Film Snobbery
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I hate you so much right now! Sure that movie should have been good, but in the same way a collaboration between David Bowie and Mike Jagger or a game with Chainsaw bayonetts should have been good. Poor script which took itself far too serious and nothing else very special that comes to mind. Good plot, Bruce Campble, but that's it.Hey Joe said:
As for Miyazaki. I enjoyed Howl's Moving Castle. So full of childish fantasy, while appealing to all ages. A nice play with your imagination.
While I'm not into the 'snobiness' stages yet, I can have a good chat about most movies. THough there are faaaar too many I haven't seen. Ah, Jaws? Yeah, ouch.
To be honest, I just don't watch films that much. I see the occasional art-house-esque short or something recommended to me by close friends but it's a media I've yet to be enthralled by. Naturally, there are exceptions to that.
Pan's Labyrinth is one that I simply adored, as did I Sin City and A Clockwork Orange (Though, I really need to read the book.) Soon I plan to watch 1984 upon friendly recommendation. Heavenly Creatures is another I loved, on that note.
Does that count? Keep in mind I have been known to hiss and scream at films such as Die Hard, which make me choke on typical Hollywood nationalism.
Pan's Labyrinth is one that I simply adored, as did I Sin City and A Clockwork Orange (Though, I really need to read the book.) Soon I plan to watch 1984 upon friendly recommendation. Heavenly Creatures is another I loved, on that note.
Does that count? Keep in mind I have been known to hiss and scream at films such as Die Hard, which make me choke on typical Hollywood nationalism.
I once wrote an essay on how Die Hard was a parody of the Orthodox reflection of the the cold war. Does that count?Eggo said:
I'm a film snob of cult, horror and action films. Fuck art house.
Some of the best films ever: The Wicker Man (1973), Death Race 2000 (1975), Vanishing Point (1971).
Some of the worst films ever: The Wicker Man (2006), Death Race (2008), Vanishing Point (1997).
Some of the best films ever: The Wicker Man (1973), Death Race 2000 (1975), Vanishing Point (1971).
Some of the worst films ever: The Wicker Man (2006), Death Race (2008), Vanishing Point (1997).
Yeah, that's what was so awesome about it. No 'jumps' as such just unsettling. That and Britt Ekland's sexy dance. Don't Look Now is the same, just uneasy, although I find Wicker Man much more rewatchable.mintsauce said:
I love how they changed the Christian re-strained vs. Pagan sexually charged thing to women are evil in the remake, just insane. Don't forget the bees!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ-5Mg_12zo
That's a joke, right? Westerns ripped off Kurosawa!Decoy Doctorpus said:
Does Argento really count as film snobbery? Sure his films are good, but not exactly Fellini or Goddard or Kubrick.
Mr. OP, how do you feel about Takeshi Miike films?
To all the film snobs.
Why? perhaps you are not in the same catagory as an example I will give but it does bother me why people will watch "acclaimed unknown to only film snobs films" which appear to be nothing more than a poor attempt a home cinema and then we come dfown to the whole issue of ART!
Do film snobs watch films just to say that they have watched said film?
Please note I am not a person who will enjoy any old crap from Hollywood but I do enjoy a movie if it entertains me. Example (Predator - this film makes no excuses about what it is, it is an honest to god Macho action film that has some hilarious mistakes)
So film snobs what say you? do I have you all wrong?
Why? perhaps you are not in the same catagory as an example I will give but it does bother me why people will watch "acclaimed unknown to only film snobs films" which appear to be nothing more than a poor attempt a home cinema and then we come dfown to the whole issue of ART!
Do film snobs watch films just to say that they have watched said film?
Please note I am not a person who will enjoy any old crap from Hollywood but I do enjoy a movie if it entertains me. Example (Predator - this film makes no excuses about what it is, it is an honest to god Macho action film that has some hilarious mistakes)
So film snobs what say you? do I have you all wrong?
Hahaha I'm a film graduate and I worte my dissertation on Solondz! Got a 1st for it too. It was called 'Subverting Suburbia: The Function of Black Comedy in the Films of Todd Solondz', just in case you are interested.Hey Joe said:
This is why I can't go see another movie with Hey Joe. I just know that while I'm sitting there enjoying the BANG BANG SHIT ************ BOOM with extra bad guys he'll be right there, silently judging me because I have no idea whether it's a zoom-in, dolly-out or a zoom-out, dolly-in. I can never remember.
I tend to dislike film snobs, not because of the films that they watch but because they moan about popular films. I have a couple of friends who have a huge selection of foreign art house films and are constantly telling me to watch them because of the political undertones or the in your face irony of the entire film "if you just think about what the director isn't showing you" kind of things. This doesn't strike me as good directing but apparently it is groundbreaking.
I am not a purist though who only looks to Hollywood. In all fairness I prefer underground and foreign films because they tend to show what they want as opposed to cutting the films down to 12A/PG-13/[Whatever it is in your country] standards. Unless the film is improved because of the cuts (I prefer the theatrical cut as opposed to the directors cut of The 40 Year Old Virgin and Donnie Darko) then I am completely against this.
I prefer my Chan-Wook and Fukasaku films to Spielburg and Abrams but I do not believe that this makes me a snob because I can admit that I, on occassion, want to be wowed by explosions and paper thin plots. I primarily see films as a form of entertainment over any form of expression. I will not watch an arthouse film, not matter what the message it is giving, if it is boring whilst I will also quite quickly turn off the latest Hollywood blockbuster if I find the action/suspense/whatever unappealing.
Last point. One thing that does annoy me though is America's tendancy to remake everything to make them better. I was sat near my housemate the other day who was on the Internet and a trailer popup came up for 'Quarantine', we watched it and he said that it looked pretty scary. I immediately said 'That is [REC]', I went to IMDB and within one year America have in fact remade [REC]. Whilst I admit I haven't seen it yet (Live in UK) I will most likely go to watch it to see if it can live up to [REC], I think it is very poor of America to have remade a film after one year. I can accept films that are 20+ years old because they can at least weakly justify it as better effects and methods in which to film it.
Please don't see me as a snob, I do in fact like many of the remakes I just find it poor of America to be constantly remaking films that do not need to be remade. My one defining dislike to film snobs is that many refuse to even watch a remake because it is a remake, but still find it completely acceptable to ***** and moan about how terrible it is.
I am not a purist though who only looks to Hollywood. In all fairness I prefer underground and foreign films because they tend to show what they want as opposed to cutting the films down to 12A/PG-13/[Whatever it is in your country] standards. Unless the film is improved because of the cuts (I prefer the theatrical cut as opposed to the directors cut of The 40 Year Old Virgin and Donnie Darko) then I am completely against this.
I prefer my Chan-Wook and Fukasaku films to Spielburg and Abrams but I do not believe that this makes me a snob because I can admit that I, on occassion, want to be wowed by explosions and paper thin plots. I primarily see films as a form of entertainment over any form of expression. I will not watch an arthouse film, not matter what the message it is giving, if it is boring whilst I will also quite quickly turn off the latest Hollywood blockbuster if I find the action/suspense/whatever unappealing.
Last point. One thing that does annoy me though is America's tendancy to remake everything to make them better. I was sat near my housemate the other day who was on the Internet and a trailer popup came up for 'Quarantine', we watched it and he said that it looked pretty scary. I immediately said 'That is [REC]', I went to IMDB and within one year America have in fact remade [REC]. Whilst I admit I haven't seen it yet (Live in UK) I will most likely go to watch it to see if it can live up to [REC], I think it is very poor of America to have remade a film after one year. I can accept films that are 20+ years old because they can at least weakly justify it as better effects and methods in which to film it.
Please don't see me as a snob, I do in fact like many of the remakes I just find it poor of America to be constantly remaking films that do not need to be remade. My one defining dislike to film snobs is that many refuse to even watch a remake because it is a remake, but still find it completely acceptable to ***** and moan about how terrible it is.