your peace of mind would be improved by removal of that annoying influence, or feel a certain curiosity as to what extinguishing another human life would feel like (emotional/mental assurance).

It seems we have somewhat different views on what constitutes freedom and security...
 

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"Ping Pong was invented on the dining tables of Britain, in the nineteenth century. And, ladies and gentlemen, it was called Wiff Waff." - Boris Johnson, Mayor of London
"Trust is a knife and the hilt is as sharp as the blade" - Robert Jordan
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and its people, and neither do we." - George Bush
 

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"Once the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend."

-Infantry Handbook

Yes it actually says that.
 

Mr. Fancy Pants

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J03bot said:
Mr. Fancy Pants said:
J03bot said:
Mr. Fancy Pants said:
J03bot said:
'He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither' - paraphrase of Benjamin Franklin
Man, that is such a load of anarchistic crap. So people who don't want to live in complete fear all the time don't deserve any kind of freedom? Franklin was an idealistic idiot.
At some levels security is feasible without impinging on the freedoms of the secure, surely?

It all depends on your definition of freedom, and each individual's perception of what the correct balance between civil liberty and intrusive security is
But balance is exactly what Franklin denies if that quote is to be taken seriously. It's an all or nothing situation. If I wanna kill someone, but the cops don't let me because they also stop people from killing me, my freedom is still being stifled, whether or not killing is deemed a part of civil liberty. If Franklin meant for balance, he wouldn't have said that.
To use your specific example (i.e. killing some randomer), you've just removed their freedom to do... anything, really.
And you've almost certainly done this for your own security, whether you feel threatened by them, feel your peace of mind would be improved by removal of that annoying influence, or feel a certain curiosity as to what extinguishing another human life would feel like (emotional/mental assurance).

It seems we have somewhat different views on what constitutes freedom and security...
I'm just taking Franklin exactly at his word. Without adding my opinions to the mix, the quote means what I stated originally, and I have serious issues with any kind of anarchistic beliefs. I've got nothing against yours, mate.
 

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"Opinions are like testicles. You kick them hard enough, it doesn't matter how many you've got"

I love Varric.
 

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People who ask our advice almost never take it. Yet we should never refuse to give it, upon request, for it often helps us to see our own way more clearly.
Brendan Francis

Mercy for the guilty is treason to the internet
Kahlan, Faith of The Fallen, Terry Goodkind

If two men agree on everything, you may be sure that one of them is doing the thinking.
Lyndon B. Johnson

"This is great, 'cuz I can finally get hepatitis."
Shrader~Accepted
 

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"I don't like being a bastard, they just don't leave me any choice. That's probably what god says, too."

-Marshal Law

"Life didn't pass me by, son. It sat on my head."

-Al Bundy

"It's as if every time I leave my house it's as if I've given up my every right to be treated with respect! You think my difference from you is an excuse to comment on me, as if I were on display for you!!!"

-Johnny C