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Mr. 47

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I don't mind it if it is retro, or hard. I love retro games, and while this will be my first Final Fantasy, I have played turn based games before.

So, with Final Fantasy IV, V, VI, VII, VIII and XI for PS1, and Final Fantasy I for NES, what am I missing? The numerics for this series are so screwed... FF II and III were NOT released outside of Japan, so Final Fantasy IV became II, and V became III for the Nintendo systems, while what was II on the Nintendo systems, was IV for the PS1 right?
So FF1 for NES, and FFs IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, and XI, I have all the North American Final Fantasys, correct?
 

remnant_phoenix

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Since this is a Final Fantasy thread and FF fans will likely see this, let me say it here...

Final Fantasy XIII SUCKED! If you honestly believe otherwise you are likely blinded by nostalgia or just blind to flaws in general. I find it baffling that this game actually has serious fans.

This is the first time I've indulged the desire to be be a troll, and while I don't feel good about it, it just had to be said...FFXIII was just so awful...
 

Fusioncode9

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Final Fantasy 4, 3/6, 7, and 10 seem to be the most loved games in the series. Though it doesn't really mater what order you play them in, only 7 and 10 got direct sequels.
 

Thaius

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Of those, start with either VII or VI. VI is the best game from back in the days of 2D and sprites, and VII is the best from after that, or at least the most balanced in its quality. As for which of the two is better, I have no idea to be honest. VI, VII, and X are three of the best games I have ever played, and though nostalgia puts VII as my favorite (since it was my first and immediately became my favorite game of all time), I am honestly not sure which of those three is the best. So go with either VI or VII, depending on whether you'd rather start with a really good-looking sprite-based game or a dated but still functional-looking 3D title. Both are amazing in every regard, two of the best interactive fantasy stories ever told.
 

Silent_Protagonist

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I would like to think of myself as someone who knows Final Fantasy. Ive played through most, not all, of the Final Fantasy games. 1, 2, 4-9. In my personal experience, I began with FF1. I started only a couple years ago aswell. FF1 is great to start with because the story is virtually non-existent. You focus more on game play which is to a certain extent, common throughout all FF games. (Somewhat people, calm yourselves for one moment :p)

My personal favourite is FF6 though. Great story, and characters. Although, to be 100% honest, pick which ever one YOU think sounds the coolest. You'll enjoy any of them, they are all good games. My opinion, FF6, 9 or 4 are the best, but thats me.

Try not to listen to too much bias, yea FF7 is a bit over rated, yea FF8 is a strang diparture and black sheep, yea 12's protagonist is lame; but theyre all good.

Oh, and PS, if its your first time (lol), bring a Walkthrough, youll need it for your first Final Fantasy ;D
 

madwarper

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While, I've only played 1-8 of the main series, I've also played some of the off shoots, such as Mythic Quest, Tactics, Crystal Chronicles, Revenant Wings, etc.

I'd say starting out at 1 and playing through the evolution of the series would be the best way to have an appreciation for the changes overtime.

1, 3, and 5 had a class system. In 1, you choose the classes of your party of four and you never could change them. In 3 and 5, you could change the classes of your party members on the fly.

4 and 6 had individual characters each have unique, non-changeable classes. So, the classes your party had depended on either who you choose to take with you, or who the plot allowed you to have.

2, 7 and 8 really didn't have any semblance of a class structure. Any character could cast any magic.
 

Chibz

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Omega1k said:
So FF1 for NES, and FFs IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, and XI, I have all the North American Final Fantasys, correct?
Originally in north america we only got 1, 4 and 6. The superior of the old schools (2, 3 and 5) didn't come around until later. I'm still waiting to get an actual release of FF5.

Apparently Square is considering remaking FF5 and FF6 in 3D for the 3DS. We can only hope...
 

Zacharious-khan

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This will be the best opinion you will get on this series: You will never get a consistent opinion on this series. They are all pretty good in their own way. If you like a game with a story to tell and can get past the combat, you will like final fantasy. The stores are great soundtracks are amazing.

Speaking of which FF13 was created by a different director than every game before it so its different and ... not as good. The old creator formed mistwalker studio and all of their games are pretty good and very final fantasy-esque.

checkem out
 

Baralak

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Chibz said:
Omega1k said:
So FF1 for NES, and FFs IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, and XI, I have all the North American Final Fantasys, correct?
Originally in north america we only got 1, 4 and 6. The superior of the old schools (2, 3 and 5) didn't come around until later. I'm still waiting to get an actual release of FF5.

Apparently Square is considering remaking FF5 and FF6 in 3D for the 3DS. We can only hope...
We got V on the GBA.

Anywho, yeah, we got the first one on NES. 2 and 3 were also on the Japanese NES, but we didn't get them. When they brought the 4th one to the US on the SNES, to avoid confusion, they renamed it 2 for us, and dumbed it down by lowering the difficulty and removing a ton of features. They didn't think the 5th one would do well, so they skipped it, but decided to give us the 6th one. Again, to avoid confusion, they called it 3 for us. However, once the PS1 hit, they decided to bring us 7, but keep the original numbering, confusing everyone. However, they stuck to the original(Japanese) numbering ever since, giving every port and remake of the American FF2 and 3 their proper numbers, being 4 and 6, respectively.

We didn't get the real FF2 until it's PS1 remake, which was packaged with the PS1 remake of the original FF in "Final Fantasy Origins". We didn't get V until it was released on PS1 as "Final Fantasy Anthologies" with Chrono Trigger, and again on the GBA. We never got 3 until it's DS remake.
 

Eefness

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The Lesbian Flower said:
I must be the odd duck of FF fans because I actually like FF12.

Anywho, I recommend 6, 10, and 12
You'r not alone, I also liked the game, in fact if I still had my Ps2 Id be playing it right now. Did the battle concept 13 was looking for FAR better.

As for the order Id say start with 6 (3 in US), then go to 5 (2 in us again), then I guess 7 though if you can get your hands on it try and get 10, just be warned except for the how-do-you-stand-strait-oh-god-your-the-best-character-in-this-game Lulu most of the characters suck ..... that and just ignore the voice acting (horrible dubs). Its got the good old battle system spruced up and the leveling system is great.
 

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Zacharious-khan said:
They are all pretty good in their own way. If you like a game with a story to tell and can get past the combat, you will like final fantasy. The stores are great soundtracks are amazing.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but not all FF narrative is well done. In fact, the vast majority of FF games' narrative is awful. Yes, even among games I love.

FF1: The narrative is pretty much nonexistant.
FF2: It's mostly a "Where the fuck do I go, what do I DO" kind of games. It's very vague about what you have to do.
FF3: Pretty much about gathering crystals to fight evil.
FF4-6, pretty good.
FF Mystic Quest: The narrative in it is, at best, juvenile. The character development is laughable but DAMN do I love this game.
FF7: This gam has been violated enough by things I linked to already. It deserves a break.

After that FF takes a turn for the worse. Worst offenders though?

FF10: Absolute horseshit narrative, plagued by the characters never acting in a believable or intelligent manner. Oh, and the ending sucks. Especially where...

It turns out that Tidus is basically a group hallucination. Making him the mos disappointing imaginary friend ever. At least his dad calls him a pussy.

FF12: It has Vaan. Vaan is enough to ruin any game he's in, ever.

madwarper said:
So, you're saying my GBA copy of FF5 Advance wasn't an "actual release"? o_O
TBH I missed a large portion of Nintendo's handhelds. My lack of knowledge of what games on them is understandable. Although I was depressed (and a little insulted) by some of my findings. (DAMN YOU DK ON GBA!)
 

madwarper

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SecretAlienMan said:
Just don't play FF 8 first; I still haven't figured out its "junction" system works yet
What's there to "figure out"?

The GF's offer differing stat increases as well as differing abilities in combat.
You either battle the GF's directly, or draw them off of bosses.
You equip a variety of GF's on to each character to get their stats up and balance your party.
Also, since the game scales the levels of your enemies to your level, you keep try to keep your parties level as low as possible.
 

SecretAlienMan

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madwarper said:
SecretAlienMan said:
Just don't play FF 8 first; I still haven't figured out its "junction" system works yet
What's there to "figure out"?

The GF's offer differing stat increases as well as differing abilities in combat.
You either battle the GF's directly, or draw them off of bosses.
You equip a variety of GF's on to each character to get their stats up and balance your party.
Also, since the game scales the levels of your enemies to your level, you keep try to keep your parties level as low as possible.
Whenever I tried it my stats didn't go up by that much... by the final boss my guys only dealt 200 damage with their basic weapon and only had a couple thousand hp (I heavily relied on summoning for every battle situation) but then I see youtube videos of characters with 999999 hp and dealing thousands and thousands of damage with physical attacks. so I assumed I did something wrong with the whole magic junction thingy
 

madwarper

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SecretAlienMan said:
Whenever I tried it my stats didn't go up by that much... by the final boss my guys only dealt 200 damage with their basic weapon and only had a couple thousand hp (I heavily relied on summoning for every battle situation) but then I see youtube videos of characters with 999999 hp and dealing thousands and thousands of damage with physical attacks. so I assumed I did something wrong with the whole magic junction thingy
What magics were you using? Some magic is tiered and some is simply better at boosting some stats than others. It's very easy to get to the end of the game with a lvl 19 char maxed out on all stats.

Also, you only have to level Ifrit up to get access to his "Ammo-RF" ability to make Squal's final weapon.
Then, simply hit him with an Aura and the final boss is cake work.
 

Beautiful End

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My advice to someone who's new to the series: Just play whatever you want first. The beauty about these games is that they're not in chronological order so you can start with whatever you want. Except for FFX and FFX-2. And FFXIII and the upcoming FFXIII-2, I guess. I would recommend playing the one that appeals to you the most first, story wise.

My BIASED advice: Play FF8. It's pure awesomeness.

And now, my list of FF games I have, starting with the ones I just love:

-FF8
-FF9
-FF12
-FF10
-FF10-2 (HEY! It wasn't THAT bad!)
-FF4
-A huge tie between FF5, 6, 1 and 2 because I haven't finished.
-FF13 but only because I only got it a while ago and I haven't played it properly. Although it's shaping up to be one of my favorites.
-FF7

Look, bottom line: For a newcomer, ANY FF game would do. If they're willing to spend the time to understand the story and the mechanics, they'll learn to like the game. Hey, say what you want about any FF game but the gameplay is great and friendly. Even FF12 and 13. Hate it all you want but the gameplay isn't broken, it just takes patience to understand it. Sure, it might not appeal to some who are used to something else but it's not broken.

Proof is that my first FF was FF8. A lot of people have complained about the convoluted Junction system. I was 13-14 when I first played it, but I was so into that game that I took the time to understand it and I leveled up everything and everyone. And I was a kid. Hell, FF8 was my first RPG ever (Or second if you count Pokemon).
 

LittleBlondeGoth

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Settle down, this might be lengthy.

I've been a Final Fantasy fan now for more years than I conveniently count. The series has its high and low points, and your own individual tastes will count for a lot with regards to which games you particularly enjoy.

Personally, my favourites are VII and VI. I've poured hours, days, weeks... years into these. I still play them today, and I'm reasonably certain that I'll still be playing them another 10 years down the line. Characters, story, music, villains - I'm just absorbed by these worlds. The combat mechanics are quick to pick up and enjoyable to tinker with. Though as a fair warning, you'll be able to go make and eat dinner by the time Knights of the Round has finished a quadra magic summon in VII. Maybe I'm one of those rabid fangirls, I don't know, but this game was my reason for buying a PS1 in the first place, back in 1997.

IX is a lot more light-hearted than some of its predecessors, and also fun to play. It felt a little shorter than VII and VIII to me, but I'm sure it wasn't - it's still 3 or 4 discs long. It also has Vivi the black mage in, who is possibly the most adorable thing ever.

VIII is one that seems to divide people, with a lot of gamers citing it as being way down on their lists, Squall being 'too emo' and a whole load of other things. I enjoyed it once I got my head round the fact that it wasn't the same as VII. I still don't like the Draw system though. Spoony has the right of that - it can get very tedious. This is why I'd recommend trying it after some of the others - you might be more likely to forgive it some things and persevere. :) It's a good story if you do.

X and X-2 should probably be played sequentially. X is certainly quite linear, but then if you consider the story of Yuna's pilgramage, it's understandable so I'm not to bothered by it. X-2 uses the same world but a lot more open. Tidus... Hmm. He's not one of my favourite protagonists (that honour belongs to Vincent Valentine - man, Turk, God), but he'll see you through. Just try to close your ears through the infamous laughing scene.

As for the rest... I'm actually one of those weirdos who found XII a lot of fun, at least once I was able to move Vaan out of the party and pop Balthier in there instead. And the early games of I to V give you a great insight into how the series has progressed. The only thing I can't comment on yet is XIII, since I haven't really started that yet (too many other games, work, blah blah blah).

In all honesty, play the first one you can get your hands on (aside from XIII I think) and see how you get on with it. Don't be put off by old graphics or sprites. They aren't perfect games, don't expect them to be. But let them tell you their stories and Uematsu's music take you along for the ride. :)
 

Plinglebob

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If you've never played an FF game, I'd recommend going with IX. Its available on the PSN so it'll be easy to get hold of at a resonable price and the fact its a bit of an homage to the previous games, it has a lot of elements that are staples of the series (active time battle system, XP levelling). On top of this, the levelling system is easy to get the hang of (though a bit grindy at times), the story is relatively straight foward and unlike a lot of the other recent games, each character has a defined role so you're less likely to make mistakes when levelling/gearing.