Finally Starting League of Legends
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Ryze, pretty basic champion a stun ability, a farm ability, a basic nuke, and a very simple ultimate.
Expect getting angry and doing poorly. And getting yelled at. The getting angry and doing poorly will lessen out over time as your improve but the getting yelled at part will always be with you regardless of what MOBA you play.
As for climbing the ladder I never play ranked, all I can say is make sure you have some friends and build a proper team, going solo is a surefire way to get anger problems.
Expect getting angry and doing poorly. And getting yelled at. The getting angry and doing poorly will lessen out over time as your improve but the getting yelled at part will always be with you regardless of what MOBA you play.
As for climbing the ladder I never play ranked, all I can say is make sure you have some friends and build a proper team, going solo is a surefire way to get anger problems.
LoL. A wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Run, dude. Keep your BP down and your body healthy. You will hate the game, yourself, and society.
Besides, their balance is horrendous.
I'm sending you a Dota 2 key. It's a lot harder but a lot more rewarding with better balance and a better community.
Run, dude. Keep your BP down and your body healthy. You will hate the game, yourself, and society.
Besides, their balance is horrendous.
I'm sending you a Dota 2 key. It's a lot harder but a lot more rewarding with better balance and a better community.
Pretty much any of the 420IP Champions are tailor made to help beginners while also being viable in higher play. Annie or Ryze mid, Ashe carry, Nunu support, etc etc that kinda thing.
Last hit minions only to not push the lane (unless the other team has no jungler, then push for days) I would recommended not playing AD Carry for a decnet amount of time, I was so bad at it until WELL after level 30. Even now I play "lol Arcane Shift trololol" Ezreal almost exclusively when I carry. With Miss "Broken Tier" Fortune in second place.
You will probably get raged at but since I play a lot of Ranked now (don't ask why) Normals, are really, really, REALLY chilled out for me. I will literally make the bravest plays you have ever seen.
Like when I was on just over a quarter health backing under mid tower as Talon yesterday, enemy Ahri flashed out of nowhere and missed her combo that surely would have killed me. I just stood there, started backing again, then I got the impulse to Flash combo onto HER. NORMALS, FUCK IT!
Killed her, witty "I can do that too" in allchat. I died too because intense bravery is not good for your long term health.
Oh and for the love of GOD when you hit level 11 (12?) TAKE FLASH! Please... Just do. You take Ghost on a certain few Champions who benefit greatly from a speed buff (Hecarim, Olaf, Singed for example) but the vast majority need Flash.
Also builds may be confusing but (I never thought I would say this) but the recommended builds from Riot are actually good. Not great but nowhere near the travesty of Season 2 "recommended" builds, so follow them until you get your head around the game.
Last hit minions only to not push the lane (unless the other team has no jungler, then push for days) I would recommended not playing AD Carry for a decnet amount of time, I was so bad at it until WELL after level 30. Even now I play "lol Arcane Shift trololol" Ezreal almost exclusively when I carry. With Miss "Broken Tier" Fortune in second place.
You will probably get raged at but since I play a lot of Ranked now (don't ask why) Normals, are really, really, REALLY chilled out for me. I will literally make the bravest plays you have ever seen.
Like when I was on just over a quarter health backing under mid tower as Talon yesterday, enemy Ahri flashed out of nowhere and missed her combo that surely would have killed me. I just stood there, started backing again, then I got the impulse to Flash combo onto HER. NORMALS, FUCK IT!
Killed her, witty "I can do that too" in allchat. I died too because intense bravery is not good for your long term health.
Oh and for the love of GOD when you hit level 11 (12?) TAKE FLASH! Please... Just do. You take Ghost on a certain few Champions who benefit greatly from a speed buff (Hecarim, Olaf, Singed for example) but the vast majority need Flash.
Also builds may be confusing but (I never thought I would say this) but the recommended builds from Riot are actually good. Not great but nowhere near the travesty of Season 2 "recommended" builds, so follow them until you get your head around the game.
Don't play League of Legends. If you want to play a MOBA at least play something with better game balance and a more intesting metagame, like Dota 2.
You can play any hero, you don't need to buy them.
You can play any hero, you don't need to buy them.
I play on EU north, and I am surprised that there are not so many complaining people there.
Like, I saw only two people being really rude.
I picked up Fiddlesticks as my first hero, and fell in love with him the second I played a game with him.
The hero I found pretty easy to play is Alistar, you have a big health pool and a great escape ability in the form of headbutt (you can knock back chasing champions, knock them under your tower for an easy kill early game, and so on)- And you can unlock him if you subscribe to Riots youtube channel+ you get a skin for him.
Also, Udyr is beast and the manliest of all the heroes out there!
It helps if you played another MOBA before (coming from DOTA I found it pretty simple)
Like, I saw only two people being really rude.
I picked up Fiddlesticks as my first hero, and fell in love with him the second I played a game with him.
The hero I found pretty easy to play is Alistar, you have a big health pool and a great escape ability in the form of headbutt (you can knock back chasing champions, knock them under your tower for an easy kill early game, and so on)- And you can unlock him if you subscribe to Riots youtube channel+ you get a skin for him.
Also, Udyr is beast and the manliest of all the heroes out there!
It helps if you played another MOBA before (coming from DOTA I found it pretty simple)
Why is ghost better for Singed? (just asking, I have still very little experience with LoL)The Wykydtron said:
Because lol chase Singed harder pls. His ult gives him a move speed boost (amoung other things) that stacks incredibly well with Ghost. Have you ever seen a fed Singed Ghosting into your team? Scary shit, he's so fast and ignores unit collision so there is no way he is not poisoning your whole team and flipping one unlucky fucker into the entirety of his team. In comparison, Flash would just move him forward for maybe a flash-flip, probably not on the enemy carries because they would be at the back and Flash isn't enough to get there. Also chase a Singed who is Ghosting away. I dare you.Mordekaien said:
See also Olaf, Ult/Ghost Olaf is this unstoppable pain train who sprints past your entire front line and instagibs any squishies at the back. Again, if he Flashes into them and misses his first Undertow he is stood there with a million mile gap between him and squishies and only his base move speed to get the rest of the way.
Thanks for the info, I'm just a lowly lvl 10 right now, so I haven't seen that much, that's why I was asking.The Wykydtron said:
I played Singed once (when I unlocked him) and since I'm terrible I don't think I was fed at all.
I like his playstyle though, flinging people to towers and on poison trail is pretty funny.
I wouldn't say it's better so much as russian, you'll still be sent messages of hate, except they'll be in symbols your keyboard doesn't have.recruit00 said:
There's then the ability to have them actually shout at you with their mic, again in a language you don't understand, they don't have that calibre of douchery in League.
I prefer Dota 2 over LoL by a fairly large margin (a big reason that could entice newcomers being you get all heros from the start, and don't need to grind runes, all gameplay stuff is unlocked from the start) but saying come over because the community is incredibly misleading.
Wait, next to all posts on this LoL thread can be summed up as "lol, fuck you for even trying, i'm going to advertise DOTA at you instead of answering the damned thread"
Come on guys... That's kind of a dick move.
Oh yeah, everyone and their dog plays DOTA on this site. My bad.
Come on guys... That's kind of a dick move.
Oh yeah, everyone and their dog plays DOTA on this site. My bad.
To be fair, some extra variation never hurts.The Wykydtron said:
Besides, if LoL is so good then he'll stay over there with you filthy casuls
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But yeah from what I've played of LoL before I started DOTA they're very much similar, and if you can learn the basics of one you know the basics of the other. Try and get someone on Skype to play with, avoid laning with randoms whenever possible, watch some videos and use a guide (does LoL have in-game guide selection? I dunno.) and don't quit just because you had one or two [sub]or three[/sub] [sub][sub]or four[/sub][/sub] [sub][sub][sub]or five[/sub][/sub][/sub] shitty games.
Oh god, don't tell him to play Soraka. I HATE Soraka with a passion. She brings nothing to a lane except sustain (a heal with an ungodly cooldown so it might as well not exist) a sort of ok silence (but really, a silence in an AD Carry lane? So useful >.>) a fucking damage skill that is just really...really... *sigh* and she's squishy as fuck. I just hate Soraka yo'SecretNegative said:
I would LOVE her to be good, really I would. I like her premise and her ult is great but she has no protection for herself or anyone in her team. I see a Soraka ult go off I immediately think "oh, who's about to die *this* time?"
Wish my arse...
As a Dota 2 player who started with and occasionally revisits LoL, I'd like to throw in a recommendation for Dota 2 before I answer proper. I won't get into the gameplay reasons because I don't want to wall of text you, and I feel as though it's the whole hog or nothing when discussing them...
What I will say is that Dota 2's business model is FAR better; every hero is free as others have said, and you also don't have to grind games or pay cash to fill various hero-augmenting "rune pages". In LoL, level 30 will net you the LP to fill one rune page ONLY if you haven't liberally bought heroes. And then you'll ONLY be optimal on heroes that fit this rune page... In my time, that seriously bothered me and I did end up spending money, which I regret.
Anyway, anyway. A recommendation, a quick-start tip and a closing comment.
I liked to play Kayle bottom as a support or mid as a ganking semi-carry. Learning when and on whom to use her ultimate is potentially a tripping-up point for a newer player, but she's immensely fun and she has some great cosmetic sets. Recommended for role versatility (a double edged sword thanks to rune pages), durability and surprising kill (fun) potential.
Starting out, you should play a couple of bot matches alone. This is to give the videos you're about to watch some context. Now go watch several videos of higher level players- preferably ones that include your first choice hero somewhere- to observe their behavior. Now study the hell out of the item store, watch a few more games (this time paying attention to item choices and use) and THEN play a solo or co-op vs. AI match. Now start playing normals and gaining ranks.
In closing, as others have said, there will be a lot of unpleasant people along the way... DON'T let it give you match anxiety. People you don't know, the quality of whose judgement you can safely assume to be rubbish, are saying words on the internet. Maybe you WERE to blame- no doubt sometimes you will be. Maybe you weren't. It doesn't matter. Just keep playing, calmly report and block unpleasant players, keep growing and eventually you'll reap a great reward from this MOBA business, trust me.
What I will say is that Dota 2's business model is FAR better; every hero is free as others have said, and you also don't have to grind games or pay cash to fill various hero-augmenting "rune pages". In LoL, level 30 will net you the LP to fill one rune page ONLY if you haven't liberally bought heroes. And then you'll ONLY be optimal on heroes that fit this rune page... In my time, that seriously bothered me and I did end up spending money, which I regret.
Anyway, anyway. A recommendation, a quick-start tip and a closing comment.
I liked to play Kayle bottom as a support or mid as a ganking semi-carry. Learning when and on whom to use her ultimate is potentially a tripping-up point for a newer player, but she's immensely fun and she has some great cosmetic sets. Recommended for role versatility (a double edged sword thanks to rune pages), durability and surprising kill (fun) potential.
Starting out, you should play a couple of bot matches alone. This is to give the videos you're about to watch some context. Now go watch several videos of higher level players- preferably ones that include your first choice hero somewhere- to observe their behavior. Now study the hell out of the item store, watch a few more games (this time paying attention to item choices and use) and THEN play a solo or co-op vs. AI match. Now start playing normals and gaining ranks.
In closing, as others have said, there will be a lot of unpleasant people along the way... DON'T let it give you match anxiety. People you don't know, the quality of whose judgement you can safely assume to be rubbish, are saying words on the internet. Maybe you WERE to blame- no doubt sometimes you will be. Maybe you weren't. It doesn't matter. Just keep playing, calmly report and block unpleasant players, keep growing and eventually you'll reap a great reward from this MOBA business, trust me.
I'm also considering getting into LoL, and is there really any reason (besides Valve-worship) to pick DOTA2 over LoL?
Everything I've seen of DOTA2 makes it look like it can be summed up as "we bought every DOTA dev that wasn't making LoL, changed the models juuust enough that we can't get sued and added hats"
Say, wasn't there a certain other game out there that owes its existence to the developers of its predecessor being bought out and then having a copy of said predecessor stuffed with micro-transactions and released as something new?
Some game about Cities (and the Simulation thereof?)
Everything I've seen of DOTA2 makes it look like it can be summed up as "we bought every DOTA dev that wasn't making LoL, changed the models juuust enough that we can't get sued and added hats"
Say, wasn't there a certain other game out there that owes its existence to the developers of its predecessor being bought out and then having a copy of said predecessor stuffed with micro-transactions and released as something new?
Some game about Cities (and the Simulation thereof?)
I'm not much of a MOBA fan, but I've played a decent amount of both because friends do.Aeshi said:
Several days worth of each. Here's what I've noticed "better" about Dota.
-You have every champion from the start, no purchasing required.
-You can mix and match items to make your champions visually unique rather than just buying complete skins.
-The items have a chance to drop at the end of a match, or you can be a total scrub and buy them.
-Doesn't use a shitty client to run the game, less lag spikes and crashes as a result.
-Much more "polished" in every aspect, the animations are smoother, better graphics, etc.
-Arguably more balanced.
-Less rigid meta.
But "fun" is subjective.
Both have the possibility to be fun, both have different ways of achieving the same general thing. Both have positively putrid communities. Do what you want, but I'd urge you to at least try Dota 2 out at some point. Oh, and stay away from HoN.