Female brutality - NOW WITH VIDEO!!!

[boag]

The dude isnt showing self control out of some form of Chivalry, the dude is showing self control because of Guilt.

He cheated on her, and the only way she found to deal with her frustration and anger was to beat the crap out of him. Was it smart? No. Was it rational? No. Was it even Justified? nope.

But seriously what course of action did she have left?

there is no legislation available to protect people in this position.

BS, he was showing restraint because he knew people were watching and if he retaliated he'd probably have been the one in cuffs.

You ask what legislation is available for people in her position? Why should there be, cheating in a relationship isn't a legal matter, nor should it be. All she can do is scream at him and break up. Like a normal person. There's no excuse for violence and the dumb ***** deserves jail time.

I do believe cheating is a form of emotional abuse.

You cant say that devoting yourself to a commited relationship, isnt damaging.

***READ***, I am not condoning her acts, I am merely pointing out the fact that people can get away with cheating without any form of punishment.

 

[Actual]

I dunno. It sounds like he's been caught cheating on her and if so he deserves much worse than she's given.

I'd like to think if a bloke cheated on a friend of mine I'd knock him out.

Though maybe she's just mental, as the attack on the police suggests.

 

[Epona]

The dude isnt showing self control out of some form of Chivalry, the dude is showing self control because of Guilt.

He cheated on her, and the only way she found to deal with her frustration and anger was to beat the crap out of him. Was it smart? No. Was it rational? No. Was it even Justified? nope.

But seriously what course of action did she have left?

there is no legislation available to protect people in this position.

BS, he was showing restraint because he knew people were watching and if he retaliated he'd probably have been the one in cuffs.

You ask what legislation is available for people in her position? Why should there be, cheating in a relationship isn't a legal matter, nor should it be. All she can do is scream at him and break up. Like a normal person. There's no excuse for violence and the dumb ***** deserves jail time.

I do believe cheating is a form of emotional abuse.

You cant say that devoting yourself to a commited relationship, isnt damaging.

***READ***, I am not condoning her acts, I am merely pointing out the fact that people can get away with cheating without any form of punishment.

So, would you be raising this argument if HE beat the crap out of HER for cheating? Would you be saying "What other option did HE have?"

 

[Exocet]

That dude has massive self-control,every one here should applaud that.
Personally,I would have warned her about stopping,and the consequences if she didn't,then punch her in the throat and lock her down.

Can't stand the heat? Get out of the kitchen,and sweet cheeks,my kitchen runs hot.

Can't warn someone of consequences. That's terroristic threatening

wat?

So,according to you,police officers that warn criminals to drop their weapons,or they will be forced to fire are "terrorictical threatening"?

If I warn someone punching me that I will defend myself,I'm threatening them?
That's the fucking point.I'm threatening to defend myself.

This is a semantic issue.
I'm guessing you're thinking of an offensive threat,such as a bomb threat.Which I agree,is illegal.
But telling someone:"stop it,or else I'll punch you back" isn't.

 

[manic_depressive13]

predicting evidence does not disprove it. I agree with most of what you say, but getting an INB4 on an argument does not make it irrelevant. so WHY is the 'amazingathiest' a 'fucking idiot'?

He makes badly reasoned arguments which he presents by yelling at the camera like a douchebag. He projects the attitudes of a small minority onto an entire group. He acts as though men are somehow being repressed by women, all the while ignoring the fact that these attitudes are being perpetuated by men. For example, regaring the rape case, for every comment in which women were supposedly claiming it was "empowering", I encountered at least ten facetious comments by men saying that they'd like for that to happen to them. Violence against men by women just isn't being taken seriously by other men.

He also makes the common, idiotic error of suggesting that feminism is about female dominion, when in reality it is about equality. Feminists are not ignoring the issue of women committing violence against men. Feminists are saying that this is disgusting and it has to stop. They're saying that we need to abondon the perception of the weak, innocent girl and accept that regardless of gender everyone is human, and humans are capable of committing atrocities. But for some reason people are wedded to the idea that feminists want revenge on men or something. He's also fat and generally unlikeable.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

The dude isnt showing self control out of some form of Chivalry, the dude is showing self control because of Guilt.

He cheated on her, and the only way she found to deal with her frustration and anger was to beat the crap out of him. Was it smart? No. Was it rational? No. Was it even Justified? nope.

But seriously what course of action did she have left?

there is no legislation available to protect people in this position.

Hahaha...what? What the...what?

Okay...

#1. Don't hypothesize as to why person X is doing action Y. That's ridiculous. You don't know.
#2. Even if you did know, and even if he did cheat on her, since when does cheating = beating?

Cheating is a rotten thing to do. You are justified in being upset. Maybe even justified in some screaming, and Hard Words. Certainly justified in ending the relationship. You are not, however, justified in hailing blows down on the cheater's head. No matter how tiny and feminine your fists are. Hitting is Not Okay.

And really, you don't need to be "protected" from having a significant other cheat on you. Cheating is not illegal. Physical abuse is.

 

[Epona]

I dunno. It sounds like he's been caught cheating on her and if so he deserves much worse than she's given.

I'd like to think if a bloke cheated on a friend of mine I'd knock him out.

Though maybe she's just mental, as the attack on the police suggests.

You sound pretty violent. You justify beating the crap out of him for cheating even if you aren't the injured party:

I'd like to think if a bloke cheated on a friend of mine I'd knock him out.

I wonder, do you feel the same about him (or one of his male friends) beating the crap out of her if she cheated?

 

[Epona]

predicting evidence does not disprove it. I agree with most of what you say, but getting an INB4 on an argument does not make it irrelevant. so WHY is the 'amazingathiest' a 'fucking idiot'?

He makes badly reasoned arguments which he presents by yelling at the camera like a douchebag. He projects the attitudes of a small minority onto an entire group. He acts as though men are somehow being repressed by women, all the while ignoring the fact that these attitudes are being perpetuated by men. For example, regaring the rape case, for every comment in which women were supposedly claiming it was "empowering", I encountered at least ten facetious comments by men saying that they'd like for that to happen to them. Violence against men by women just isn't being taken seriously by other men.

He also makes the common, idiotic error of suggesting that feminism is about female dominion, when in reality it is about equality. Feminists are not ignoring the issue of women committing violence against men. Feminists are saying that this is disgusting and it has to stop. They're saying that we need to abondon the perception of the weak, innocent girl and accept that regardless of gender everyone is human, and humans are capable of committing atrocities. But for some reason people are wedded to the idea that feminists want revenge on men or something. He's also fat and generally unlikeable.

I don't think many people still believe that the feminist movement is about equality. That ship has sailed.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Wow, talk about overreacting. For a guy who allegedly cheated on his girlfriend, I respect him for staying quiet and not retaliating. Cheating, while immoral, isn't illegal, so this guy will be fine. Nothing in his behavior on the train suggests he is a violent person, so I'm willing to guess that he probably wasn't the abusive one in the couple anyways.

Jesus Christ lady, you've got some issues to work out.

 

[Ickorus]

That guy showed way more restraint than I would have been able to, I think I could have held out through the slaps to the back of the head but as soon as she started punching and kicking i'd have probably knocked her on her ass.

 

[Actual]

You sound pretty violent. You justify beating the crap out of him for cheating even if you aren't the injured party:

I'd like to think if a bloke cheated on a friend of mine I'd knock him out.

I wonder, do you feel the same about him (or one of his male friends) beating the crap out of her if she cheated?

I wouldn't say I'm a violent person. Normally I'm much more of the opinion that legal solutions should be used rather than violent ones. Cheating is an odd case as it's one of the most heinous things a person can do, worse than many crimes (theft for example). However there is no legal punishment for such an immoral act.

That lack of justice frustrates me and I suppose that frustration leads me and many others to believe that cheating justifies violence.

A woman who cheats deserves a beating too, though I wouldn't actually condone it, I'd understand if a female friend of mine wanted to hurt a woman who cheated on me. Male on female violence just isn't sporting however. The don't hit girls unless you really have to rule for men exists for a good reason.

 

[manic_depressive13]

I don't think many people still believe that the feminist movement is about equality. That ship has sailed.

I don't care if they believe it. Dictionary definitions aren't faith based. I can call myself communist and then announce that I support a free market economy. That doesn't mean that the definition of communism has changed. That just means that I'm an idiot who doesn't know the meaning of communism, and anyone who believes I am actually in support of communism is equally guilty of ignorance. Similarly, any psycho lady can call herself a feminist, but if she doesn't support full equality, she isn't. It's up to you to be able to recognise that.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Its not so much this one video, but rather a greater social phenomena that causes this debate. The place equal rights comes in is exactly that she WON'T get the same legal punishments that a man would. By and large the western world gives women shorter punishments, in nicer facilities and more frequent conditional sentences. In fact Britain is currently looking at eliminating womens prisons all together.
We also have a tendency to justify female violence. IE "well he cheated." even when there is no evidence to support it.
Its also an equal rights issue directly because of the stark contrast of how this would have been handled had it been a woman assaulted by a man. Namely No one would have been laughing. We are simply better human beings when women are being harmed.
Its especially a rights issue when governments impose laws that demand that, in the event of domestic violence, the man be arrested. Essentially criminalizing BEING ASSAULTED. Many European countries and US states have laws specifically like that and these laws have been lobbied for by feminists.
Its also an equality issue that despite suffering 40-45% of all domestic violence injuries and are victims of approximately 70% of all nonreciprocal partner violence men in the states have a whopping 0% access to state funded domestic violence programs.
This is just another stark reminder of a very serious issue and people have a right to be angry.

I don't think anyone here has seriously defended her violence.
Don't use the word feminist as a broad umbrella term, it isn't one.

I already said the people on the train should have stopped her but that isn't an equal rights issue that's a side-effect of a societal belief system.

Of course it's a serious issue and, unfortunately, very few people who complain about it are willing to actively do something about it. The sad truth of it is most people are out to fight their own battles, be it Civil Rights groups, religious groups or feminists alike. The problem is gender roles and stereotypes are so ingrained in society it's very difficult to change them.
I do my best to make my voice heard for equal rights for women and, to be very honest, I'm sick of the defense that women have to take a punch in the face to even have a chance to get them. We've taken more than that at this point. Of course there are inequalities that effect men, and while it's wrong, I sometimes find it difficult to want to actively help the very people who tell me that I'm a hypocrite feminist ***** without knowing any of my actual opinions. And before someone attacks me for this, I don't mean men as a whole, I mean those who have the previously stated argument.

 

[boag]

The dude isnt showing self control out of some form of Chivalry, the dude is showing self control because of Guilt.

He cheated on her, and the only way she found to deal with her frustration and anger was to beat the crap out of him. Was it smart? No. Was it rational? No. Was it even Justified? nope.

But seriously what course of action did she have left?

there is no legislation available to protect people in this position.

BS, he was showing restraint because he knew people were watching and if he retaliated he'd probably have been the one in cuffs.


You ask what legislation is available for people in her position? Why should there be, cheating in a relationship isn't a legal matter, nor should it be. All she can do is scream at him and break up. Like a normal person. There's no excuse for violence and the dumb ***** deserves jail time.

I do believe cheating is a form of emotional abuse.

You cant say that devoting yourself to a commited relationship, isnt damaging.

***READ***, I am not condoning her acts, I am merely pointing out the fact that people can get away with cheating without any form of punishment.

So, would you be raising this argument if HE beat the crap out of HER for cheating? Would you be saying "What other option did HE have?"

Yes, yes I would.

 

[Epona]

You sound pretty violent. You justify beating the crap out of him for cheating even if you aren't the injured party:

I'd like to think if a bloke cheated on a friend of mine I'd knock him out.

I wonder, do you feel the same about him (or one of his male friends) beating the crap out of her if she cheated?

I wouldn't say I'm a violent person. Normally I'm much more of the opinion that legal solutions should be used rather than violent ones. Cheating is an odd case as it's one of the most heinous things a person can do, worse than many crimes (theft for example). However there is no legal punishment for such an immoral act.

That lack of justice frustrates me and I suppose that frustration leads me and many others to believe that cheating justifies violence.

A woman who cheats deserves a beating too, though I wouldn't actually condone it, I'd understand if a female friend of mine wanted to hurt a woman who cheated on me. Male on female violence just isn't sporting however. The don't hit girls unless you really have to rule for men exists for a good reason.

Sexist BS, you clearly don't believe in equality.

No, cheating should not be a crime.

 

[nixonsnow]

I was initially neutral on what she was doing, since I could see a scenario where I would cheer what happened to that guy. Then she started acting belligerent with the police and it became apparent this is probably more of a problem with her.

That's like saying you would cheer on a guy beating a girl for cheating on him, since that was all the information we had. It's an identical scenario.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Cheating is an odd case as it's one of the most heinous things a person can do, worse than many crimes (theft for example). However there is no legal punishment for such an immoral act.

That lack of justice frustrates me and I suppose that frustration leads me and many others to believe that cheating justifies violence.

What? No. I hate that I'm being put in the situation of DEFENDING CHEATING, since I've been cheated on, and I've never cheated, and I know it sucks, but this is ridiculous. No, it is NOT "one of the most heinous things a person can do". There's no legal punishment for it because it does not DESERVE a legal punishment. There are no laws saying your partner needs to stay with you, or be considerate of your feelings. Relationships are messy, and there is always an element of emotional risk involved. That's part of life.

 

[boag]

The dude isnt showing self control out of some form of Chivalry, the dude is showing self control because of Guilt.

He cheated on her, and the only way she found to deal with her frustration and anger was to beat the crap out of him. Was it smart? No. Was it rational? No. Was it even Justified? nope.

But seriously what course of action did she have left?

there is no legislation available to protect people in this position.

Hahaha...what? What the...what?

Okay...

#1. Don't hypothesize as to why person X is doing action Y. That's ridiculous. You don't know.
#2. Even if you did know, and even if he did cheat on her, since when does cheating = beating?

Cheating is a rotten thing to do. You are justified in being upset. Maybe even justified in some screaming, and Hard Words. Certainly justified in ending the relationship. You are not, however, justified in hailing blows down on the cheater's head. No matter how tiny and feminine your fists are. Hitting is Not Okay.

And really, you don't need to be "protected" from having a significant other cheat on you. Cheating is not illegal. Physical abuse is.

I am not justifying her actions, please read my post, I am simply pointing out that there is no legal recourse to take when infidelity is an issue.

I am not hypothesizing actions either, the video is labeled as such, I am simply making an observation with the evidence given.