FBI brands internet privacy as terrorism.

[Mycroft Holmes]

I have no love for the FBI but here it seems people just want to hate US authorities in the wake of ACTA on any basis they can find, even if that means taking it totally out of context and twisting its meaning backwards Fox News style.

Where is the twisted context? I have the entire Ragnar Benson collection saved on my computer. I am highly concerned about privacy. I use methods to shield my IP address including the use of proxies. I make communications that are highly suspicious(in regards to content) over VOIP software all the time. I don't need a bunch of idiots or government agents(sorry that may have been a tautology,) following me around and digging into my personal life. For one its a huge invasion of my privacy and the privacy of others. For two it's a huge waste of time and resources.

Any terrorist who gets caught is completely stupid and is going to fail anyways. The ones who aren't caught are not going to be caught ever because of some stupid list of things to watch out for. And they aren't going to be caught pre-attack ever, because hiding from the government while doing lots of damage is really really really easily.

With zero suspicious purchases one can get a Cessna and fly around California dropping Molotov cocktails when the Santa Anna wins start blowing. Would easily cause billions of dollars in property damages. A couple properly set up claymores in Disneyland at opening would kill hundreds of people. Airport security is a joke that assumes terrorists firstly are going to only target airports and secondly are going to take the time to walk through their detection equipment. Getting onto the tarmac by hopping a fence is pretty easy and once you are there people just assume you're supposed to be there. The reason terrorists aren't blowing us up is because they really don't at all care to do so. Not because of this fear mongering list.

by stripping us of our god given fucking inalienable rights

As Carlin pointed out there's several problems with that idea.

1) The government can take them away at any time they want, has done so in the past and will continue to do so in the future. So they aren't really rights so much as temporary privileges that mean nothing if people don't stop them from being taken away. And no one ever does, everyone just says "not my problem" or "oh its just a little bit of privacy in exchange for safety." So uhhh inalienable... not so much.

2) How are they 'God given' rights? There have been tons of countries with more rights than the US and many with less. Does God like Swedish citizens more than it likes US citizens? Does he think that brown people should have less rights? And what about all the rights that have been added over the years? Did God just fuck up and forget to mention that women have the 'inalienable' right to vote until the 1920s? Did he forget to mention slavery until the 1800s?

Im not a fucking terrorist.

That's exactly what a terrorist would say...

 

[kouriichi]

Yes, of course. I must be a terrorist because im covering my screen so the 9 yearold and his mother on the bus beside me doesnt see my HARDCORE TENTACLE ON BLUE HAIRED ASIAN CHICK PRONZ.

And this all seems kinda..... stupid? Yeah. Stupid. Most fitting word i can think of.
First they say to watch out for people downloading:
"Content of extreme/radical nature with violent themes
- Anarchist Cookbook, explosives or weapons information
- Military tactics, equipment manuals, chemical or biological information
- Terrorist/revolutionary literature
- Preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks
- Defensive tactics, police or government information
- Information about timers, electronics, or remote transmitters / receivers"

But then they say:
"Do not collect metadata, content, or
search electronic communications of
individuals"

How can you prove the first in ANY WAY without doing the latter?
*facepalm* So anyone who likes to study or read up on weaponry (such as me), likes to know how to protect themselves (with potentially body armor or defensive items such as mace or tasers), or actually CARES about the terrorist attacks on the news, is probably a terrorist, and you should stalk them, and tell the police about them being a terrorist?

Sigh. It seems like everyday i wake up in America..... It feels like i need to leave it faster and faster >.>;

 

[Aprilgold]

Got to love how the good old US of A is so quick to label people as a terrorist to make the masses agree with what their government does. It's a word meant to instill fear and panic into the masses but the way they are watering down the word a little too much now. \

I could suddenly say my cat is a terrorist if I were to ever disown her, it would make for a good excuse.

Yes, I completely blame how we reacted to 911 and the fact that we had George W Bush Jr in office for 8 years. That didn't help at all.

All I can say is. Come now CIA, do your fucking job and stop choosing random things to call terrorism to get support, gain support through your actions, not through your words.

 

[zerobudgetgamer]

OK, can someone explain what "Evidence of a residential based internet provider" means? Because that sounds like they're saying if you get your Internet from Comcast or AOL, you are immediately a terrorist?

Now, aside from that...


 Suspicious communications using VOIP or communicating through a PC game

So, we're basically taking that whole paranoid phone-tapping thing from a few years ago, where people were afraid to say certain "buzz words" into their phones for fear they'd get arrested for it, and moving it onto the Internet? How could this POSSIBLY go wrong?!


 Gather information about vulnerable infrastructure or obtain photos, maps or
diagrams of transportation, sporting venues, or populated location

Does anyone else use Google Maps to A. search for directions to a place, B. scope out a sporting venue to see what parking may be like, and/or C. just look into populated locations to maybe either see what's around or, like B, find a good place to park? Well, guess you're a terrorist for that.


Oh, and let's not forget:

 Download content of extreme/radical nature with violent themes

So I guess if you're into snuff films, Guro, BDSM, and whatever the hell else they show in the /d/ section of 4chan, you're going to have to turn yourself in.

 

[aoi287]

Oh no, I'm really particular about my privacy!

Run for it guys!

 

[GameMaNiAC]

I never let people read my e-mail or my text messages to my girlfriend. OH GOD. I AM A TERRORIST.

 

[Old Father Eternity]

Some here say that what is said there does not imply branding as terrorism, that may be but if you take into consideration the paranoia, foolishness and determination of the people involved, it might as well be as the title suggests. This may be a relatively small thing but such small things have a tendency to royally screw us over and do massive damage.

This One may be paranoid as well and have a rather pessimistic view of the world but One has said it before and will say it again. A grim future awaits us.
These sort of things were easier to overcome some decades ago but now there are actually viable methods of keeping the control and increasing it. Perhaps it is best that we never leave this rock, as those of us who truly strive towards progress of betterment are few and their voice is drowned by the ocean of stupidity.

Nevertheless, hope lingers but only time will truly tell.

 

[j0frenzy]

Look ma! I was doing my history homework starting a terrorist cell.
http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

 

[kasperbbs]

My friend has 3 cellphones, each with a different sim, he must be a terrorist! Dammit, my mom also has two.. Oh wait, i don't live in America.

 

[teh_Canape]

okay this is starting to get silly now

 

[oxfer123]

Did anybody else notice that they called it "Communities Against Terrorism" or C.A.T. for short

 

[KiKiweaky]

America broke the word terrorist, it used to be people blowing up planes. Now just for a being a little odd, walking too far to get to your internet cafe, using a second phone or having a 'suspicious' conversations via voice over ip you can be suspected of terrorism. Love the little disclaimer at the end of it though, just to satisfy the politically correct crowd.

Making an armed society that paranoid.... best of luck guys your going to need it.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

America: the land of the terrorist.

Yeah, cause honestly, if someone doesn't think of the multi-conglomerates and corporations... who the fuck will? They'll lose millions against their unimaginable trillions.

It's funny how Piracy, a selfish and anarchic career at it's worst (or a means to breach a countries censorship and suppression at best) is classified a form of terrorism, before extreme right wing Christianity, who are as blood thirsty as any Muslim extremists, but have a well funded army to do the dirty work for them.

I wonder if the FBI realises that they, at this point, have essentially labelled every non-patriotic-american as terrorists at this point. Far as I can tell, they do this to justify their paycheck.

 

[The Funslinger]

OT: This is... terribly. Hilariously terrifying actually. Makes me appreciate the fact that I'm nowhere near the US of A.

*Ahem*

I believe it's pronounced "oosah".

OT: Well, this is just another piece of stupidity that won't come to anything. Even if it is the FBI (knock on wood).

 

[Vhite]

So killing thousands of people = singing the happy birthday song?

EDIT: Oops, I misread privacy as a piracy.

 

[Dilapsor]

I am so, so disappointed in all of you. Did none of you even read the flier itself? This is just a list of suspicious activities, aimed at owners of internet cafes, that they should be aware of. These aren't laws, they aren't FBI training manuals, and they aren't that friggin' serious. In fact, the little handout is in no way different from those "How to Spot A Dope User" that the DARE program used to hand out in the 80s and 90s.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being suspicious of anyone doing any of these things in a public (yet privately owned) internet cafe.

 

[Old Father Eternity]

In fact, the little handout is in no way different from those "How to Spot A Dope User" that the DARE program used to hand out in the 80s and 90s.

If you had not noticed, the issue at hand is 'tad bit' more serious then some petty weed ownership. Perhaps the person has no other possible internet access point nearby and needs to something private, fill out some forms with private info or what not, does he not have the right to not let all the people present in the establishment know those pieces of information, Yes, yes he does and does he deserve to be punished for not letting random people see his social security number or bank account passwords, NO, no he does not.
You may want to retort on that but still, keep in mind, Paranoia and Ignorance, not unlikely that someone may get the wrong idea, overreact and then ruin perhaps just the day but in the worst case scenario, the life of a perfectly normal law abiding citizen.