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Arsen

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I want it back.

And stop with the whole "let's merge every culture into a single smorgaboard of sci-fi inspiration" thing. Go back to the basics. The series hasn't grown since FF8.

And give me an OFFICIAL sequel to FFT. Not the shitty kids game, an ACTUAL sequel where I play as a Knight to King Delita...
 

Sasha Janre

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-Seraph- said:
Sasha Janre said:
-Seraph- said:
I love Final Fantasy and I find their stories absolutely wonderful despite what others may think. My favorite is actually a close tie between FF6 and FF7, both were just spectacular pieces of story telling and design. FF6 had a kick ass story, villain, and game play that was rock solid. FF7 had all that and had a wonderful villain, which in my books was JENOVA. Sephiroth was a tragic villain once you actually get deep into his story and was nothing but a pawn in JENOVA's scheme, she was the true threat in 7 and always will be for me.
That's an interesting take on it! For me, I always thought once Sephiroth went mad from the misinformation he took in on account of Gast's reports, he became incredibly powerful. Nomura's stated somewhere that Sephiroth's true power may never be known. He overpowered Jenova and used her and through the sheer strength of his will, assimilated her powers and used her limbs as he did. Even in AC, because of how strong his will to do what he planned to be a God, it split into three forms (Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo) and he will never truly disappear (like Lucrecia in the Crystal Cave). But I do agree that his story is tragic .. he was the perfect soldier, but that nagging feeling of his origins, (nudged along by Genesis) sent him spiralling into that madness he never came back from.

/end geek talk
Well since your one of the few people who has ever really shown an interest in my theory I shall elaborate since this topic is FF, might as well talk about anything related to it.

(Jenova theory)

/end geek talk
That ... is actually pretty fascinating. LOL And don't worry about being confusing. I wrote an literary critiscism paper using Freud's dream theory (the initial part, the rest was all pen0r theory) and Cloud's psychosis and how he got all messed up in the headspace. THAT was confusing and hard to keep straight.
 

Lukeje

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urprobablyright said:
Never had a chance. Never had a console/access to them when I wanted it. Is there a Wii game? I might get FF: Tactics from the GCN for the heck of it, since it'll play on my Wii
Get a DS (NB. not a DSi); most of the games before VII have been rereleased on the DS or the GBA.
 

Gintoki

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I haven't played all of them but the best plot is, in my opinion, by far FF4's.
The DS version was also very good.

FFX was also a lot of fun, but I disliked most of the characters.

FF7 was very good, too bad square is milking it's success so much, it's almost too annoying to see Cloud AGAIN.
 

-Seraph-

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Sasha Janre said:
-Seraph- said:
Sasha Janre said:
-Seraph- said:
I love Final Fantasy and I find their stories absolutely wonderful despite what others may think. My favorite is actually a close tie between FF6 and FF7, both were just spectacular pieces of story telling and design. FF6 had a kick ass story, villain, and game play that was rock solid. FF7 had all that and had a wonderful villain, which in my books was JENOVA. Sephiroth was a tragic villain once you actually get deep into his story and was nothing but a pawn in JENOVA's scheme, she was the true threat in 7 and always will be for me.
That's an interesting take on it! For me, I always thought once Sephiroth went mad from the misinformation he took in on account of Gast's reports, he became incredibly powerful. Nomura's stated somewhere that Sephiroth's true power may never be known. He overpowered Jenova and used her and through the sheer strength of his will, assimilated her powers and used her limbs as he did. Even in AC, because of how strong his will to do what he planned to be a God, it split into three forms (Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo) and he will never truly disappear (like Lucrecia in the Crystal Cave). But I do agree that his story is tragic .. he was the perfect soldier, but that nagging feeling of his origins, (nudged along by Genesis) sent him spiralling into that madness he never came back from.

/end geek talk
Well since your one of the few people who has ever really shown an interest in my theory I shall elaborate since this topic is FF, might as well talk about anything related to it.

(Jenova theory)

/end geek talk
That ... is actually pretty fascinating. LOL And don't worry about being confusing. I wrote an literary critiscism paper using Freud's dream theory (the initial part, the rest was all pen0r theory) and Cloud's psychosis and how he got all messed up in the headspace. THAT was confusing and hard to keep straight.
oh so your one of those people who knows that Cloud is NOT an emo...good for you. Oh and thanks for the compliment, No other Final Fantasy has got me thinking so much as 7, and I have only ever beaten the entire game once but it still remains fresh in my mind.
 

Silvertongue

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I have to admit, the first time I played 7 it blew me away.

I used to be absolutely OBSESSED with FF. But I didn't have a working ps2 for the longest time. As a result, I'm just now playing, X, X-2, and XII.

In the meantime, I've kind of drifted away from FF. I don't regard them as the end-all be-all of console RPGs. I just consider them to be what they are: Really good RPGs.

I might be the only person I know who thinks the series has been at least consistently GOOD. I don't really have a fave, but the one I've beaten the most times is VIII, considering it was the one I had access to the longest.
 

Sasha Janre

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-Seraph- said:
Sasha Janre said:
-Seraph- said:
Sasha Janre said:
-Seraph- said:
I love Final Fantasy and I find their stories absolutely wonderful despite what others may think. My favorite is actually a close tie between FF6 and FF7, both were just spectacular pieces of story telling and design. FF6 had a kick ass story, villain, and game play that was rock solid. FF7 had all that and had a wonderful villain, which in my books was JENOVA. Sephiroth was a tragic villain once you actually get deep into his story and was nothing but a pawn in JENOVA's scheme, she was the true threat in 7 and always will be for me.
That's an interesting take on it! For me, I always thought once Sephiroth went mad from the misinformation he took in on account of Gast's reports, he became incredibly powerful. Nomura's stated somewhere that Sephiroth's true power may never be known. He overpowered Jenova and used her and through the sheer strength of his will, assimilated her powers and used her limbs as he did. Even in AC, because of how strong his will to do what he planned to be a God, it split into three forms (Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo) and he will never truly disappear (like Lucrecia in the Crystal Cave). But I do agree that his story is tragic .. he was the perfect soldier, but that nagging feeling of his origins, (nudged along by Genesis) sent him spiralling into that madness he never came back from.

/end geek talk
Well since your one of the few people who has ever really shown an interest in my theory I shall elaborate since this topic is FF, might as well talk about anything related to it.

(Jenova theory)

/end geek talk
That ... is actually pretty fascinating. LOL And don't worry about being confusing. I wrote an literary critiscism paper using Freud's dream theory (the initial part, the rest was all pen0r theory) and Cloud's psychosis and how he got all messed up in the headspace. THAT was confusing and hard to keep straight.
oh so your one of those people who knows that Cloud is NOT an emo...good for you. Oh and thanks for the compliment, No other Final Fantasy has got me thinking so much as 7, and I have only ever beaten the entire game once but it still remains fresh in my mind.
XD Yeah, I know Cloud isn't Emo, just messed UP in the headspace. Between the Mako poisoning, his own trauma from his hometown being burnt down by his childhood hero that broke his mind down and when Zack was telling him all those stories on their trip to midgar, cloud internalized it and that's where the descrepancies (sp) between HIS memories and ZACK'S memories that show up in the game appear.

It took me playing Crisis Core to realize that the voice talking to Cloud in the beginning of the game is Zack and not like .. Sephiroth or Jenova. Messed me UP. I tried to play FF7 once a year to see if I can still do it and for tradition's sake, but this program I'm in has taken away a lot of my time so I can't do it as much as I want now. XD And it won't matter how many times I play it, Missing # in Nibelheim mansion in the safe still kicks my ass this way and that causing me to grind a bit.

Ahh .. <3 it's fun.
 

Kukakkau

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played 1,2,7,10 and 10-2
and i like them all except for 10-2 which can burn in a pit for all i care and im indifferent about 2
pretty much anything after 10 i think looks crap and ive kinda gone off the whole series anyway
 

StickManRampage

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I like the first one for NES... that is when it was kewl, rather than gay futuristic japanese ppl, it was medieval and shit
 

sirdapfrey

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Final Fantasy games are just a little "too much" for me, but I will always hold a place in my heart for The original for NES, not necessarily because the game itself was all that, but because it pretty much started the console gaming RPG genre.
 

Superbeast

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Love the Final Fantasy series.

To my shame, I've only ever played X, X-2 and XII.

The very first game I saw was my step-brother playing VII - and I just didn't have a clue what he was doing (he was running through some hovel, then up some massive sky-scraper, scared witless of the guards...that didn't seem to do anything whatsoever - as in not even move). So I never played it myself, apart from when he said "try this out" (a battle in some underground dungeon versus a Mech-like thingy, with Barret, Cloud and some girl).

X absolutely stunned me. I thought the gameplay was awesome, and the characters interesting - but I could never level-up the party, and the sphereboard thingy still confuses me (I felt bad not having Tidus in my party, and if you wanted to summon you needed Yuna, and with those two you needed a heavy-hitter like Auron, so Wakka, Rikku, Lulu and to a lesser extent Khimari (though he stood in for whoever fell first) never really got battle/training time. My first copy of the game kept freezing on "Lake Macalania Bottom", but I got a new one about 9 months ago so I might give it another go. Only bad point was it was one of my first PS2 games, so I expected every other game to look as good...

X-2 I found quite cool, but once I got the overdrives/whatever they're called, I found it hard to level up the "normal" girls. Plus the difficulty in completing even the initial dresspheres, let alone the others you find (and having to do things in *just* theright order to be able to get them all) - especially Sonsgtress, since it makes the character so weak, was a grind-pain. Still, the missions were kinda fun and the plot engrossing.

XII I love, I'm not sure why. I think it's because of the sandbox nature (by having visible enemies it's a little more free-roaming, plus you don't get that pain-in-the-ears sound of smashing glass whenever you get attacked) and the combat system, whilst taking a while to get to grips with, is quite intuitive, and it's nice to be able to get your characters to operate independantly (since it's "active battle" you can save time by *not* having to shuffle through all the characters to cast an ability/spell/item, potentially saving your bacon). The insta-death nature of some areas, when underlevelled, is really annoying though, and the grind gets repetitive - but the chaining means that it is at least rewarding (such as in the Vera woods, where you can attack the Couri all day long, and by the time you get to a 100-chain you've levelled up a fair bit and have loads of money/rare items that sell for loads. The Bazaar is fun, but I always managed to find items I'd just bought in a shop after I'd used said item for a levelling-up chain. Keeping your armour topped up (to prevent the aforementioned insta-death battles) gets expensive too. Plus I can never choose decent equipment options for the characters, and usually end up wanting to swap them after investing *loads* of experience in abilities/weapons of one "class". I also found I never really used the Espers, as I had bad experiences with the first one (the fire one...that couldn't even beat off a load of fire-weak flans in the Luhsu[sp?] mines). If anyone has any XII team tips/builds and would care to PM them my way I'd be quite grateful.

Wow, sorry for the wall-o'-text, this topic has got me really wanting to play through my games again. But which? X or XII? Argh, decisions!
 

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Wow, sorry for the wall-o'-text, this topic has got me really wanting to play through my games again. But which? X or XII? Argh, decisions!
Give to old ones a go, you MAY like them if you can set aside what standards you may have after playing the later ones.
 

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Arsen said:
I want it back.

And stop with the whole "let's merge every culture into a single smorgaboard of sci-fi inspiration" thing. Go back to the basics. The series hasn't grown since FF8.

And give me an OFFICIAL sequel to FFT. Not the shitty kids game, an ACTUAL sequel where I play as a Knight to King Delita...
I disagree with you on two counts here.

The first thing I would disagree with is your statement that it hasn't grown since 8. I would argue that 9 was one of the better ones because they adopted a unique art style and settled on a more light-hearted but altogether satisfying experience while keeping themselves still, quintessentially, a final fantasy game.

The second thing I would disagree with you on is that Tactics needs a sequel. It does not. I think that a sequel to that game would be, firstly, milking the franchise for your money and secondly, would take away from the stand-alone quality of the first game. Not all good games need a sequel, some can just be the beginning and end of a story.
 

Klagermeister

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There's never been a Final Fantasy game I liked.
The turn-based RPG's aren't fun, they're just WORK.
The real-time ones? Now much appeal, considering you can't dodge many moves in that either.
 

mr mcshiznit

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FFX, I love the story and the graphics at the time were pretty sweet. Also the "sphere grid" leveling system was my fav. leveling system of all time. As i have said before i'm in the minority here but i also like random battles, constant grinding, and turn based combat.
 

Kyuumi

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I'd say my favourite ones have to be 4, 5, 7, 9 and 10.

10-2 and 11 were horrible, I can't believe they made them, what were they thinking?!
 

Vlane

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Since IX the series went downhill with no game which has the potential to be a good game in sight(except Versus) but that's just me.