CrossLOPER said:
Joccaren said:
Uhh... Perhaps you didn't read this;
OP lives in US. There are plenty of retailers for this stuff.
I'm going to quote it again, 'cause you apparently haven't read it, as it comes up again later on in your post - I'll put in bold the important bit;
it's actually i just want the best possible rig, but i don't know how to pick up components that's the thing.
"Its actually that I want the best possible rig".
I'll bring this up later, so remember it.
My internet browser/explorer/W.E you want to call it. Being pedantic in such matters serves no purpose, and it is understood what was meant.
At the same time? WHY? Are you writing half a line of code between loading screens? Why are you doing this? Just get a cheap laptop and torrent to that.
Generally I'm writing code for a mod, whilst researching on the Internet for the mod and what I'll be doing, a well as editing game assets in a world editor if the game comes with one, and testing the results in game. Additionally I'll also be swapping between work and gaming, dependent on which I feel like doing at a given time, and alt-tabbing takes 0.5 seconds whilst closing and starting up the programs takes closer to 30. Yeah, 30 seconds, first world problems and all that - I still like the added convenience though.
And I have a cheap laptop. I CBF copying across everything from my laptop to my PC every time I want to do things - that would just take hours of additional time as I not only have to download it buy copy it between computers before installing. When downloading large programs or files, like Texture Packs for Skyrim that add up to 9Gb or so, this takes a lot of time and is easier just done on the one PC.
I don't know if chrome has gotten really bad, but I've had multiple pdf documents open, multiple tabs in firefox(one with streaming), an AVGN
video playing, steam running along with one or two word documents while playing DoW2 and I barely got above 3. You might have some crap running in the background there.
EDIT: Just for funsies, I opened up 10 tabs in firefox, eclipse, thunderbird, steam and gimp 2. Nowhere near 3GB.
Does minecraft really require all this stuff for you?
Yes, the majority comes from gaming. Sadly Skyrim caps at 3-4Gb, but Minecraft when running with all my mods installed runs at about 6Gb. At least it used to, updates and patches have come that may have reduced that a bit, but I haven't checked.
It is pointless to "futureproof" a PC. You should buy what you need now, with some considerations to the near future (about a year).
It is SOMEWHAT pointless to futureproof a PC. You can still game on a Pentium IV if you want to - I was until 3 years ago. 3.4Ghz single core. Had no problems, though I was playing at 720p at that point in time. Buying a reasonably priced mid-range CPU, that is certainly far more than you NEED for gaming, is not a bad investment as I've already had my current CPU for 2 years, and I'll be keeping it for another 6-8 at least.
Hard Drives you can also future proof with. I'd consider it rare to use more than 1Tb of disk space, unless you download a lot of TV shows and movies or something, yet I still have 2Tb of space in my PC as it wasn't that expensive, and in the case I do come down to needing more space I'll be ready for it.
RAM, if you do it intelligently, is also something you can future proof to an alright extent with. Rather than getting 32Gb of 1333Mhz RAM though you should go for 16Gb of 2133Mhz RAM. The extra speed will do you more good than excessive capacity when future proofing, considering generally you won't use over 8Gb ATM.
Motherboards are also rather easy to future proof, unless you're trying to stay at the top of the line with all the extra functionality coming out for them. Most of the time you should only need a new motherboard if you're upgrading your CPU. There are a couple of exceptions, but I wouldn't think of them as being all that common.
Things that are useless to future-proof, or not cost effective, are your Graphics Cards. Graphics Cards because there are some Stress-test type games coming out in the next couple of years, and rather than greatly exceeding them greatly now, but falling behind in 2 years time when a game that is much more graphically demanding comes out, you should meet the requirements now, and exceed when there's going to be a 3-4 year gap between graphically intensive games - probably one or two years into the next console cycle.
Considerations to the near future of about a year away means you're likely to be upgrading every 1-2 years, and paying at least $250 each upgrade - probably more if you have to do a full rig overhaul 'cause you haven't future proofed anything. The way I do mine is so that I've already gone 2 years without upgrading, I'll go one more before getting a new graphics card - which will either be useable or future-proofed dependent on how the graphics trend seems to be going at that time - and I'm not touching my CPU or Motherboard for the next 6 years at least, with my RAM maybe receiving one extra $15 stick sometime if I feel up to it. The goal isn't to stay at the top of the range for years, its to hit the top of the range, then slowly fall back with time. ATM there's quick scaling back, but once the new console generation comes out and focus shifts back that way things'll slow down again.
OP never mentioned a resolution. OP also never mentioned that they want to do anything other than play guildwars.
Yes, OP never mentioned a resolution. I'd be hoping its 1080p considering most TVs, which don't provide the greatest image quality, can display 1080p ATM, and monitors go up to 1600p with higher resolutions coming out in future.
As for the "They never mentioned that they want to do anything other than play Guildwars", I'll direct you to what I told you to remember;
"Its actually that I want the best possible rig". Additionally you'll find that they mentioned making Crysis 3 their ***** too.
Regardless of whether you think they need the best possible rig or not, its what they want, and you suggesting a low-mid range as the best they can get isn't helping with that.
Why? Is a 500$ monitor standard now?
You'll note; "IMO for the best gaming experience"
I never said "For a passable gaming experience", I said "For the best gaming experience".
Additionally: "Its actually that I want the best possible rig"
Again, why? Why large? For storage? If we are talking about storage, then the entire performance argument is moot.
Again, see above.
And no, the performance argument does not become moot because of additional storage. Yes, additional things stored on an SSD slow it down overall - my PC takes 5 seconds to boot rather than the 0.5 it originally took - but that's still faster than the 30 seconds it took with my HDD, so both performance and storage space are provided.
Mechanical keyboards are not necessary. I have one. It feels really nice, but I suppose I could get along without one. If you have the money, why not?
Again, look up. "Best gaming Experience". "Best Possible Rig". I never said it was necessary to have one, its just there if you want the best.
I just noticed that the build has a liquid cooling system. I can't think of a possible reason apart from noise reduction, though your sound system should totally drown that out.
Unless you're not playing a game or music at that point in time, or have other people in the house who would be annoyed by your sound system, in which case it is really quite audible. Additionally, if OP plans on overclocking Liquid cooling is highly recommended. Granted it doesn't sound like Overclocking would be his sort of thing, but still.
And again, "Best gaming experience", "Best Possible Rig".
OP, you should do what you think sounds right. RAM is cheap, SSDs are getting cheaper and video cards are outclassed annually. Just keep that in mind.
This falls into a trap of forcing yourself to constantly have a mediocre experience in games, however, 'cause the future will always have something better and cheaper current gen items. You are stuck constantly behind, and never having a really great experience, though certainly a passable one, because "It'll be cheaper in the future", and when it is cheaper better things are out leaving you still far behind in getting a great experience. That might be enough for you. OP has requested "The best possible rig". Hence, that is what we are suggesting.
