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[PurplePonyArcade]

Oh I know, I just wanted to make a fighting thread here to.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Last post was suppose to be a proper reply to Glongpre but I forgot to hit the quote button.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Err... Don't know what to say. I kind of like fighting games, but I'm a masher and I'm only into couch play/arcade ladder.
The best so far is Melty Blood. I like it because it's fast.
Second favorite is DOA5, mostly because it is interesting to mash.
Good ones are MK9, Injustice, Skull Girls.
Could not get into Blaz Blue, feels too slow, KOF XIII because of the team bullshit, SFxT because of the gem bullshit.

In BB speed vastly varies based on who you pick. Chars like Tager and Hakumen are slow defensive types while chars like Taokaka or Bang are agile chars with multiple airdashes like in melty and so on.

Exactly, Blazblue I am fond of in general, but back when it was my go to "new" game because Street Fighter IV was too slow, Soul Calibur IV too boring and guest character wank, and Marvel 3 being too silly. I sort of like the latter now and admittedly liked Ultra Street Fighter IV more than I want to admit even if I like ST, 3S, and V a lot more.
I always wanted to get into Guilty Gear but had a hard time attaching myself to it. I ended up just liking the feel of Blazblue a lot more and still do even though im behind on the games.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Well, theres nothing good right now, and there is no specific thing to discuss. Ive been itching for a fighting game to play, but Street Fighter V is garbage, Tekken 7 is taking forever, and Ive done most everything in Mortal Kombat X.

You can try Guilty Gear, Blazblue and/or new King of Fighters XIV. I've seen you expresing your dislike for Anime Fighters, so know that KoF is not it. Think of it as more complex, faster Street Fighter, where you must learn at least 3 characters. Also, it has smaller thimgs that difirentiate it from SF, like many types of jumps, running instead of dashing and characters having a lot of command normals. Heck, this new character Nelson (?) has only 2 specials and dozens of command normals.

Also, considering how varied (most) characters are, I am sure you'll find those three that you'll like.

I have KoF 13 on Steam, but I cannot get into it. But its not because of why I don't like "anime" ones. I just cant find my groove in it. If I could figure out which characters I would like, I could probably get really into it, but there is a lot and its not clear every character's style. Any attempt to play online just gets me destroyed, and playing against NPCs isn't always the best for learning how the game works. If Guilty Gear goes on sale on Steam, I will likely try it out. BlazBlue though...I don't like what Ive played so far.

Getting destroyed online is part of the experience of getting better at fighting games. Learning what you did wrong and talking to better players about it. That said I do think its better to learn from a friend, or someone at a tournament or arcade because you can look face to face after the battle or at least talk while still playing and they can teach you a lot about what you did wrong and such. Technically you can still do that online, but not with random opponents and such. With that all you can do is watch replays for games that have that function, though KOF XIII's replay function has issues.
There appears to be a sale on Blazblue games on Steam right now for those interested.
As far as KOF or anything else, I am here to help if you or anyone else needs it.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Well, theres nothing good right now, and there is no specific thing to discuss. Ive been itching for a fighting game to play, but Street Fighter V is garbage, Tekken 7 is taking forever, and Ive done most everything in Mortal Kombat X.

Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator is all you need. Most beautiful and hype figter ever.

I never seem to enjoy anime fighting games. Admittedly, Ive never played Guilty Gear before, but the ones I have played tend to be more about spectacle, than actual gameplay depth.

Funny because spectacle over depth is exactly why I am not a fan of NRS fighting games. To each world warrior her own though and I encourage different tastes and tolerance of such. I've had negative interest toward Mortal Kombat X since the game came out, but I admit I had a lot of fun during its online beta. I've always hated the term "anime fighter" because it goes in several different directions of what you could mean. Generally speaking though I do understand its the umbrella term for airdasher games yes, but I still do not like it. I don't know to me a fighting game is a fighting game, even with less conforming ones like Smash Bros but again I understand that stuff is subjective and a difference in opinion is fine.

One opinion between us that is definitely NOT a difference but a similarity is that the home version of Tekken 7 is taking too damn long to come out!

 

[Saelune]

Well, theres nothing good right now, and there is no specific thing to discuss. Ive been itching for a fighting game to play, but Street Fighter V is garbage, Tekken 7 is taking forever, and Ive done most everything in Mortal Kombat X.

You can try Guilty Gear, Blazblue and/or new King of Fighters XIV. I've seen you expresing your dislike for Anime Fighters, so know that KoF is not it. Think of it as more complex, faster Street Fighter, where you must learn at least 3 characters. Also, it has smaller thimgs that difirentiate it from SF, like many types of jumps, running instead of dashing and characters having a lot of command normals. Heck, this new character Nelson (?) has only 2 specials and dozens of command normals.

Also, considering how varied (most) characters are, I am sure you'll find those three that you'll like.

I have KoF 13 on Steam, but I cannot get into it. But its not because of why I don't like "anime" ones. I just cant find my groove in it. If I could figure out which characters I would like, I could probably get really into it, but there is a lot and its not clear every character's style. Any attempt to play online just gets me destroyed, and playing against NPCs isn't always the best for learning how the game works. If Guilty Gear goes on sale on Steam, I will likely try it out. BlazBlue though...I don't like what Ive played so far.

Getting destroyed online is part of the experience of getting better at fighting games. Learning what you did wrong and talking to better players about it. That said I do think its better to learn from a friend, or someone at a tournament or arcade because you can look face to face after the battle or at least talk while still playing and they can teach you a lot about what you did wrong and such. Technically you can still do that online, but not with random opponents and such. With that all you can do is watch replays for games that have that function, though KOF XIII's replay function has issues.
There appears to be a sale on Blazblue games on Steam right now for those interested.
As far as KOF or anything else, I am here to help if you or anyone else needs it.

I find getting destroyed teaches you nothing. If I am just a punching bag, what do I learn? I need to be able to do something poorly first, and see the faults in my actions. Same with infinite combo things. Ive learned from failure and losing, but its because I had a basic idea of what was happening.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Well, theres nothing good right now, and there is no specific thing to discuss. Ive been itching for a fighting game to play, but Street Fighter V is garbage, Tekken 7 is taking forever, and Ive done most everything in Mortal Kombat X.

You can try Guilty Gear, Blazblue and/or new King of Fighters XIV. I've seen you expresing your dislike for Anime Fighters, so know that KoF is not it. Think of it as more complex, faster Street Fighter, where you must learn at least 3 characters. Also, it has smaller thimgs that difirentiate it from SF, like many types of jumps, running instead of dashing and characters having a lot of command normals. Heck, this new character Nelson (?) has only 2 specials and dozens of command normals.

Also, considering how varied (most) characters are, I am sure you'll find those three that you'll like.

I have KoF 13 on Steam, but I cannot get into it. But its not because of why I don't like "anime" ones. I just cant find my groove in it. If I could figure out which characters I would like, I could probably get really into it, but there is a lot and its not clear every character's style. Any attempt to play online just gets me destroyed, and playing against NPCs isn't always the best for learning how the game works. If Guilty Gear goes on sale on Steam, I will likely try it out. BlazBlue though...I don't like what Ive played so far.

Getting destroyed online is part of the experience of getting better at fighting games. Learning what you did wrong and talking to better players about it. That said I do think its better to learn from a friend, or someone at a tournament or arcade because you can look face to face after the battle or at least talk while still playing and they can teach you a lot about what you did wrong and such. Technically you can still do that online, but not with random opponents and such. With that all you can do is watch replays for games that have that function, though KOF XIII's replay function has issues.
There appears to be a sale on Blazblue games on Steam right now for those interested.
As far as KOF or anything else, I am here to help if you or anyone else needs it.

I find getting destroyed teaches you nothing. If I am just a punching bag, what do I learn? I need to be able to do something poorly first, and see the faults in my actions. Same with infinite combo things. Ive learned from failure and losing, but its because I had a basic idea of what was happening.

Point taken. This is what I meant by the importance of meeting other players and watching replays. Apologies if I did not make that clear prior as I may have gotten lost writing several responses.

 

[Paragon Fury]

I love DoA, Darkstalkers and Smash.

I never liked MK or Tekken. KoF, Soul Calibur, MvC and some of the other odds and ends were okay. Didn't care for VF.

Darkstalkers and SF I used to like. But Darkstalkers hasn't gotten a new game in ages (even though it really should, but Capcom doesn't want something to compete with SF) and I got tired of SF constant roster changes and rapid iterations literally every year. SFIV was basically perfect, with my favorites (Ibuki and Cody) and then a new one I really liked (Juri). But then Ibuki and Juri didn't make the cut for SF:V's release and got added months later, along with it not coming to Xbox One made me skip it.

I still play Smash, but I'm god-fucking-awful at it. Dead or Alive is and has been my main fighting game for some time and my favorite. It's also probably the one fighting game I'm even halfway decent at.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

I love DoA, Darkstalkers and Smash.

I never liked MK or Tekken. KoF, Soul Calibur, MvC and some of the other odds and ends were okay. Didn't care for VF.

Darkstalkers and SF I used to like. But Darkstalkers hasn't gotten a new game in ages (even though it really should, but Capcom doesn't want something to compete with SF) and I got tired of SF constant roster changes and rapid iterations literally every year. SFIV was basically perfect, with my favorites (Ibuki and Cody) and then a new one I really liked (Juri). But then Ibuki and Juri didn't make the cut for SF:V's release and got added months later, along with it not coming to Xbox One made me skip it.

I still play Smash, but I'm god-fucking-awful at it. Dead or Alive is and has been my main fighting game for some time and my favorite. It's also probably the one fighting game I'm even halfway decent at.

Darkstalkers? We might just get along. No new game? Yeah, I don't trust the Ono led team anymore to produce anything other than wank. Then again I like Street Fighter V weirdly enough, moving on. Street Fighter IV is anything by perfect to me, but I did have my fair share of fun with it. While its said that there will be no new game in the IP anytime soon we still have what we have and Vampire Savior is what I still regard as my best fighting game of all time.~

Godawful? Well being good at Melee is no easy task, I love then game and I am pretty bad myself. It takes a lot of practice that not many can muster, but it is an incredible game to watch and learn the competitive ropes of.
Smash 4 on the other hand is a much easier beast and strange in its own right, but good. I have had way more fun with that game than I initially thought. Ever tried Brawlhalla or Rivals Of Aether? Both are pretty good fighting games from that mold which I am told we now call "platform fighter" or something, whatever. They are both fun games. Brawlhalla being a free-to-play game with a dull artstyle and mostly simpler execution make it seem dumb at first. However its oddly a really good game that is both fun and feels more made for competitive than Smash 4. Rivals Of Aether is almost purely competitive made being Melee or Project M with easier execution and original characters with a few mechanic changes and it a ton of fun to play and learn.
Dead Or Alive 5 is weirdly good and the expansions to Last Round only made things better. Even if the DLC in that game is insane to say the least.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Err... Don't know what to say. I kind of like fighting games, but I'm a masher and I'm only into couch play/arcade ladder.
The best so far is Melty Blood. I like it because it's fast.
Second favorite is DOA5, mostly because it is interesting to mash.
Good ones are MK9, Injustice, Skull Girls.
Could not get into Blaz Blue, feels too slow, KOF XIII because of the team bullshit, SFxT because of the gem bullshit.

In BB speed vastly varies based on who you pick. Chars like Tager and Hakumen are slow defensive types while chars like Taokaka or Bang are agile chars with multiple airdashes like in melty and so on.

Exactly, Blazblue I am fond of in general, but back when it was my go to "new" game because Street Fighter IV was too slow, Soul Calibur IV too boring and guest character wank, and Marvel 3 being too silly. I sort of like the latter now and admittedly liked Ultra Street Fighter IV more than I want to admit even if I like ST, 3S, and V a lot more.
I always wanted to get into Guilty Gear but had a hard time attaching myself to it. I ended up just liking the feel of Blazblue a lot more and still do even though im behind on the games.

I have been a Bang main since CT and BB is the game I made the jump into the real fgc with, before that I was just a casual. I did get vanilla sf4 but ever since bb came out I never looked back. As for GG, I picked it up from my local community, as for a long time there was no netplay for it. Eventually they released AC on psn and revived it with Xrd though so now its pretty even.

I generally don't care for capcom games but random anime games like arcana heart or uniel are always fun to dabble with. UNIEL is kinda like anime KoF, and as close to that style of game I'll ever go.


Oh and I would generally avoid playin most fighters on PC if you wish to fight the good segment of the community. Ps3/4 is where its at. They tend to offer cross play between the consoles too.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Err... Don't know what to say. I kind of like fighting games, but I'm a masher and I'm only into couch play/arcade ladder.
The best so far is Melty Blood. I like it because it's fast.
Second favorite is DOA5, mostly because it is interesting to mash.
Good ones are MK9, Injustice, Skull Girls.
Could not get into Blaz Blue, feels too slow, KOF XIII because of the team bullshit, SFxT because of the gem bullshit.

In BB speed vastly varies based on who you pick. Chars like Tager and Hakumen are slow defensive types while chars like Taokaka or Bang are agile chars with multiple airdashes like in melty and so on.

Exactly, Blazblue I am fond of in general, but back when it was my go to "new" game because Street Fighter IV was too slow, Soul Calibur IV too boring and guest character wank, and Marvel 3 being too silly. I sort of like the latter now and admittedly liked Ultra Street Fighter IV more than I want to admit even if I like ST, 3S, and V a lot more.
I always wanted to get into Guilty Gear but had a hard time attaching myself to it. I ended up just liking the feel of Blazblue a lot more and still do even though im behind on the games.

I have been a Bang main since CT and BB is the game I made the jump into the real fgc with, before that I was just a casual. I did get vanilla sf4 but ever since bb came out I never looked back. As for GG, I picked it up from my local community, as for a long time there was no netplay for it. Eventually they released AC on psn and revived it with Xrd though so now its pretty even.

I generally don't care for capcom games but random anime games like arcana heart or uniel are always fun to dabble with. UNIEL is kinda like anime KoF, and as close to that style of game I'll ever go.


Oh and I would generally avoid playin most fighters on PC if you wish to fight the good segment of the community. Ps3/4 is where its at. They tend to offer cross play between the consoles too.

I have still moved to PC since we now thankfully live in an era where fighting games are on PC are a bit more common than usual, meaning at all. I've always been doing mostly Skullgirls lately and that community does seem a hint more active on PC.
It's also due to me being pretty uncomfortable with how consoles are right now. Though I will eventually get a Ps4. Either way I can't agree with you on avoiding PC. Ps3 is a great place for fighting games though and while its not my main platform anymore I am still fond of all the fighting games I have for mine. I have still been trying to get a few fighting titles for my Ps3 between actually finding and getting on an average check which isn't helped by the fact that I have also been looking at arcade boards and parts to go with what I already have.
Again to each their own, I tend to play every fighting game I get my hands on and of course I am no stranger to Capcom titles, one of my two favourite fighting games being one.
Now I have that vocal Bang theme stuck in my head..
The one character I played in Blazblue from the start to now is Nu and what a time for me to come back when she apparently just got nerfed from the top tier in the latest arcade edition of Central Fiction.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

When half the games aren't at all on the system and the other half are the old, obsolete versions nobody plays any more, I don't know how you can reccomend the pc unless you wish to say a game is better just for being on pc even if it's dead or only play melty and touhou hisou lol.

And yeah, I don't have a ps4 either. PS3 has cross play and all the games I play are on it and I use a sixaxis. No reason to bother learning a new controller.

Oh and Bang has two vocal themes, when CP came out they gave him a new song, sung by his voice actor. Super hype . Nu is fine, just not S tier. They consolidated her zoning with a new pronectie that stays on the screen until you let the button go and then fires, think Litchi deploying her staff, she can use it for all sorts of stuff. The nerfs were basically to her silly long combos. She could get what ammouts to free rapid cancels with gravity seed in cpe. Her zoning is actually stronger.

 

[aozgolo]

Fighting Games have always been kind of a "when I'm in the mood" genre, and that mood strikes rarely, overall I generally only ever play about 2 fighting games per console generation, and never seriously, I mostly stick to playing them vs. AI, and what I personally look for in a fighting game is generally scoffed at by competitive players.

Case in point, my favorite of all time was Dragonball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2 for PS2. I loved the huge roster of characters, destrucible environments, rather simple combo executions, and the special moves bar. It also featured one of my favorite things in fighting games, unlockable extras. I appreciate a story mode campaign as well, but really what keeps me playing is unlocking things, something I sadly see DLC killing off quite readily.

I also enjoyed the auto-battle system, I would set up a 5 v 5 tag team match and bet on the outcome, it was rather entertaining like watching fights on the show. What made this particularly enjoyable, and really worked out well in part to some RPG elements thrown in was that the roster was NOT balanced, and some characters were vastly more powerful than others, but it made for interesting tag team combos, and if you got skilled enough, nothing was more thrilling than taking down a super powerful foe with a weak character.

Now if I could just find a more modern fighting game that had tons of unlockable extras, a large and varied roster, and maybe even a campaign or RPG elements, and basically just an overall setup that accommodates solo play, I'd happily buy that game, but I am skeptical if any such game exists.

 

[Saelune]

Now if I could just find a more modern fighting game that had tons of unlockable extras, a large and varied roster, and maybe even a campaign or RPG elements, and basically just an overall setup that accommodates solo play, I'd happily buy that game, but I am skeptical if any such game exists.

Super Smash Bros Melee/Brawl.

 

[Glongpre]

Oh I know, I just wanted to make a fighting thread here to.

Yea, totally.

I think you should ask for it to get stickied, or get a new forum going, where individual games can be discussed and it is less likely to be buried amidst the multitude of general questions in the gaming discussion forum.

Bring about an evolution to the Escapist forums!

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Oh I know, I just wanted to make a fighting thread here to.

Yea, totally.

I think you should ask for it to get stickied, or get a new forum going, where individual games can be discussed and it is less likely to be buried amidst the multitude of general questions in the gaming discussion forum.

Bring about an evolution to the Escapist forums!

Point taken, but how would I get it stickied?

 

[Glongpre]

Point taken, but how would I get it stickied?

Haha, I actually don't know. Ask a mod?

I just thought it would be a good idea

 

[Lufia Erim]

Im currently playing Street fighter 5. The lack of content doesn't bother me. I usually never play through arcade mode and just play training mode and online matches. So not having all the extra fluff is no problem for me. I spent 100 hours at least playing this game and i enjoy the game for the most part. The initial problems with the server and ragequitters are what annoyed me the most and those have been resolved.

I played mostly R mika since release and have switch over to Ibuki since her release. Ibuki is just so much fun to play.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

When half the games aren't at all on the system and the other half are the old, obsolete versions nobody plays any more, I don't know how you can reccomend the pc unless you wish to say a game is better just for being on pc even if it's dead or only play melty and touhou hisou lol.

And yeah, I don't have a ps4 either. PS3 has cross play and all the games I play are on it and I use a sixaxis. No reason to bother learning a new controller.

Oh and Bang has two vocal themes, when CP came out they gave him a new song, sung by his voice actor. Super hype . Nu is fine, just not S tier. They consolidated her zoning with a new pronectie that stays on the screen until you let the button go and then fires, think Litchi deploying her staff, she can use it for all sorts of stuff. The nerfs were basically to her silly long combos. She could get what ammouts to free rapid cancels with gravity seed in cpe. Her zoning is actually stronger.

I recommend it simply for being the preferable platform of yours truly while at the same time pointing out that it is not a good idea to discourage any platform. Console is a bit better for just having the games, but PC can't be discounted in this day and age.
Well, Playstation anyway. The Xbox brand is not as strong with fighting games as it used to be and Nintendo less so and being all over the place. I actually think PC is much better than Xbox and Nintendo consoles at this point for fighting games even if Playstation has it be by number of fighting games available.
So her gravity seed is almost as good as it used to be prior to now? Wow, I really did miss out haha. I have not gotten used to her longer combos anyway having memorized all of her shorter/average stuff to the bone so I guess that is not so bad.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Im currently playing Street fighter 5. The lack of content doesn't bother me. I usually never play through arcade mode and just play training mode and online matches. So not having all the extra fluff is no problem for me. I spent 100 hours at least playing this game and i enjoy the game for the most part. The initial problems with the server and ragequitters are what annoyed me the most and those have been resolved.

I played mostly R mika since release and have switch over to Ibuki since her release. Ibuki is just so much fun to play.

If I can get my part issues settled I would love to play with you sometime. I dropped off after Guile due to PC issues and as a result have not tried Ikuki yet. Mad respect to you for being a Mika player.