FDA Approves First Covid-19 Vaccine (Pfizer)

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By this logic, next time I sprain my ankle, I should request a transorbital lobotomy to fix it.
Years later known as the Agema Incident of 2021.

I second that I've heard people get pretty annoying side effects usually along with the second dose of Moderna. Looking forward to it.
 

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Years later known as the Agema Incident of 2021.

I second that I've heard people get pretty annoying side effects usually along with the second dose of Moderna. Looking forward to it.
Weren't there benefits to mixing vaccines? Why not get a different one.
 

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Can't even get them these days. Inasmuch as the concept still exists, transorbital lobotomy has been replaced by vastly more precise forms of psychosurgery like anterior cingulotomy or subcaudate tractotomy, where they fire radiation beams at a target area and burn it out. Same process can be used for some brain tumours.
 

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Well then, I guess if its discoverers won a Nobel Prize, then that means ivermectin is perfectly good to treat a completely different condition than it was originally discovered for, at doses far higher than conventionally recommended.

By this logic, next time I sprain my ankle, I should request a transorbital lobotomy to fix it.
Crap, I came back to say, 'by that logic, you should get a leg amputated when your back hurts.' You beat me to it

inb4 some one points out drugs that arent used for is approved purposes, such as the prostate cancer drug that is used by women and women transitioning (for separate reasons). That drug is not approved for those conditions, too. Thus, medical advice for experimental treatments is highly advised as it dangerous and longer term use can cause a range of problems.

You local Miracle Solution dealer is not a doctor
 

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Can't even get them these days. Inasmuch as the concept still exists, transorbital lobotomy has been replaced by vastly more precise forms of psychosurgery like anterior cingulotomy or subcaudate tractotomy, where they fire radiation beams at a target area and burn it out. Same process can be used for some brain tumours.
How does separating the Limbic system from the frontal cortex help a patient?
 

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How does separating the Limbic system from the frontal cortex help a patient?
Emotions are primarly processed in the limbic system. The prefrontal cortex is a sort of higher order organisational processing - it takes inputs which are processed elsewhere in the brain (sensory, memory, emotion, etc.) and puts them together to give what you recognise as conscious thought. So if the right connections in or from the limbic system are destroyed, it should impair the ability to process emotion. If they're particularly adverse emotions that severely impair a person's life, that might be overall beneficial. Chances are it's going to impair other things too, because the limbic system does a lot more than emotion, and emotional centres interact with a lot more parts of the brain than the prefrontal cortex.
 

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Fuck, like it's not already expensive to build a house.
Fortunately for people like me who are planning to finish their garage before winter, drywall prices have stabilized after seeing about a 6.6% increase in the last year. I wouldn’t want to be building a deck though.
 

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I wonder if this will actually change the minds of those people who refuse to get vaccinated because "it's not FDA approved". Will they reconsider, or will they find another excuse to hide behind?
Does it matter? They're still idiots. Did anyone actually think that there's a reasonable chance that the FDA wouldn't approve the Pfizer vaccine?
 
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Well then, I guess if its discoverers won a Nobel Prize, then that means ivermectin is perfectly good to treat a completely different condition than it was originally discovered for, at doses far higher than conventionally recommended.

By this logic, next time I sprain my ankle, I should request a transorbital lobotomy to fix it.
I'm not defending the use of Ivermectin to tread covid, just explaining facts. The person I originally responded to said that he didn't understand, so I was attempting to help him understand.
 

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I'm not defending the use of Ivermectin to tread covid, just explaining facts. The person I originally responded to said that he didn't understand, so I was attempting to help him understand.
No, the person you responded to asked a rhetorical question. The rhetorical question is a device in language where the form of a question is used to make a statement, thus does not require an answer to the literal meaning of the question.
 

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No, the person you responded to asked a rhetorical question. The rhetorical question is a device in language where the form of a question is used to make a statement, thus does not require an answer to the literal meaning of the question.
The post I responded to was not in the form of a question.
 

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I wonder if this will actually change the minds of those people who refuse to get vaccinated because "it's not FDA approved". Will they reconsider, or will they find another excuse to hide behind?
That sound you hear is the goalposts being moved.

"If it was safe, why did it take so long?"
"But Moderna/J&J isn't approved....."
"WHO/UN/CDC/SEELE/ILLUMNATI/Patriots/Stonecutters! Microchips! Big Reset! Chemtrails! Gay Frogs! Flat Earth! *Incoherent rambling*"

Okay, that last one is basically just the insanity I see all the damn time seeing comments on social media. The Vaccine and Covid are all part of some massive conspiracy by....big mask or something.
 
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The post I responded to was not in the form of a question.
No, upon rereading it you are correct, although exactly the same principle applies and it is a rhetorical statement where the literal meaning is not meant to be interpreted. The "I don't understand why..." is disingenuous, as an explanation with implicit conclusion is supplied which indicates in fact the author has a very good idea why.
 

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No, upon rereading it you are correct, although exactly the same principle applies and it is a rhetorical statement where the literal meaning is not meant to be interpreted. The "I don't understand why..." is disingenuous, as an explanation with implicit conclusion is supplied which indicates in fact the author has a very good idea why.
To be clear, I cannot understand how a known neurotoxin is seen as a more viable option than a vaccine. It literally does not make sense to me

We are very clear on the danger of one and have very good idea of what little dangers the other one holds. So... lets choose the dangerous one? It does not make sense to me

But then, I cannot really fathom mothers of Autistic kids shoving bleach up their ass to help cure it. Or misinterpreting the intestinal wall just being burnt off the kids body sloughing out their anus is actually worms

Emotions are primarly processed in the limbic system. The prefrontal cortex is a sort of higher order organisational processing - it takes inputs which are processed elsewhere in the brain (sensory, memory, emotion, etc.) and puts them together to give what you recognise as conscious thought. So if the right connections in or from the limbic system are destroyed, it should impair the ability to process emotion. If they're particularly adverse emotions that severely impair a person's life, that might be overall beneficial. Chances are it's going to impair other things too, because the limbic system does a lot more than emotion, and emotional centres interact with a lot more parts of the brain than the prefrontal cortex.
I thought the amygdala was the emotional processing area, not the cingulate cortex. Or is that cortex just the 'access point' of the limbic system to the frontal lobes (I thought the amygdala was in the temporal)

I'm trying to remember anatomy I did 20 years ago. Sorry
 

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I thought the amygdala was the emotional processing area, not the cingulate cortex. Or is that cortex just the 'access point' of the limbic system to the frontal lobes (I thought the amygdala was in the temporal)
The amygdala is a major nucleus for emotion, but there are others - it's quite distributed across bits of the limbic system. The amygdala is most classically associated with fear / anxiety / stress / (anger). Reward is heavily the nucleus accumbens, and... offhand I can't think of any others specifically.

I'm not that hot on anatomy. I know the cingulate cortex is part of the limbic system, roughly where it is, and not much else. As part of the limbic system, burning a bit of out may directly target a dysfunctional region or, as you suggest, it's actually burning out a communication pathway.
 

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Greg Abbott has expanded his TX ban on vaccine mandates to include vaccines that have full FDA approval and the goalposts continue their migratory pattern to who the fuck knows where. There's something inherently masochistic about being Texan.
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