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[MiracleOfSound]

What you're doing is the equivalent of me calling a ten year old kid "old". The stance that any games made before this gen is "Old" is the stance of preteen failure-children who know little about the gaming hobby, and don't care to know either.

'Preteen failure children'? Really?

So because someone is young and not vastly knowledgeable about the history of a medium that has been greatly advanced in its accessibility and popularity in recent years, they are a failure?

That's like calling a Caravaggio fan a failure because they don't have a desire to learn about Giotto.

You need to lighten up and be more accepting of people.

As for the petty semantics we were arguing about, I stand by what I already said twice. Something being 'old' is only relative to the person in question.

 

[SimuLord]

East of Goodsprings, south of Quarry Junction---you know the place with the Radscorpions? Well, I was taking care of the scorps with no great difficulty (Hunting Rifle + .308 JSP from Hand Loader perk + Entomologist + Rank 3 Bug Stomper = dead Radscorpions)---when a FUCKING DEATHCLAW emerged out of the Abandoned Shack (?!) and proceeded to ruin my shit faster than you could say "HOLY FUCK A DEATHCLAW".

Oh, there are worse fates. How is it when you find a Cazador, seconds later an entire swarm of Cazzies is busy fucking your face off? And the damn things are armored to hell and back, too...

Per The Vault, Cazzies are unarmored (DT=0), so a good SMG and enough ammo are all you need. That said, I hate those fuckers with an all-consuming passion because the fucking screech they make when they attack makes me jump out of my fucking skin and drop large quantities of F-bombs on forums.

Really? The only things I had that worked on them until I got some insane armor and weapons were the grenadegun and the Caravaneer Shotgun preorders I crowbarred into the game.

A Caz has 200 HP (the Young Cazador has 100) and a DT of 0. Therefore, a bit of sustained fire with even something as simple as a 10mm SMG (11 bullets with a Caz, 6 with a Young Caz, achievable in VATS if you've got the stones to let them get close enough, not that you have much of a choice) will kill them. Still, bring Antivenom or Stimpaks (or Desert Salad) to offset the poison effect.

Note also that a Caz does 70 base damage (45 for a Young Caz), so the DT of your own armor matters a LOT.

(now, fighting Deathclaws, on the other hand...my best advice for that is "don't."

You think Fallout 3/Fallout: New Vegas Deathclaws are hard? Try Enclave Soldiers from Fallout 2. An encounter against them is touch and go even with a character in the mid-twenties levels with Advanced Power Armour and a Gauss Rifle - probably because they're packing Gauss Pistols and Pulse Pistols themselves.

As for a game moment which frustrated me, I think I'll have to nominate some of the missions in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare on Hardened or Veteran. It wasn't the difficulty of the game which frustrated me - I'd already beaten Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis by this stage. However, at least Operation Flashpoint gave me the opportunity to try a different approach each time, instead of sticking me into a very linear spot in the game where I was pretty much doomed to repeat the same thing over and over. I don't mind when I do badly at a game because of my own stupidity, but when the game forces me into making tactical choices that I wouldn't make myself, that's when I get annoyed. See the Ferris Wheel part of the Pripyat missions, or the retrieval of the helicopter pilot.

Fallout 3 Deathclaws are pushovers, but in New Vegas they're powered up to the point where they can ruin your shit in about two hits even for a high level character.

 

[Aiden_the-Joker1]

Call of duty: World at War on veteran difficulty. Oh my god what is with the sniper accurate grenade spamming, I was once surrounded by literally twelve grenades. Being killed by a single pistol shot. Sniper insta-kill accuracy from a machine gun on the other side of the map. All the enemies target you only although I wouldn't blame them for not thinking Sgt. Roebuck was a threat when at several points I saw him shooting the wall. Or how enemies that are being attacked by allies still shoot me instead of the guy ramming a knife down their throat.Or the constantly re-spawning enemies at a point when you can't advance because there are three snipers who will only come out and shoot you when you advance. Gah it frustrated me so fucking much and yet I fought through it on veteran level. Twice actually as I was near the end when my brother deleted my save file. But the second time I did it.

 

[Oro44]

Also New Vegas. Forgetting to save, dying, then getting knocked back an hour of gameplay.

 

[Les Awesome]

Sly Raccoon 1, the crocodile-thing-voodoo-*****.
The entire fight is pretty much just QTE and it's a long fight. No continue points or nothing.

Due to my low patience I failed miserbly over and over again until I felt the rage pounding in my veins. I eventually got the boss down, but I couldn't force myself to play anymore that night. I hate QTE's!

its funny cos thats strangely my favorite part in the whole game

OT: Zeus in GoW3 that cheap ass F****R doesn't die and the game
keeps asking me do you want to go to easy mode and to make things
worse i really hated the ending so it was a really disappointing way to end the trilogy

 

[Chibz]

'Preteen failure children'? Really?

So because someone is young and not vastly knowledgeable about the history of a medium that has been greatly advanced in its accessibility and popularity in recent years, they are a failure?

That's like calling a Caravaggio fan a failure because they don't have a desire to learn about Giotto.

You need to lighten up and be more accepting of people.

As for the petty semantics we were arguing about, I stand by what I already said twice. Something being 'old' is only relative to the person in question.

I'm saying they're failures as people who partake in the hobby because they are wilfully ignorant about it.

Using your example, it's like a Caravaggio fan who claims to enjoy art having no idea who Giotto is. And then claiming that Caravaggio is "The bestest italian artist evar!" without knowing anything about the topic. That's a failure kid. Someone who knows nothing, but doesn't know how massively ignorant on a topic they are.

 

[Oro44]

Ever notice that the most argumentative people have anime avatars?

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

'Preteen failure children'? Really?

So because someone is young and not vastly knowledgeable about the history of a medium that has been greatly advanced in its accessibility and popularity in recent years, they are a failure?

That's like calling a Caravaggio fan a failure because they don't have a desire to learn about Giotto.

You need to lighten up and be more accepting of people.

As for the petty semantics we were arguing about, I stand by what I already said twice. Something being 'old' is only relative to the person in question.

I'm saying they're failures as people who partake in the hobby because they are wilfully ignorant about it.

Using your example, it's like a Caravaggio fan who claims to enjoy art having no idea who Giotto is. And then claiming that Caravaggio is "The bestest italian artist evar!" without knowing anything about the topic. That's a failure kid. Someone who knows nothing, but doesn't know how massively ignorant on a topic they are.

You do realize that the PS2 turns 11 this year, right? I agree that 5 years isn't old per se, but when it comes to electronics, 11 years is an eternity. I'm old enough to remember being excited for the system launch, and this year makes it officially more than half as old as I am. I'd say it's perfectly legitimate for a teenager, who could have been born up to 8 years into the system's run at this point, to consider the system "old," even if it is only from last gen. For that matter, the only reason it's not from two generations ago is this gen has lasted unusually long; all of the other hardware generations so far have had successors ready to be launched at this point, if not already launched.

Edit:

Ever notice that the most argumentative people have anime avatars?

I resent that

 

[Chibz]

You do realize that the PS2 turns 11 this year, right? I agree that 5 years isn't old per se, but when it comes to electronics, 11 years is an eternity. I'm old enough to remember being excited for the system launch, and this year makes it officially more than half as old as I am. I'd say it's perfectly legitimate for a teenager, who could have been born up to 8 years into the system's run at this point, to consider the system "old," even if it is only from last gen. For that matter, the only reason it's not from two generations ago is this gen has lasted unusually long; all of the other hardware generations so far have had successors ready to be launched at this point, if not already launched.

I'm personally highly hesitant to call anything this gen or last old. In fact, N64/PS1 games are neither here nor there. I judge them by individual release dates.

Most people can't really see past the very short term. In the big picture, these games I'm referring to aren't really very old. Video gaming has a (very rich) 30+ year old history. What would this make NES games? Ancient?

As for this gen lasting longer, I honestly don't see why I could ever need a more powerful system than the 360 or PS3.

In fact, that logic makes the NES one of these...

 

[thenumberthirteen]

Only one game drives me to curse. SWAT 4. It's a great game, but you always die really cheaply. It's supposed to be "Realistic" so you can only get shot twice if you're lucky, and the bad guys love to hide out and shoot you in the back. Also your team loves to throw flash bang grenades in your face. AND they always take the shortest route to get to you so they regularly just walk into rooms of bad guys and get killed. Also apparently the police force doesn't look kindly on you sneaking up on armed bad guys and shooting them silently. You have to tell them they're under arrest and let them try and shoot you first.

Never have I raged so much at a game as with SWAT 4.

"You're in my way sir" SHUT THE HELL UP REYNOLDS BEFORE I TAZER YOU IN THE FACE!!!

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

In fact, that logic makes the NES one of these...

that's because it is -- it was only a third gen system, with the first being Pong, and the second being the Atari 2600 era. Face it, man, you're getting old.

Also, if you're looking at the big picture, the current gen will be a dinosaur itself one of these days. 30 years -- actually closer to 40 now -- is not a whole lot of time on the grand scale, meaning that even now we're in the early stages, by your logic. However, we're talking about electronics. Try posting about a 10 year old computer in a modern PC forum, asking why you can't run modern games on it. You'll get laughed off the forum, because a ten year old computer is a dinosaur. When you start hitting 20 it's more like the reptiles that went extinct before the dinosaurs, and at 40 or more, we're hitting the bacteria that rose from the primordial soup.

 

[DanielBrown]

Sly Raccoon 1, the crocodile-thing-voodoo-*****.
The entire fight is pretty much just QTE and it's a long fight. No continue points or nothing.

Due to my low patience I failed miserbly over and over again until I felt the rage pounding in my veins. I eventually got the boss down, but I couldn't force myself to play anymore that night. I hate QTE's!

its funny cos thats strangely my favorite part in the whole game

OT: Zeus in GoW3 that cheap ass F****R doesn't die and the game
keeps asking me do you want to go to easy mode and to make things
worse i really hated the ending so it was a really disappointing way to end the trilogy

You're crazy, mon!

As for the Zeus thing, there is a cheap way of killing him.

Spoiler

Take the weapon given to you by Hephestos and spam L1+Square(or Circle >.<) after positioning yourself close to Gaias heart. While spamming that attack you'll be pretty much constantly in the air, so neither Zeus or his clones can get to you and you'll get all the life from Gaia. Simple and dull as hell.

 

[Chibz]

that's because it is -- it was only a third gen system, with the first being Pong, and the second being the Atari 2600 era. Face it, man, you're getting old.

Also, if you're looking at the big picture, the current gen will be a dinosaur itself one of these days. 30 years -- actually closer to 40 now -- is not a whole lot of time on the grand scale, meaning that even now we're in the early stages, by your logic. However, we're talking about electronics. Try posting about a 10 year old computer in a modern PC forum, asking why you can't run modern games on it. You'll get laughed off the forum, because a ten year old computer is a dinosaur. When you start hitting 20 it's more like the reptiles that went extinct before the dinosaurs, and at 40 or more, we're hitting the bacteria that rose from the primordial soup.

Except we're not talking about PCs in the purest sense. We're talking about systems whose merit lies not in how relatively powerful the unit is, but in the enjoyability of the software. A console (Or for that matter, well made game) is never obsolete.

What pisses me off more than anything is that the ignorant shitheads are willfully ignorant of their hobby's past. And ignoring where it came from is never a good idea.

 

[Chibz]

I find it amusing, personally, that most people who have some idea of the history of computer games don't know just how old computer gaming actually is - almost sixty years old, if you're judging it by the first complete computer game. Yes, Nim and various simulations of card games count as computer games. And no, Pong isn't even all that significant outside of its arcade contexts.

Yes, I'm aware of systems before the atari. Before the arcade scene even. Technically the first games ever made were made using radar equipment. Tennis for Two anyone? Very important stuff there. I think it was from the late 50's.

But for simplicity's sake I'm talking about the more modern idea of a video game, which was all but created by the 2600 & arcade scene.

 

[ultrachicken]

Halo: Reach on legendary makes my eyeballs explode.

Modern Warfare 2's online component made me, and my brother, throw the controller at the floor so hard that it no longer works quite properly.

Alpha Protocol's boss battles made me rage because I was playing a stealth character. I tried playing the game as an assault rifle rambo guy, but I couldn't see the game as anything other than a shitty third person shooter when I did that.

There are many more to add to this list, and I blame hormones for my constant rage.

 

[MrShowerHead]

Little Rocket Man, helicopter chase scene.

I broke my brother's chair from rage by punching it. Didn't even hurt. I guess blind rage does that to you.

 

[Sir Seagull]

Mario Kart.
So much.

I was once playing vs with a friend on MK DS: 1st place on rainbow road, slaughtering everybody by like three quarters of a lap - feelin' gewd. All of a sudden: SPINY! RED! RED! RED! GODDAMN RED! (yes four reds in a row) SPINY! LIGHTNING! Proceeded to come third and subsequently rage.