I absolutely believe it should. It's silly how there are little things that can get you jail time (can't think of any, I'm sure someone will come up with one.) but emotionally scarring a person, possibly for life, I fine.boag said:
Female brutality - NOW WITH VIDEO!!!
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That crazy youtube video was done by people who happen to be teaching the SCUM manifesto to highschool students.BloatedGuppy said:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpelle%2Bbilling%2Bscum%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D695%26bih%3D835%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.ca&sl=sv&u=http://www.stockholmsfria.nu/artikel/90374
The problem with this is that it can either be satire, or it can be the beliefs of a homicidal woman, IF however it is both than all we are really doing is laughing at death threats that a woman felt entitled to carry out.
This is "art" that actively teaches female superiority and calls for violent death to anyone who happens to have "the birth defect" of being male.
What I find particularly sad about this is that the only people who really care that, what if applied to any other race or gender, could only be called hate speech are people who you disregard as radicals.
I usually dont post studies unless i'm making a claim that specifically opposes the person im quoting, i'm sure you know from past experience that all you need to do is ask, i also know that i have posted these studies previously:BloatedGuppy said:
The problem with disregarding studies is that you can do it to one or two, but when there is this much peer reviewed data with results this similar its a lot harder to argue.BRex21 said:
I would say its possible that I have a confirmation bias, however, when I read that there is a study done that states X I look for the actual study, and personally assess the data, sampling and methodology. I often encourage others to do the same, but find they almost never do.BloatedGuppy said:
I do however tend to attack feminism because,and this is where we always disagree, I see the the unfettered mix of feminism and fear as a cash cow to be its prevalent use and the only way to do that is to demonize men and make them worth fearing. I see your average feminist as a sheep who follows these trends as they are a fad, these people are dangerous as they have the ability to vote for such things as the VAWA that is trying to take away the legal protections and basic civil rights of the American male. For this reason I generally don't think i am arguing men are the bigger victims but rather the forgotten victims.
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Very congenial response, I appreciate that.BRex21 said:Also:
Also, that's awesome. And I play a lot of L4D, and when I'm playing the original cast I'm always Bill. I can't believe I didn't pick up on that.
I am interested in your opinion, would you advocate the guy in the OP vid defending himself? Not out right punching, but pushing her away etc. until he can get off the train or get help from authorities?Colour-Scientist said:
If you had already stated your stand I'm sorry for making you repeat yourself. The thread was too long and I did not have time to read through it.
Watched it again, and it still seems to me that she is just flailing at him, maybe a bruise from one of the kicks but hardly life threatening.NiGHTSJOD said:
It's one-thirty A.M. here, and I nearly fell off my seat with tears in my eyes. This is simply epic.Valagetti said:
My thoughts exactly. Though most people only see it as "You want to hit a woman." -_-ManThatYouFear said:
OT: I can understand she would mad that she was cheated on, but that was a way too much. On a public train no less. I am not really sure what to say other than, she clearly acted on impulse or just has no temper control at all. Judging how much she was resisting arrest, I am assuming it was the latter.
I live by a simple rule. You hit me, I hit you back.
that's it. I don't care if your male, female, black, white, weaker, stronger whatever. I don't hit people when without cause, and I expect to be treated the same. No one has the right to hit me, and that is all there is to it.
You hit me, I hit you,fair?
that's it. I don't care if your male, female, black, white, weaker, stronger whatever. I don't hit people when without cause, and I expect to be treated the same. No one has the right to hit me, and that is all there is to it.
You hit me, I hit you,fair?
I will say that mobile phones with video recording are a godsend for cops thesedays. Evidence like this has helped many a victim of an assault where in the past the outcome of "he said, she said" would almost never be in the guy's favour, unfortunatly.
So, did you denounce every wife beater, every man claiming women should be raped, every single sexist? No?`Well, by your logic, that means men agree with them and can all be judged by it.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
This is why your argument is ludicrous and why nobody in their right mind does this. No, you do not need to denounce every crappy man, and feminists do not need to denounce every crappy feminist. The idea is nonsense.
If you actually want equality, you cannot hate feminism (which is simply the ideal that women should have the same rights as men - hating this idea is not compatible to wanting equality), and you would realize that equality has not been attained. Not by a long shot.
Absolutely not world wide, not in europe (although the scandinavian countries are pretty close) and not in the US.
Equality does not mean "men are better off than women, just not as much better off than 30 years ago". Equality means that women get the same money for the same work. Equality means that women have the same chance to get a job with the same qualification (and if you whine about quotas: Quotas are actually a funny thing, because the privileged group tends to see them as unjust, when all they do is work against a hiring bias. In fact, there are many feminists that argue for a male quota among teachers. Because, see, all a quota does is making an employer equal out their employees when two employees have the same qualification. There is factually no quota anywhere that has ever made a company take an unqualified woman over a qualified male. The decision is always between roughly equally qualified employés. The fun part is that often a company will claim they "had" to hire a "less qualified" woman to a complaining male would-be-employée, because that gets the complainer of their back. This is important for a company, because then, the possible employer might try again when they need to hire someone again. Companies like to keep their options open. Yes, this is what companies really do, I've actually been told to do this by my superiors for these reasons. Isn't even a secret. Lots of men are quick to blame it all on women).
Equality means that courts do not automatically think a 12 year old girl is at fault for being raped by 18 adult men for "dressing provocatively". Equality means that men and women share work, not that most work at home, at taking care of children, is left to women.
Equality means that people (but especially women, statistically) are not constantly sexually harassed. Equality means all that and more.
Take this case. This case proves that equality has not been attained, true. The reason that woman-on-male violence is somewhat ignored is, funny enough, proof of this. It's based on sexist attitudes against women. In this specific case, they just happen to, for a change, negatively affect men as well.
And this is why we need feminism. If feminism would be successful and actual equality be reached, then male-on-female violence (which, as every study and statistic shows is about five timesa as common) would be considered as bad as female-on-male violence, because neither gender is considered property of the other gender, and both are considered equally valuable.
To most people that aren't radically anti-feminist, they don't intersect.
The only reason some people think "feminism" is bad is because they cling to the advantages men still have, and do not want to give them up. Feminism is seen as an attack on these advantages.
It's pretty much like fanboys defending the "right" of their class to be overpowered at this point. They have come to believe that it is natural for their class to have overpowered traits, so everyone who wants to balance things out is considered evil, mean, and oppressive.
Honestly, this thread reminds me so much of Warcraft class discussions, it's not even funny. People attack feminism the same way they attack players of a class that wants to balance things out, using the same ridiculous, nonsensical arguments. It's a gaming site, so that's to be expected, but it's still somewhat hilarious to notice.
Equality means that you lose privileges. Sorry.
I'm more pissed at the people not trying to separate them to be honest. And while I commend the dude for not doing anything back that's only because I don't want to see him in trouble. In a perfect world he would have been able to subdue her if no one else was going to do anything.
That guy has a commendable about of self restraint, I would have K.O'd that ***** as soon as she spat, the hitting I could take but the spit would push me over the edge.
"The guy was cheating, so he deserved a slap. But she went to far"
Reverse the genders and suddenly the guy has no justification, a bit unfair isn't it?. I'm not going to invoke feminism into this, as it has little to do with it and more to do with the fact both genders have accepted stereotypes that are unfair.
Reverse the genders and suddenly the guy has no justification, a bit unfair isn't it?. I'm not going to invoke feminism into this, as it has little to do with it and more to do with the fact both genders have accepted stereotypes that are unfair.