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Brandon Galli said:
Has anyone played last blade 2 before?? Basically this vid covers how epic it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaBTzgP1LlA

I downloaded the game's remake on vita a few months ago. Never played the series before but it was a great game indeed. SNK have a lot of these gems that nobody knows. I still use its theme for my vita.
 

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Brandon Galli said:
Has anyone played last blade 2 before?? Basically this vid covers how epic it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaBTzgP1LlA
I have played a bit on PS4 and some on an emulator before that although I would rate my experience with the game as very very low. However I feel it is an excellent fighting game and imo quite possibly the most beautiful fighter ever made.

I believe that if this game had the street Fighter name on it then it would be held in higher regards than third strike.
 

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http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/20/arcana-heart-3-love-max-six-stars-appears-prefundia/
What a strange and interesting case. I do want Six Stars on PC but I have no idea what Prefundia is and the page will not load for me currently.
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJG2uM9WZMw


Here's a great rev 2 stream showing gameplay with the new chars and a bunch of news. Rev 2 is hitting arcades wednesday btw so more footage will start pouring in.
 

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Guilion said:
I wanna know how to git gud at Psychic Force 2012 :3
I did not even know they did a sequel. I was literally playing Psychic Force on PSX Saturday and while I like the idea its execution was a bit of a mess to be honest. Just looked up the sequel and just from the way they move it looks tighter as you would expect but no idea how it feel to play.

There is a Touhou game on the Japanese PSN that is as far as I can tell basically Psychic Force just (from what I have heard) much better.

Also played Battle Arena Toshiden and its still the fun mess of a game I remember one of the characters fell off the stage when doing her victory animation which was quite amusing.

After playing Bushido Blade again and a game I have never played before but had quite some fun with called Kengo: Master of Bushido I would really like someone to try and make a 3d one hit kill semi realistic weapon fighter again.
 

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Hey it is not easy to get good at an obscure game like that but if you love it do it. Show the world what that game can really do with high level play. I do not really know of any sources for it. Need to try it sometime but then I need to grab a Dreamcast sometime.
 

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tried chaos code a little, and got to say i'm pretty surprised how entertaining it is. seems like a combination of kof and aksys feel, with 3rd strike like choose some of your own move option.

I don't really have time to play anything or learn anything atm though, and don't know if it'll even be worth it, with games no one plays, unless it's one I really like.
 

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K-sha said:
tried chaos code a little, and got to say i'm pretty surprised how entertaining it is. seems like a combination of kof and aksys feel, with 3rd strike like choose some of your own move option.

I don't really have time to play anything or learn anything atm though, and don't know if it'll even be worth it, with games no one plays, unless it's one I really like.
Play it some more for a while and see how it feels after some time. Learn a few things if you can. If you like it you like it no matter how many people play it. :)
 

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So I just got Blazblue: Continuum Extend for Xbox One, since I don't own a PS4 or a Switch and therefore can't play Central Fiction and I have no idea WTF I'm doing.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
So I just got Blazblue: Continuum Extend for Xbox One, since I don't own a PS4 or a Switch and therefore can't play Central Fiction and I have no idea WTF I'm doing.
I would strongly recommend not playing anything other than CF since you will just have to unlearn half of what you learn here if you wish to get anywhere near competent at it.

I think some of them are out on pc too, not sure which ones, but in arcsys games you only ever wanna play the latest one since the older ones are obsolete. If you just wanna mess around and don't care about competing or playing against people who know how to play however, you should play the tutorial mode (fully) and then pick a single character and go and play their challenge modes after you have finished the tutorial. Once you are done with the challenges...well...you will want to buy CF and find other people and fight since fighting the AI in fighting games teaches you bad habits that don't work on humans foes. This is so because the AI reads your inputs and reacts at superhuman speeds while fighting games are designed to be played through predicting actions and countering them beforehand and not through superhuman instant reactions so when you fight the AI the way you think about the fight itself, as well as everything you do, is all wrong.
 

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Dreiko said:
Paragon Fury said:
So I just got Blazblue: Continuum Extend for Xbox One, since I don't own a PS4 or a Switch and therefore can't play Central Fiction and I have no idea WTF I'm doing.
I would strongly recommend not playing anything other than CF since you will just have to unlearn half of what you learn here if you wish to get anywhere near competent at it.

I think some of them are out on pc too, not sure which ones, but in arcsys games you only ever wanna play the latest one since the older ones are obsolete. If you just wanna mess around and don't care about competing or playing against people who know how to play however, you should play the tutorial mode (fully) and then pick a single character and go and play their challenge modes after you have finished the tutorial. Once you are done with the challenges...well...you will want to buy CF and find other people and fight since fighting the AI in fighting games teaches you bad habits that don't work on humans foes. This is so because the AI reads your inputs and reacts at superhuman speeds while fighting games are designed to be played through predicting actions and countering them beforehand and not through superhuman instant reactions so when you fight the AI the way you think about the fight itself, as well as everything you do, is all wrong.
Central Fiction isn't out on anything other than PS4 and the Switch (next month), so as far as Xbox One and PC are concerned CE is the newest version.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
Dreiko said:
Paragon Fury said:
So I just got Blazblue: Continuum Extend for Xbox One, since I don't own a PS4 or a Switch and therefore can't play Central Fiction and I have no idea WTF I'm doing.
I would strongly recommend not playing anything other than CF since you will just have to unlearn half of what you learn here if you wish to get anywhere near competent at it.

I think some of them are out on pc too, not sure which ones, but in arcsys games you only ever wanna play the latest one since the older ones are obsolete. If you just wanna mess around and don't care about competing or playing against people who know how to play however, you should play the tutorial mode (fully) and then pick a single character and go and play their challenge modes after you have finished the tutorial. Once you are done with the challenges...well...you will want to buy CF and find other people and fight since fighting the AI in fighting games teaches you bad habits that don't work on humans foes. This is so because the AI reads your inputs and reacts at superhuman speeds while fighting games are designed to be played through predicting actions and countering them beforehand and not through superhuman instant reactions so when you fight the AI the way you think about the fight itself, as well as everything you do, is all wrong.
Central Fiction isn't out on anything other than PS4 and the Switch (next month), so as far as Xbox One and PC are concerned CE is the newest version.
I'm actually playing it on my ps3, so there's that too. PS3 and PS4 have crossplay too, so you get both communities together.
 

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Dreiko said:
Paragon Fury said:
Dreiko said:
Paragon Fury said:
So I just got Blazblue: Continuum Extend for Xbox One, since I don't own a PS4 or a Switch and therefore can't play Central Fiction and I have no idea WTF I'm doing.
I would strongly recommend not playing anything other than CF since you will just have to unlearn half of what you learn here if you wish to get anywhere near competent at it.

I think some of them are out on pc too, not sure which ones, but in arcsys games you only ever wanna play the latest one since the older ones are obsolete. If you just wanna mess around and don't care about competing or playing against people who know how to play however, you should play the tutorial mode (fully) and then pick a single character and go and play their challenge modes after you have finished the tutorial. Once you are done with the challenges...well...you will want to buy CF and find other people and fight since fighting the AI in fighting games teaches you bad habits that don't work on humans foes. This is so because the AI reads your inputs and reacts at superhuman speeds while fighting games are designed to be played through predicting actions and countering them beforehand and not through superhuman instant reactions so when you fight the AI the way you think about the fight itself, as well as everything you do, is all wrong.
Central Fiction isn't out on anything other than PS4 and the Switch (next month), so as far as Xbox One and PC are concerned CE is the newest version.
I'm actually playing it on my ps3, so there's that too. PS3 and PS4 have crossplay too, so you get both communities together.
Don't have any PS systems, unfortunately.
 

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So having played BB:CP...I'm not entirely sure I'm digging the style of BB games now. A lot of visual noise, and flow seems very...weird. Also, looking through the controls - where is my basic grab and my command grabs, to get people when they turtle and block spam? (Maybe that is the point in BB and I'm just too used to punishing consecutive blocks with grabs in games like SF and DoA).
 

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Paragon Fury said:
So having played BB:CP...I'm not entirely sure I'm digging the style of BB games now. A lot of visual noise, and flow seems very...weird. Also, looking through the controls - where is my basic grab and my command grabs, to get people when they turtle and block spam? (Maybe that is the point in BB and I'm just too used to punishing consecutive blocks with grabs in games like SF and DoA).
Each to their own on the style personally I like how BB, SFV and DOA5 all look each one has their own thing going on but people each have their own tastes.

For BB I believe throw is B+C its a two button combination anyway if I remember properly while in GG its the old SF2 way or forward + heavy attack (slash I think but could be wrong).

Command throws if the character has them will be in their command list Tager has them for sure so check his. I am sure Dreiko will give you a more indepth answer hes much more knowledgeable than me on this especially with BB.

Also block spam lol.

I am pretty sure CF has a tutorial that will run you through the basics pretty quick including teaching you how to throw.
 

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Maximum Bert said:
Paragon Fury said:
So having played BB:CP...I'm not entirely sure I'm digging the style of BB games now. A lot of visual noise, and flow seems very...weird. Also, looking through the controls - where is my basic grab and my command grabs, to get people when they turtle and block spam? (Maybe that is the point in BB and I'm just too used to punishing consecutive blocks with grabs in games like SF and DoA).
Each to their own on the style personally I like how BB, SFV and DOA5 all look each one has their own thing going on but people each have their own tastes.

For BB I believe throw is B+C its a two button combination anyway if I remember properly while in GG its the old SF2 way or forward + heavy attack (slash I think but could be wrong).

Command throws if the character has them will be in their command list Tager has them for sure so check his. I am sure Dreiko will give you a more indepth answer hes much more knowledgeable than me on this especially with BB.

Also block spam lol.

I am pretty sure CF has a tutorial that will run you through the basics pretty quick including teaching you how to throw.
It should. Most Blazblue games have a fair tutorial.
 

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Paragon Fury said:
So having played BB:CP...I'm not entirely sure I'm digging the style of BB games now. A lot of visual noise, and flow seems very...weird. Also, looking through the controls - where is my basic grab and my command grabs, to get people when they turtle and block spam? (Maybe that is the point in BB and I'm just too used to punishing consecutive blocks with grabs in games like SF and DoA).

Are you sure you did the tutorial? Cause they explain the grabs in them. Grabs and airgrabs are done by pressing BC, you also have backgrabs with 4BC which have different properties outside of simply putting your foe behind you. Finally, unlike SF, you have a reactable window to tech grabs in BB, and you can also do mid-combo grabs which have a HUGE techable window as opposed to normal green grabs which you shouldn't do but if you do land one of those it does unscaled damage. Point basically is you gotta be ready to always tech while being comboed just in case someone tries to get a purple grab in cause in the end of combos a purple grab adds as much damage as like 2 supers.

Command grabs are special moves but not all chars have those, just go through the command list to see if they do. As for the flow and visuals, yeah, a lot of stuff happens and you need very high awareness of all parts of the screen as well as a general understanding of the places that people can get to such that you do not get surprised when, say, Valkenhayn turns into a wolf and flies off the top of the screen.


As for opening people up, you mainly use overheads, not grabs, to do that. Of course, when you fight the AI which reads your inputs, as I explained above, it'll have superhuman reflexes so overheads will SEEM not as effective but when fighting actual humans, overheads are the go to moves for opening people who defend a lot.


BB discourages turtling through the negative penalty system. If you back away a lot you enter a state where you lose out all of your resources and you take double damage and to exit the state you have to do offensive actions such as hitting buttons or moving forward.
 

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Does anyone know how to find local tournaments? I'm always looking for a good public match, but it's often just Smash Bros. (and my taunt spam strategy only gets me so far), plus they usually have an entry fee because of some prize which I don't care about because I never expect to win, I just want the competition. The last one I entered was clearly rigged, and the guy from Limn Interactive who set it up was shady as shit.
 

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Lisker84 said:
Does anyone know how to find local tournaments? I'm always looking for a good public match, but it's often just Smash Bros. (and my taunt spam strategy only gets me so far), plus they usually have an entry fee because of some prize which I don't care about because I never expect to win, I just want the competition. The last one I entered was clearly rigged, and the guy from Limn Interactive who set it up was shady as shit.
Most tourneys worth anything have entry fees, usually they go towards the prize money the top 3 get. You can basically gauge the value of competition by how much money the winner stands to earn. You can have casuals at these gatherings too of course so if you don't wanna participate you can just go and ask to play casuals with people when the tourney isn't taking up the setups, of course.


You have to specify which game you want to find people to play in, though, since that will decide weather or not it's easy or hard to find people near you. Smash and capcom games are the biggest while for airdashers you will have trouble finding people. I used dustloop to find my local communities when I was in the west coast as well as when on the east coast.